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So who do we want/expect/hope?

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The head of the LMA was just on sky sports talking about press bullshit. He said the press had Villas-Boas as a front runner for the liverpool job but he had spoken to him at some golf day yesterday and he had had ZERO contact from Liverpool.
Honest to fuck it drives you mental.
I reckon we have only had one manager on the list (Martinez) and have not announced him until we have out dof.
Not sure about Martinez being the only target, but he us the only one that we know is possibly going to be approached, and that was only because that old bugger Whelan wanted to try and spike it.
It strikes me that there are all sorts of people turning it down who have not even been offered it.
Like idiots people keep falling for the press speculation, don't let anything get in the way if a good lie.
The Club then become an embarrassment with all these alleged managers turning us down.
The only one I have heard other than Martinez that has any source is LVG.
 
Someone else may have this info, haven't time to catch up on the thread, but still, I'll tell you anyway.

My mate's text me last night & said Rafa has been approached & sounded out about working in a structure under Van Gaal. No more than that though.

Now I didn't wanna post this till I knew where it came from & just spoke to my mate's cousin, he's good friends with a player at the club & has a place very close to him, we've spoken at length about it before & I know they are close. He confirmed this came straight from the player, so this isn't the usual Chinese whispers bullshit, it's as close to the horse's mouth as you get.
Anyone want to buy a,season ticket ? 🙁

It's bollocks anyway, it has to be. Rafa has difficulty working with Rafa, it would be an unmitigated disaster if he came back as manager, but working under a DOF is unthinkable

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Someone else may have this info, haven't time to catch up on the thread, but still, I'll tell you anyway.

My mate's text me last night & said Rafa has been approached & sounded out about working in a structure under Van Gaal. No more than that though.

Now I didn't wanna post this till I knew where it came from & just spoke to my mate's cousin, he's good friends with a player at the club & has a place very close to him, we've spoken at length about it before & I know they are close. He confirmed this came straight from the player, so this isn't the usual Chinese whispers bullshit, it's as close to the horse's mouth as you get.
I cant in any way shape or form seeing that go wrong. Both Rafa and Louis are easy going chaps who love handing over control to someone else. Its a match made in heaven.
LETS DO THIS!
 
Someone else may have this info, haven't time to catch up on the thread, but still, I'll tell you anyway.

My mate's text me last night & said Rafa has been approached & sounded out about working in a structure under Van Gaal. No more than that though.

Now I didn't wanna post this till I knew where it came from & just spoke to my mate's cousin, he's good friends with a player at the club & has a place very close to him, we've spoken at length about it before & I know they are close. He confirmed this came straight from the player, so this isn't the usual Chinese whispers bullshit, it's as close to the horse's mouth as you get.


Rafa and Van Gaal? Sounds like a recipe for thermonuclear war. Purslow v Rafa to the factor of a gazillion. Both are obsessive megalomaniacs. How could it ever work?
 
Someone else may have this info, haven't time to catch up on the thread, but still, I'll tell you anyway.

My mate's text me last night & said Rafa has been approached & sounded out about working in a structure under Van Gaal. No more than that though.

Now I didn't wanna post this till I knew where it came from & just spoke to my mate's cousin, he's good friends with a player at the club & has a place very close to him, we've spoken at length about it before & I know they are close. He confirmed this came straight from the player, so this isn't the usual Chinese whispers bullshit, it's as close to the horse's mouth as you get.
Thanx FF5. Not sure what to make of it but both are combustible characters and for the life of me can't see it happening.

Considering how Rafa feels about the club, he may be willing to work within a structure/framework to make a return.
 
Rafa is a little older and wiser and may acknowledge the fact that, whilst he brought many great players to the club, he also bought a lot of dross that were also unsuited to the roles given to them in the team. He may well welcome the chance to work with a DoF who he respects and trusts to get the players needed for the team.
 
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Not convinced. Clearly has a bald man growing out of his shoulder, and who is there to balance out baldy's opinions? Oh, more bald men.
 
Anyone want to buy a,season ticket ? 🙁

It's bollocks anyway, it has to be. Rafa has difficulty working with Rafa, it would be an unmitigated disaster if he came back as manager, but working under a DOF is unthinkable

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'regards' sounded better than this HTC bullshit.
 
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Rafa working with someone else? Last time he was here he wanted control over the whole club.

Recipe for success..
 
Sky news reporting Martinez will be meeting our owners within 36 hours.
So weve spent a week being knocked back 🙂

And now we are back to the first target.
 
Based on what?

He ticks a lot of the boxes for me. It looks like we're not going to be able to give the job to one of the 'finished articles', so personally i think we should be looking at someone who given the chance can make that step up.


He's a very talented young manager (38).
Has the potential to get better.
3 years experience in the Premier league

Now look what he's done at Wigan:

Kept them in the PL
He's reduced the average age of the side.
They play an attacking style of football.
He's done this over the last 3 seasons whilst spending roughly £23mil and recouping around £33mil from player sales.

They finished 9 points behind us last season, and i suspect that Downing probably cost more than the Wigan Athletic first team. Of course it's a gamble, but i'd like to see what he could do given the chance to work with much better players and the vastly increased resources that comes with being the manager of LFC.
 
His record is 09/10-15th with 43points,10/11-16th 42points,11/12-15th 42 points so I'm not sure where I see this progression.
He also spunked 7 million on Boselli last season who is fucking dross.
I'd rather have Rodgers or Lambert.
 
Think a bigger picture, including the wages, revenues cup runs etc (vs. that of other teams and growth of league) should be taken into consideration too.

Declining attendances have negatively affected gate and match-day revenues (shocking!). From 2007-08 to 2010-11, average attendance fell by 11.8% (-2,234) and total revenue fell by 6.3% (-£277k). You would expect revenue and attendance to have a relatively 1%-to-1% relationship, so what explains the resilience of match revenues? The answer lies in the number of matches played:

Success in cup competitions creates more home matches and progress into later rounds increases the potential rewards per match as attendances swell. Wigan has done well for itself in this category, steadily growing its cup appearances since 2006-07 when only 2 cup fixtures were played. 2008-09 saw a run to the 4th round of the Carling Cup, 2009-10 the 5th round of the FA Cup, and finally 2010-11 where good performance in the FA Cup and an appearance in the semifinal of the League Cup saw 7 cup matches played. So an 18% increase in matches played (up by 4 to 26) reduced the impact of slumping average attendances to a 6% drop in match revenues.


Wages more than doubled in 2005-06 due to new signings and promotion triggered contract increases for existing players. Salaries continued growing in the following seasons, at times faster than revenue but eventually leveling off beginning in 2009-10. The wage to revenue ratio peaked at a ‘suicidal’ 91.6% in the 2006-07 season and has since dropped off to a ‘more manageable but still inadvisable’ 70.7% for 2010-11. As a side note, the oft cited wage-revenue ratio ignores employment costs such as Social Security tax, if these ‘extras’ are included the employee expenditure picture looks much unhealthier.

Wigan has been consistently expanding its staff, since 2005 employee count has risen by 36 to 95 in 2010-11. Growth in playing and coaching staff has accounted for much of the increase, with the addition of 30 players and coaches almost doubling the category for the period. Much of this growth came in the 2010-11 season as the club hired 18 staff members. Administrative staff members have also increased with 7 employees added over the period.

More interestingly Wigan’s Academy, The Centre of Excellence, has cut staff from a high of 8 coaches to 5 in the most recent year. Whether this signals a reduced emphasis on youth development or a necessity of cost cutting is difficult to say. When Youth Team Manager Dave Watson was appointed in April 2008 staff expanded to 8 coaches but was subsequently cut back to 5 in 2010-11. In November 2011, Watson moved to Newcastle and John Doolan was appointed as replacement.

The 2005-06 promotion season was the only profitable season due to the large bump in revenues from joining the top flight. Net Losses peaked in 2007-08 at -£11.2m as higher costs driven primarily by the 3m hiring fee of Steve Bruce from Birmingham sent the yearly loss to a record. Spiking interest rates on outstanding bank debt also increased financing costs for the year. Since then losses have been reduced but still ever present.


Since 2004-05 the Latics have spent £100.4m on incoming players, while taking in £64.4m from outgoing players for a net spend of £36m. Net transfer spending has averaged £6m per year and 20.8% of revenue between 2005-06 and 2010-11.
 
BREAKING NEWS

Wigan chairman Dave Whelan confirms that Roberto Martinez is in America to talk to the Liverpool owners over their vacant managers position. Speaking exclusively to BBC Sport he said: "Roberto is in Miami today and you can only assume what he's gone there for [to talk to the Liverpool owners]. I'd expect to hear back from him in the next 48 hours or so."
 
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