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Post Match PSG and we are out. Post match thread.

If I remember correctly the squad players couldn't beat Plymouth.
We all know he got it wrong that day, it happens. There should have been a bit more of a mix of first teamers and squad players, it was no surprise they played like a bunch of unfit strangers, because that's exactly what they essentially were.
 
We all know he got it wrong that day, it happens. There should have been a bit more of a mix of first teamers and squad players, it was no surprise they played like a bunch of unfit strangers, because that's exactly what they essentially were.

Did he though? It was sandwiched in between games and with injuries to Gomez and Jones it ended up like that.

I think we would have been worse off if he had fielded more first teamers that day, in the long run.
 
Crazier idea.

I’d love if the teams are level after 90 mins you take a player from each side off every 3 mins until a winner is scored.

Would bring a whole level of tactics and entertainment with the winner actually having to go and score.

Imagine 6v6 after 15 mins🤣
Imagine the injuries from that approach
 
I think Slot is getting too much blame. Even in 4-3-3, the team was 10x better than last week and we really had the upper hand for most of the regular time. They were lucky to get the goal and had a good spell right after that. The team worked their socks off and I think in the end we were just unlucky that so many shots were blocked and Donaruma was able to get finger tips to a bunch of crosses just before reaching the target.

And, how do we know that Slot had no "penalty plan". Granted the plan did not work, but that does not mean it did not exist.
 
I don't think a big rebuild should come after winning the PL (maybe LC) and looking like one of the best 3-4 teams in Europe ! It is a time to strengthen a few areas of concern to enable us to go again next season.

I doubt Salah and VvD want to be here to watch yet another rebuild. In ther twilight years abut still near the top of their games, they want to be challenging and winning trophies and this team/squad has it in it and could be even better next year with new FBs, an extra high quality MFer and replacements for Jota and Nunex.

I agree, my point was more, if Virgil & Mo leave, along with Trent, do we also proceed with replacing Robbo, Endo and Nunez with decisions on Allison, Jota, Konate & Diaz to be taken as well.

I mean at one end of the scale, there’s effectively total rebuilds of the defence & forward line and the other end of the scale is a new LB and No 9.

The latter is my preference, obviously.
 
I agree, my point was more, if Virgil & Mo leave, along with Trent, do we also proceed with replacing Robbo, Endo and Nunez with decisions on Allison, Jota, Konate & Diaz to be taken as well.

I mean at one end of the scale, there’s effectively total rebuilds of the defence & forward line and the other end of the scale is a new LB and No 9.

The latter is my preference, obviously.
New LB, No. 9, and we need a more physical midfielder as well - we need 7 ready to go. Also think the forward line needs a real change.
 
New LB, No. 9, and we need a more physical midfielder as well - we need 7 ready to go. Also think the forward line needs a real change.

I never understand this “we need a more physical midfielder” stuff - we’re primarily a possession based team, so what we need is someone technically good that can pass and retain possession that doesn’t have the physique of a skinny little winger.

Signing a new No 9 that can link play, score and doesn’t get injured every other week would be a real change.
 
I never understand this “we need a more physical midfielder” stuff - we’re primarily a possession based team, so what we need is someone technically good that can pass and retain possession that doesn’t have the physique of a skinny little winger.

Signing a new No 9 that can link play, score and doesn’t get injured every other week would be a real change.
Right. PSG did not have a big physical midfielder. Neves and Vitinha were very good.
 
My idea of a more physical midfielder is not an Ugarte, the peak definition of what I want is actually someone like a Camavinga - all rounder type with pace and battling instincts.
 
Right. PSG did not have a big physical midfielder. Neves and Vitinha were very good.
I Never said I wanted to copy them, what they played was peak pep ball against us. Also thats just one game, and our mids look very leggy. We need another to allow Grav and Dom to rest.
 
From Neil Mellor's tweets:

80 touches, completed 43 of 47 passes.
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90 touches (top for the team), 60 passes and 11 crosses.
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51 touches, 5 dribbles, 5 duels won
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Denied a goal against PSG by 2 goal saving blocks
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My idea of a more physical midfielder is not an Ugarte, the peak definition of what I want is actually someone like a Camavinga - all rounder type with pace and battling instincts.

CM’s don’t need pace either - it’s the position where pace isn’t important.

Again - don’t mind if they are like a Camavinga as long as the gave the requisite technical ability.
 
CM’s don’t need pace either - it’s the position where pace isn’t important.

Again - don’t mind if they are like a Camavinga as long as the gave the requisite technical ability.
CM's dont need pace ? I would rather have one that does for recovery etc..
 
CM's dont need pace ? I would rather have one that does for recovery etc..

Would you say Gravy has pace? He's not particularly fast.

They can't be a turnstile like latter-day Casemiro but anticipation, intelligence and technique are far more important.
 
Regarding rotation. The top 3 in the Premier league have used 24, 24 and 23 players this season. City with 27 and Chelsea with 29.
 
Sorry, I should have posted in here:

It was bad luck drawing PSG, they're ranked 15th but, clearly, they're better than that. A useless group stage put them there. 4 of the 1/4finalists will probably be from outside the top 8 group which means, despite UEFA's best efforts, it's largely pointless. MAKE IT A KNOCKOUT CUP AGAIN.
Salah's stats are ace but you can't argue, he didn't turn up in this tie. He was shite in both legs. PSG wouldn't look at our team and fancy anyone other than Macca and VVD.
 
Regarding rotation. The top 3 in the Premier league have used 24, 24 and 23 players this season. City with 27 and Chelsea with 29.

I'd be interested to know the distribution of minutes though. The low number of players is more a reflection of injury luck imo.
 
Sorry, I should have posted in here:

It was bad luck drawing PSG, they're ranked 15th but, clearly, they're better than that. A useless group stage put them there. 4 of the 1/4finalists will probably be from outside the top 8 group which means, despite UEFA's best efforts, it's largely pointless. MAKE IT A KNOCKOUT CUP AGAIN.
Salah's stats are ace but you can't argue, he didn't turn up in this tie. He was shite in both legs. PSG wouldn't look at our team and fancy anyone other than Macca and VVD.

We, as the table topping team, should have played the lowest remaining seed after the playoffs or knockouts or whatever they called them. So Club Brugge. Can’t do anything about it, but they should be changing that for next year.
 
CM's dont need pace ? I would rather have one that does for recovery etc..

Recover what??? - are we looking for someone that gives the ball away and gets caught out of position so needs to cover that by running fast.

As DSE said you don’t want someone that’s slower than evolution or turns like a oil tanker (eg Casemiro) - but speed of thought and action are more important than running fast.

Dom is the only midfielder we have known for pace and he’s almost always deployed as the furthest forward were pace is absolutely essential.
 
Recover what??? - are we looking for someone that gives the ball away and gets caught out of position so needs to cover that by running fast.

As DSE said you don’t want someone that’s slower than evolution or turns like a oil tanker (eg Casemiro) - but speed of thought and action are more important than running fast.

Dom is the only midfielder we have known for pace and he’s almost always deployed as the furthest forward were pace is absolutely essential.
SG was very quick, so was Henderson in his early years, the quickest ones we have now is Dom and then a few notches down its Curtis, both Macca and Grav are not that quick to cover ground. In any case its pointless discussing this - we actually desperately needed that other midfielder in the last couple of weeks, you can tell fatigue is hitting current ones right now.
 
I do miss our breaks when we had Mane, Bobby and Salah. Fuck me. Had we had those up front in their prime we would’ve walked that.
I agree... I was in an semi-argument with some twat on newspaper thread waggling on about how the Prem teams aren't "elite" without city... a BS comment but.... in the argument I agreed with you there in your point, our front three was sensational while it lasted, to be fair to the recruitment people they did go looking for pace again with Nunez it's just he is so very very inconsistent.

PSG are good and they just about deserved it, it did help em that our lads were knackered in Extra time whereas they'd rested up nicely before game but it does piss me off considering our dumb ass penalty kick choices... BUT... however good we are right now and (please God) we will be champs, we are not as dangerous as we were in Klopp's pomp ..

I've kinda missed the gung ho nature of it at times as well...

One team who seem to be relying on the simplicity and beauty of raw pace is Crystal Palace... quick technically gifted strikers... a big winner...

PSG did it to us we never did it to them...

We need to seriously be looking at our forward line, I really like ALL of our attackers, even the ridiculous Nunez, but ... they ain't as good as the Bobby + Mane + Mo...

Djota, Excellent but not that rapid and injury prone
Gakpo, quality but ain't that fast hopefully his injuries can fuck off in the near future
Diaz... excellent energy... has a habit of keeping the ball one or two touches too many... doesn't score enough
Nunez... He's clearly mental and can cause havoc... fast but the only consistency he exhibits is missing
Mo... On his day best player in the world... nearly 33 now not as fast as he once was and wants a million a week or whatever...

All of this brain farting doesn't detract that we should have won but we didn't, after last week the crowds faith was smashed up and it maybe filtered down to the team. I was pleased with how we played, we really took it to them but I wish we'd have thunk on some before giving an out of form striker a penalty to take.

Do you think PSG will win it??

IF they play as good against the others as they did against us in the first leg... they have every chance.
 
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