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Hahahaha @ siobhan.

Most Nornirishers have been to Carnlough because its near Larne and thats where you got the Ferry over to 'the mainland'

Its also Close to Ballymena which is like a shite tiny version of Blackpool.
Theres Faaaaar nice places along the North Antrim coast mind you. Or down in County Down.

I went out with an Irish nurse for a while & I used to make her say County Down & Omagh cos I liked the way it sounded.

True story.
 
I don't know why it's perfectly acceptable on here to say you have a good feeling about the appointment, but it's not acceptable to say you don't have any feeling at all about it, or even have a bad feeling about it. None of them are compelling objective judgements. I don't like a few demanding that others adopt the same attitude. It's none of their damned business.
 
Brendan Rodgers’ Tactical Approach Explanation: How will Liverpool adapt to Tiki-Taka Football? Article Edit No. 2

Posted on May 30, 2012
Brendan Rodgers is a man who has an appreciation of footballing perception and culture, regardless of its roots, a man who strives for perfection in the evolution of the game. The strategies of ‘Tiki-Taka’ and ‘totaal-voetbal’ form the basis of Brendan Rodgers’ modus operandi.
For Rodgers the season of 2011/12 will be regarded as the touchstone for 2012/13, this time however, he’ll be upgrading the apparatus of which he conducts his orchestra. In contrast, the season of 2011/12 for Liverpool Football Club was one to forget – a season of ‘comme ci, comme ça’. While Rodgers was masterminding world class performances from a hamper of championship (or adequate premier league) players, Liverpool were staging average performances week in, week out with players of a different calibre. This article aims to reveal the ‘magic’ ingredients that Brendan Rodgers prepared his Swansea class of 2011/12 with.
Rodgers, like Mourinho, is a footballing scholar and to further the similarity also employs strict strategy in his approach to the game. However, that’s where the similarities come to an end (well…and that they were both born on the 26th of January!); each represents alternative ends of the spectrum in footballing theory:
“I like to control games. I like to be responsible for our own destiny. If you are better than your opponent with the ball you have a 79 per cent chance of winning the game…for me it is quite logical. It doesn’t matter how big or small you are, if you don’t have the ball you can’t score.” (Rodgers 2012)
Maintaining possession, working the ball through various channels and quality of goal scoring opportunities (rather than quantity) are apropos of the Tiki-Taka school of football. To achieve the success found implementing Tiki-Taka football, not only are a particular set of players required but a template to enable the ever-flowing movement advocated by Spain, Barça and Swansea:
“My template for everything is organisation. With the ball you have to know the movement patterns, the rotation, the fluidity and positioning of the team. Then there’s our defensive organisation…so if it is not going well we have a default mechanism which makes us hard to beat and we can pass our way into the game again. Rest with the ball. Then we’ll build again.” (Rodgers 2012)
For Liverpool, a new set of fundamentals will need to be put into place; a move away from the over-reliance on direct football that maximises the quantity of goal scoring opportunities rather than quality - a degree of trust will need to be installed in the individual’s know-how and when to shoot or make the decision that the opportunity is only a half chance rather than a sure thing. The approach works on the principles that ‘the whole is greater that then sum of its parts’:
“The strength of us is the team. Leo Messi has made it very difficult for players who think they are good players. He’s a real team player. He is ultimately the best player in the world and may go on to become the best ever. But he’s also a team player…If you have someone like Messi doing it then I’m sure my friend Nathan Dyer can do it. It is an easy sell.” (Rodgers 2012)
The Rodgers strategy

Brendan Rodgers, in early 2012, sketched out his strategy and explained his approach to the game for journalist Duncan White. First, he divided the pitch into eight zones and then plotted his formation. The division of zones is suggestive that each player when in possession should play a particular role, including the goal keeper and two centre backs:
“When we have the football everybody’s a player. The difference with us is that when we have the ball we play with 11 men, other teams play with 10 and a goalkeeper.” (Rodgers 2012)
The formation moves away from the given 4-4-2, 4-3-3, 4-5-1 etc way of thinking and towards a concept of zones within the playing field.

Zone 1 - ‘the sweeper goalkeeper’ – This specialised zone is expected to take charge of a much larger zone in Tiki-Taka football compared to the more direct approach. The emphasis is on the goalkeeper to play with the ball at his feet and play far more short threaded passes than usual. Characteristics in this role include: good stature, efficiency with balls in the air, bravery, agility and willingness to play on the deck without fear – the keeper is expected to act as a pressure relief for under pressure team mates. Given that Liverpool’s Reina received his education at Barcelona’s La Masia it will come as a natural for Reina to play the required role in zone 1.
Zone 2 - the ‘líbero’ – The players in zone 2 are (like the goalkeeper) expected to play a much larger role in ‘keep-ball’. They are too expected to act as pressure relief to a compact midfield as a way-out option. The two centre backs are expected to compliment one another: one technically brilliant and one with a powerful physical presence (see: Puyol-Pique). The more technical of the two is to act as a playmaker for changing the pace of the game – Ashley Williams made more long ball attempts than any other outfield player during 2011/12, mostly fast yet grounded balls played forward to feet. As a ‘líbero’ you have the whole picture in front of you – you are in a position to say pim let’s go this way, pim let’s go that way.
Zone 3 - the ‘volante de salida’ – This player must be particular good at playing his way out of trouble and yet still excellent at winning the ball back. Typical characteristics are the ability to read the game, act as an outlet for under-pressure team mates consistently and continually pass the ball within pressure:
“I get the ball, I pass, I get the ball, I pass, I get the ball, I pass.” (Xavier Hernandez 2011)
Xavi’s hypnotic approach to the game summarises the mindset for the player in this particular zone and like Leon Britton should boast a remarkably high pass completion rate – a 93.3% pass rate was widely acknowledged in January 2012.
Zone 4 - the wing backs – the players in this zone will need to be prepared to work particularly hard up and down the wing; both defensively and in more advanced positions. It is important to note that crosses will now be made from the by-line rather than from deep – within zone G (8). Liverpool currently boasts a number of players who can fulfil this role – Johnson, Kelly, Enrique.
Zone 5 - the box to box creative midfielders – flair, the ability to change the pace of the game within a second, the decision of when to do so and an all round technical ability are required to fulfil the roles in zone 5. Zone 5 players are expected to continually find space amongst the ‘traffic’ and complete the triangles in possession. The players should not constantly look to create the spectacular but are expected to simply knit the possession and keep the ball more often than not. Steven Gerrard is one player who may have to adapt to fit within this role and play keep ball rather than looking to create often – however will no doubt still act as a catalyst to change the game.
Zone 6 - the inside forwards – Messi, Alexis Sanchez, Sinclair, Dyer et al. all represent the highly creative, technically gifted and unpredictable player expected to fulfil the requirements of this zone. Luis Suarez is one player who could walk into the Barcelona model and will no doubt provide Liverpool with much of the answers in this zone.
Zone 7 - the linking target man – This player is expected to be technically gifted when assessing his first touch, link up play and off ball movement. Carroll may well represent a target man, whether or not he adapts to act as a target man in this model is a question yet to be asked of him. While Carroll possesses world class arial ability, questions may be asked of his ability on the deck as well as his off ball movement. However, towards the end of the 2011/2012 season Carroll showed glimpses of being an extremely hardworking forward and may well find much success in this role. Anyone lucky enough to watch Fabio Borini will know that he was a huge loss to Swansea this past year, despite the success of Danny Graham.
Zone G (8) - the goal scoring opportunity and assist zone – this zone is vastly important zone to understand. The quality of chances cannot be stressed enough. Liverpool has, over the past five years, been noted for creating chance after chance without scoring. The players who break into this zone should be extremely good at making the decision as to whether a goal scoring opportunity is available or to turn back and play the ball back into the organism of Tiki-Taka. Barcelona however, highlighted the danger in over relying on this concept as their play became slower and more predictable as the game went on against Chelsea in the Champions League 2011/12. For situations like this, just maybe Steven Gerrard will recreate the brilliance he showed against Olympiakos (2004) and West Ham (2006). However, a balance between the Tiki-Taka patience and Gerrard’s direct play will be reworked under Rodgers without a doubt. As a general rule, one goal should be scored to every nine shots.
En Assemble - The formation laid out sets about moving forward as a team and defending as a unit too. The team are expected, rather poetically, to move back and forth much like turquoise waves crashing onto shore:
“You win the ball back when there are thirty metres to their goal not eighty” (Guardiola 2009)
Conclusion
Whether or not Rodgers’ methodology is a success at Liverpool is the question. However, the success may come down to the amount of control Rodgers is offered over the whole club structure: from the academy to the first team. Liverpool have kept no secrets in their approach to managers and directors this summer but all roads point to one single conceptual view of football – that of Barcelona and La Masia; the hope of becoming a successful club in perpetuity.
The variable of ‘time’ presents Liverpool with the biggest challenge. Tiki-Taka football simply does not transpire from one single season of transitionary change – just ask A.S. Roma and Luis Enrique of 2011/12. Swansea were already a technically gifted side and good in possession long before Brendan Rodgers, both P.Sousa and R.Martinez provided the club with the foundations. The core of the Swansea side has been with the club for many years; Tiki-Taka has become the club’s tradition.
However, Liverpool needs change – the club needs to move away from the over reliance on two or three individuals and a move away from the many, many wasted chances over the years. Progress and longevity are the goals of Liverpool & Brendan Rodgers and it is this collaboration of ideologies that may well lead Brendan Rodgers and Liverpool back to the glory years of yesteryear, a glimpse of futuristic realistic success.
Liverpool needs to restructure from the ground up and no man is better suited to become Liverpool’s very own P.Guardiola than Brendan Rodgers. Liverpool fans should expect the unexpected. But then again, what’s new here? Liverpool were 3 nil down at the Atatürk Stadium when half time came in 2005.
“…and Milan now, playing football out of this world…” Clive Tyldsley’s voice echoed. The rest…
…tú sabes (you already know)
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...And on the Friday, he cometh and spake of the virtues of the Tiki-Taka, and they all tuggeth their forelocks and falleth to their knees in awe, even thoeth this was the 124th time someone had cometh and cutteth and pasted the same mixture of platitudeth and geekethness designeth to sendeth people to sleep...
 
Where the fuck is Carnlough & how is it pronounced?

Carn-luff?
Carn-loff?
Carn-lowe?
Carn-louke?

Or some completely mental Irish way that makes no sense like Siobhan? (I was 21 before I found out that name wasn't said the way logic tells you it should be).

Also, is Rodgers Catholic or Prod? Not that I give a shit but seen some people saying different things on twitter.

He's Catholic. Played Gaelic football in his younger days.
 
I don't know why it's perfectly acceptable on here to say you have a good feeling about the appointment, but it's not acceptable to say you don't have any feeling at all about it, or even have a bad feeling about it. None of them are compelling objective judgements. I don't like a few demanding that others adopt the same attitude. It's none of their damned business.

Great post, should be a sticky on the forum
 
Interesting read .. however I don't see a major transition in approach to the game in that for us. Many games this season just past we dominated with Tiki-Taka and we have players very capable in keeping possession and playing the ball around. 2 or 3 additions and a slight change in tactics could see us implement a Swansea/Barca style game, on just what level remains to be seen.
 
He also looks like a bit of a rockhard bastard who the players might think twice about slacking off for. Rather than a kindly old uncle.

I always find in life its best not to cross blokes who had a kid before the age of 13. They are normally not against smashing a beer bottle across your teeth.

Best Rodgers post thus far!
 
...And on the Friday, he cometh and spake of the virtues of the Tiki-Taka, and they all tuggeth their forelocks and falleth to their knees in awe, even thoeth this was the 124th time someone had cometh and cutteth and pasted the same mixture of platitudeth and geekethness designeth to sendeth people to sleep...[/quote]

......and they drew a nice picture too!
 
Great post, should be a sticky on the forum

I agree, though to be fair, no one has really said you can't be entitled to feel meh or unhappy about it. It's when people start repeating stuff that it gets annoying, especially when there's no basis for it - yet.

There's no basis for anything yet, other than feeling apprehensive, like we would about most managers that get appointed, there's always an element of risk. This is a bit more of the unknown that could literally go either way quite feasibly, but anyway, for now, he needs backing. Let's just see how things go.
 
Wait for it, breaking news on SSN...............
there is a snag in t the Rodgers to Liverpool deal.
Liverpool are stalling on the level of compensation paid to Swansea.

So they are negotiating then 🙄
 
Oh yes they have!

I must have missed it Macca, but people will always argue the toss. I think posters (as per) are going over the top both ways about the owners AND the appointment. They always will, unless we're parading through the streets with the Premiership trophy, or some Arab/Russian/whoever buys us and gives us a billion to spend.
 
It's one of the reasons I wanted him over Martinez. He doesn't look like he'll get dicked around. I reckon Carra would have Martinez in a headlock while Gerrard was giving him a Chinese burn by week 2.

Yeah, Tony Evans said that he thought the first day they'd nick his parking spot.
 
Wait for it, breaking news on SSN...............
there is a snag in t the Rodgers to Liverpool deal.
Liverpool are stalling on the level of compensation paid to Swansea.

So they are negotiating then 🙄

sounds about right. nothings ever straightforward
 
That should be his weapon on the training-ground. Much like Statham.
 
Swansea defender Alan Tate has spoken of his disappointment at Brendan Rodgers' decision to leave the Welsh club for Liverpool, but insists his coach will be a success at Anfield.

The Northern Irishman has agreed to take over at the Carling Cup winners, and the defender believes it was just a matter of time until their boss was linked with top jobs.

"Once you have a good couple of years, especially with the success we had this year in the Premier League, you expect the manager to be touted for certain jobs," Tate told Sky Sports News

"To be fair, this one that has come up is probably the second biggest club in the country.

"It's one of those things that if it does turn out that he goes there, you can't really blame him to be honest."

The former Manchester United defender hailed Rodgers' tenacity and is certain that the ex-Reading boss' approach will work wonders with the Reds.

Tate continued: "He's a great man-manager, he's a great motivator. To be honest he doesn't settle for second best.

"He'll be one of those people who will walk into Anfield and just be a breath of fresh air to the players and to the whole set-up that's at Liverpool.

"Obviously if he does decide to go we'll be sorry to see him leave, but when he goes into Anfield they'll have a very good manager and I'm sure he'll be successful there."

Swansea’s first-team coach Alan Curtis echoed Tate’s comments, lamenting the loss of Rodgers as a setback for the club.

"He's been fantastic for us and we wish him all the best," he said

"There was always going to be the day when Brendan was lured away by one of the bigger clubs but we were probably hoping it was going to be in 18 months to two years. So to lose him now, if the reports are true, is a huge blow."
 
Binny.. any chance you can bin your avatar m8..

Albeit I agree what it represent, given the amount of posts you make, the site is now littered with mini Sun banners all over the place..

Makes it quite prominent given the colours used.. Indirectly advertising The Lying Rag newspaper if you like

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Be interesting to see what signings BR makes.

Pacy wingers would be a good start
He won't be making the signings..

People needed to understand, he isnt the new manager in the true traditional sense of the word, but more of a 1st team coach.. based on the European, US model.. The sporting and technical director will be making the decisions regarding that.. Moneyball is the word..

The set up will be aimed to get the best value for money in the transfer market, whilst Rodgers job will be to get the best out of them in training and on the pitch..

He will have some recommendations on regards to signings, but not the final say so..

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...And on the Friday, he cometh and spake of the virtues of the Tiki-Taka, and they all tuggeth their forelocks and falleth to their knees in awe, even thoeth this was the 124th time someone had cometh and cutteth and pasted the same mixture of platitudeth and geekethness designeth to sendeth people to sleep...

Laugheth out loudeth. I sayeth unto thee thou shalt not profane the Tiki-Tika holy institution!
 
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