Still going to be shite. And I'd say that the clubs will end up getting less than they ever got before. They all cashed in on the traveling Gers support too remember.
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Still going to be shite. And I'd say that the clubs will end up getting less than they ever got before. They all cashed in on the traveling Gers support too remember.
Is there a chance that more people will take an interest in Scottish football if it's not the same two teams winning it every year?
Not me - Can abide either of the old firm.
Bit of a Jambo - after living in Edinburgh for 10 years.
Hearts probably lost out the most due to Rangers alleged 10 years of fielding illegally registered players.
Names?
Arsenal use some sort of share scheme don't they.
Any top club with a wage cap must be doing something either very clever or underhand to attract top players to their clubs.
I think that's always overstated - I think the revenue lost from 2 home games vs Rangers might not be so great if match day costs (extra police, etc) are factored in to the difference in revenue from any other team.
Add in a better opportunity to win domestic trophies and play in Europe and its not so bleak as Rangers fans (not you specifically doc) would have you believe.
Like I said, Celtic will probably loose most financially.
Edinburgh, Dundee & new firm derbies might take on more importance.
I think fans of other teams might actually start caring again if they believe they have more of a chance.
No-one has been named, but you'd probably look at teams who seem to have spent more on players than you'd think they earn or anybody with Chairmen who might be tempted to get involved in dodgy business practices.
Could be anyone - even us.
Spurs?
They'd be prime candidates, they've got a tight wage structure, & spend a lot on players.
Harry would have nothing to do with any tax evasion though, so maybe not.
They'd be prime candidates, they've got a tight wage structure, & spend a lot on players.
Harry would have nothing to do with any tax evasion though, so maybe not.
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Charles Green has bought the assets of the to be liquidated Rangers FC - so the 140 year old club ceases to exist. THis club can be called "The Real RFC".
Charles Green has formed a new companycalled "The Rangers Football Club" and they will now apply for a license to play football in Scotland. They'll apply to the SPL first and it will require an 8-4 in favour vote by chairmen of SPL clubs for that to happen.
Failing that, the new Rangers... which can be called "Provisional RFC" if you want... can apply to the SFA to enter the Scottish League, probably in Division 3. There is some debate as to whether all the players transfer over to "Provisional RFC" or whether they can simply walk away as free agents if they choose - It'll pretty much be down to what division they play in.
Walter Smith's bid... to form what we could affectionally call "Continuity RFC" can now only happen if "Proviosional RFC" sell them the assets they now own.
Regardless the new Rangers, cannot play in Europe for at least 3 seasons, as they have to produce 3 years worth of accounts first (which probably means 4 seasons out in reality).
There is also the matter of the punishment for brinding the game in to disrepute that Rangers. This is where received a one year transfer ban for and went to court to get it over-turned on the basis of the Appeals Panel weren't able to oppose that punishment. The Court upheld that appeal, but also upheld the fact that Ranger were guilty and sent it back to the SFA Appeals Panel to hand out a punishment available to them - which leaves the option of a fine, suspension from Scottish Football or complete explusion from Scottish Football. A non-league club, Spartans, was fined (a very significant amount based on their turnover) and expelled from the Scottish Cup for the henious crime of not filling in a duplicate date correctly on a player registration form - so given that Ranger were found guilty of bringing the game in to disrepute for withholding Tax & PAYE you would expect that the least they can expect is a fine and suspension from the Scottish Cup.
The new Rangers is insisting that all the history, etc comes with it - so the SFA may well demand that if they want entry to the the game they must take the punishment as well.
Whish brings us to the EBT issue, which if Rangers are found quilty of, essentially means they were illegally registering players on dual contracts for probably over a decade (so basically from the start of their 9 in a row title winner onwards) - which genrealy means they should be stripped of all their titles, etc.
The thing that grates most people is that Rangers or their fans have seen fit not to apologise or seem contrite in any way about any of this - whether it being cheating Scottish football by fielding teams of illegally registered players they couldn;t afford to buy or pay without defrauding the tax man of what could now amount to over 100 million quid.
Instead the general attitude from Ranger is mroe along the lines - of we're too big to fail and Scottish football needs them and they shouldn't even be puniched.
What if it was revealed that Manchester United had operating a similar system, defrauding the tax payer and maintaing a squad by illegal payments, which was how they managed to keep their dominance in the domestic game despite the mountain of acquisition debt they had accumulated.
Imagine if when taken to task about it, their reply was "We're the biggest club in the world so you need us in your League or you won't get that TV deal." Astounding levels of arrogance being displayed by Rangers.
Here's another thing to remember - Jelavic... the player Everton signed fomr them in January.... Rangers haven't paid and are now never going to pay the club they signed Jelavic from.. and that's not the only club they've taken players off and not payed them for. (Hearts being another one).
aaaahhhhh.... good to get that off my chest....
Charles Green has formed a new companycalled "The Rangers Football Club" and they will now apply for a license to play football in Scotland. They'll apply to the SPL first and it will require an 8-4 in favour vote by chairmen of SPL clubs for that to happen.
Failing that, the new Rangers... which can be called "Provisional RFC" if you want... can apply to the SFA to enter the Scottish League, probably in Division 3. There is some debate as to whether all the players transfer over to "Provisional RFC" or whether they can simply walk away as free agents if they choose - It'll pretty much be down to what division they play in.
Walter Smith's bid... to form what we could affectionally call "Continuity RFC" can now only happen if "Proviosional RFC" sell them the assets they now own.
Regardless the new Rangers, cannot play in Europe for at least 3 seasons, as they have to produce 3 years worth of accounts first (which probably means 4 seasons out in reality).
There is also the matter of the punishment for brinding the game in to disrepute that Rangers. This is where received a one year transfer ban for and went to court to get it over-turned on the basis of the Appeals Panel weren't able to oppose that punishment. The Court upheld that appeal, but also upheld the fact that Ranger were guilty and sent it back to the SFA Appeals Panel to hand out a punishment available to them - which leaves the option of a fine, suspension from Scottish Football or complete explusion from Scottish Football. A non-league club, Spartans, was fined (a very significant amount based on their turnover) and expelled from the Scottish Cup for the henious crime of not filling in a duplicate date correctly on a player registration form - so given that Ranger were found guilty of bringing the game in to disrepute for withholding Tax & PAYE you would expect that the least they can expect is a fine and suspension from the Scottish Cup.
The new Rangers is insisting that all the history, etc comes with it - so the SFA may well demand that if they want entry to the the game they must take the punishment as well.
Whish brings us to the EBT issue, which if Rangers are found quilty of, essentially means they were illegally registering players on dual contracts for probably over a decade (so basically from the start of their 9 in a row title winner onwards) - which genrealy means they should be stripped of all their titles, etc.
The thing that grates most people is that Rangers or their fans have seen fit not to apologise or seem contrite in any way about any of this - whether it being cheating Scottish football by fielding teams of illegally registered players they couldn;t afford to buy or pay without defrauding the tax man of what could now amount to over 100 million quid.
Instead the general attitude from Ranger is mroe along the lines - of we're too big to fail and Scottish football needs them and they shouldn't even be puniched.
What if it was revealed that Manchester United had operating a similar system, defrauding the tax payer and maintaing a squad by illegal payments, which was how they managed to keep their dominance in the domestic game despite the mountain of acquisition debt they had accumulated.
Imagine if when taken to task about it, their reply was "We're the biggest club in the world so you need us in your League or you won't get that TV deal." Astounding levels of arrogance being displayed by Rangers.
Here's another thing to remember - Jelavic... the player Everton signed fomr them in January.... Rangers haven't paid and are now never going to pay the club they signed Jelavic from.. and that's not the only club they've taken players off and not payed them for. (Hearts being another one).
aaaahhhhh.... good to get that off my chest....
Provisional RFC.
Yeah, that would go down well.
Yeah, that would go down well.
They should go for something more light-hearted to try and drive the bigotry out of the game. I suggest Rescue Rangers
What about Mighty Morphin Power Rangers?
Obliterate Rangers FC would be a good one.
Sponsorship deal's a gift.
I've never seen an Orange Power Ranger
TouchéI dunno, it looks like they're wearing sashes...
I dunno, it looks like they're wearing sashes...
And there isnae any green yins.
I never even noticed that.
I was told Liverpool were one of the worst culprits for double contracts in the Premiership and there's supposedly quite a few. Supposedly a few teams have already settled with the taxman in the last few months.
FFS man, this is a Power Rangers thread, make a joke or something quick before Rosco spots you.
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