Post Match Thread: Southampton v Liverpool

[Dreambeliever]

Yeah, Top 4. Yeah, Klopp is making previously mediocre players into world-beaters. Yeah, we don't need to spend much money in summer. Yeah, Lovren and Sakho are good enough. Yeah, yeah yeah.

I was very nervous as soon as I saw the team-sheet, and the result was everything O feared. Yet more evidence of the scale of the job required and the amount of players we have who do not merit a place in our team. Klopp needs a new GK, a new CB, a new CM, a new AM/ winger and a new striker - he doesn't rate Benteke and Origi isn't very good.

And Klopp selected the wrong team and made the wrong changes too late. He was poor today. We got what we deserved: nothing.

Mignolet (6) great penalty save, but still too many moments of nerves that can infect the rest of the team

Flanagan (4) Captain for the day, but looked sluggish and out of his depth. Clyne should not be moving to LB to accommodate Flanno, as he's a better player on this form.

Lovren (3) just all over the place, he shouldn't be allowed to play at this ground, as he's a fucking liability and his head goes. Rightly subbed, but who knew what disaster would follow?

Sakho (5) very ordinary. I know he's a cult hero and everyone loves how weird he looks and loves his passion. But he's always got a nightmare display in him, and we simply need more cool, calm and composed defending. He was nowhere near Mane for the goals.

Clyne (6) one of our better players, but shouldn't be playing at LB really. We missed Moreno's pace and attacking power

Can (6) overwhelmed like everyone else in the second half and needed support that he didn't get in time, as Southampton took total control with Wanyama running things

Allen (5) missed an easy chance and had another disallowed, but showed very clearly why he shouldn't be starting games; he is too weak physically and is easily overwhelmed. Atrocious second half and should have been hooked earlier

Lallana (6) this was a big improvement in his last display here in the league, and he was busy and creative. Still never looks like scoring though

Coutinho (7) splendid goal yet again, he is adding far more destructive elements to his game and becoming a more effective and dangerous player

Sturridge (7) a marvellous finish, and such quick feet, but like earlier in the week, he seems to have stopped making those runs in behind defences and wants to stroll his way through. Dangerous and our best striker, but not at 100%

Origi (6) lots of movement and eager to work hard, but yet another game in which his obvious lack of genuine scoring ability was apparent. Never remotely looked like getting a goal. Should not be starting games for Liverpool.

Subs:

Skrtel (0) oh dear. Looked a million miles away from being ready to play in this game, and his 45 minutes will go down in LFC history as one of the most calamitously inept defensive displays ever. Gave away a penalty and then spent the rest of the game blundering a round like a man having an epileptic fit in a football pitch. Possibly career-ending.

Klopp (3) wrong team, wrong tactics, wrong subs, wrong time. Dismal.

Is that the same team that were 2-0 up and could easily have been 3/4-0 up at halftime.
The wrong team didn't start we just tired and didn't have the depth to replace like for like. Couple this with a failure to adjust our tactics when we were obviously losing out in the 2nd half is why we lost.

 

[moron]

Is that the same team that were 2-0 up and could easily have been 3/4-0 up at halftime.
The wrong team didn't start we just tired and didn't have the depth to replace like for like. Couple this with a failure to adjust our tactics when we were obviously losing out in the 2nd half is why we lost.

if they were that tired - I think they should have just defended as a unit like they did against united - we could have won the game at least 2-1. But I think part of the problem is that Klopp unlike Rafa - does not have it in him to tell the team to stand back and NOT to press. They don't always need to press the opposition - especially if they are tired and lose the ball and then can't be arsed to get back and defend.

Like you say though - they should have been 3/4 - 0 up at half time, if only they realized the opportunity.

 

[My_Blood_Bleeds_Red]

You misunderstand me - I don't hate you. I don't hate anyone on here. I just think you're really thick, and have a disproportionately inflated ego.

Hope that clears things up.

You're taking things far too seriously on here.

 

[LarryHagman]

This is what happens when you big up ordinary players after a couple of good displays.
Skrtel shouldn't have been on the pitch, Klopp's fault. And Sakho and Lovren are clearly not the world-beaters everyone was saying they were a few days ago. Flanno's not at the races, Can is an hot-and-cold player, like most of the squad is.
Anyone who thinks we don't need major surgery on this squad is fucked in the head.

 

[bkwitche2]

Wow - moyesesque

It is. But he did about 30 of those while at United.

 

[mom]

You spelt embarrassing wrong.

Wrongly.

 

[LeTallecWiz]

It is. But he did about 30 of those while at United.

Only a pity he didn't get a chance for more of 'em ...

 

[cloggypop]

Wrongly.

Wrong

 

[DHSC]

As I mentioned in the match thread, Klopp didnt react to Wanyama coming on. Continuing to play with 2 strikers was suicidal as both of them were disinclined to press Wanyama whenever he had the ball. Wanyama had all the time and space to dictate play from his position infront of Southampton's defence. Would have been better if he replaced one of the strikers and then play Lallana behind the lone striker.

 

[hmmmmm1]

terrible subs from JK

 

[Markeh]

I heard half a discussion on the radio about Klopps criticism of Benteke after missing that chance. Danny Murphy wasn't a fan of whatever happened.

Was he giving Benteke grief on the field or was it a post match interview thing?

 

[manwithnoname]

I heard half a discussion on the radio about Klopps criticism of Benteke after missing that chance. Danny Murphy wasn't a fan of whatever happened.

Was he giving Benteke grief on the field or was it a post match interview thing?

Klopp was going ballistic at Benteke and before that Sturridge, and then laid into Benteke again at the end, on the pitch. Klopp was quite clearly hopping mad, and that attitude was evident in his post-match interviews also.

 

[Markeh]

Klopp was going ballistic at Benteke and before that Sturridge, and then laid into Benteke again at the end, on the pitch. Klopp was quite clearly hopping mad, and that attitude was evident in his post-match interviews also.

I'm glad to hear he was, not sure why Danny Murphy cared at all then if that's what he was referring to.

 

[FMSPWR]

I was watching this in an Amsterdam bar with no commentary.

Can someone please tell me why Skrtel came on 2nd half? Was it because another CB was injured, or just to give him some match time?

 

[cloggypop]

It was because Lovren was on a yellow and looking like he might get sent off

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spor...ws/klopp-reveals-lovren-taken-during-11069159

 

[HC]

I was watching this in an Amsterdam bar with no commentary.

Can someone please tell me why Skrtel came on 2nd half? Was it because another CB was injured, or just to give him some match time?

Klopp said if was due to lovren getting booked in the first half and he didn't think he'd last the second half with the ref responding to the home crowd

 

[Judge Jules]

I'm glad to hear he was, not sure why Danny Murphy cared at all then if that's what he was referring to.

I didn't hear it, but my bet is Zidanny thought bollockings should be delivered behind closed doors, and normally I'd agree. In this case, though, I suspect they already have been and that Klopp is fed up to the back teeth of the lack of a consistent (or arguably any real) response from the player.

 

[Markeh]

I didn't hear it, but my bet is Zidanny thought bollockings should be delivered behind closed doors, and normally I'd agree. In this case, though, I suspect they already have been and that Klopp is fed up to the back teeth of the lack of a consistent (or arguably any real) response from the player.

That's not quite on the same level as Phil Brown delivering his half time bollocking on the pitch in terms of embarrassment. Klopp does seem to lose the plot with players from time to time, not that dissimilar to us fans then.

 

[jexykrodic]

I think outbursts in all arenas will be a feature of Klopp's tenure. As I recall, this part of his character was well known before he arrived.

I don't think we can applaud his over-exuberance on good days but criticize his inability to hold his emotions on bad days.

I'm going to cut him some slack here because I think he will prove to be a talented coach. Indeed I hope some of his fire rubs off on some members of the squad who occasionally let themselves down.

 

[Judge Jules]

Agree with that, but I for one wasn't actually criticising him. In cases where nothing else works, IMO a manager is entitled to go public like this anyway.

 

[moron]

Find it very difficult to get this game out of my head. Like footballing game of trauma. How. And why did it go so wrong ? This is how AC Milan must have felt after the miracle of Istanbul.

 

[jan]

I'm sure they felt much worse

 

[peekay]

Find it very difficult to get this game out of my head. Like footballing game of trauma. How. And why did it go so wrong ? This is how AC Milan must have felt after the miracle of Istanbul.

AC Milan must have felt this Sunday times thousand atleast. I would have potentially given up on watching football for an extended period if we had lost a CL final like that.

 

[manwithnoname]

AC Milan must have felt this Sunday times thousand atleast. I would have potentially given up on watching football for an extended period if we had lost a CL final like that.

Yeah. It must have been about as bad an experience as it is possible to imagine in the course of a normal football match. Although as a Liverpool fan who was at Anfield in 1989, it's something I can empathise with.

Every time it comes on TV I have to turn over.

 

[moron]

Yeah. It must have been about as bad an experience as it is possible to imagine in the course of a normal football match. Although as a Liverpool fan who was at Anfield in 1989, it's something I can empathise with.

Every time it comes on TV I have to turn over.

That was VERY VERY BAD TRAUMA. A whole season down the drain in 90mins.

 

[Judge Jules]

And what a season. We'd been no fewer than nineteen points off the lead at one stage but had clawed it all back to get our noses in front. To have overhauled that gap and then to fall at the final hurdle was utterly, utterly heartbreaking.

 

[nealmac]

And what a season. We'd been no fewer than nineteen points off the lead at one stage but had clawed it all back to get our noses in front. To have overhauled that gap and then to fall at the final hurdle was utterly, utterly heartbreaking.

And to add insult to injury the guy who got the injury time goal that sealed it, ended up signing for us a few years later 😀