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Bonucci was always going to be a non starter I think.
Rudiger has good pedigree and 30m is a great price for a young German international.
Is VVD 40m better? I don't think so.
Sanchez, Jay-zeus and Aguero as a front three is as mouth watering as MSN for barca.
Problem being how do you accomodate KDB? He doesn't fit into a 433 formation for me.
Absolutely. Our transfer committee is a joke if we sign Robertson over Tierney.
Agreed about the 40 mill. But surprised that they didnt look at Manolas who is moving for the same fee and is a better player.
I guess Conte likes the fact that Rudiger also can play right back, and will be suited for that right side in the 3-4-3.
He looks a bit rash and clumsy at times, at least when I've watched Roma. And his passing hasnt been all that great.
Guess 30 mill is a very good fee in todays market.
I haven't seen much of Rudiger really but VvD has continuously been one of the best Central Defenders I've seen in action over the past few seasons.
So I'd very much like us to pay more or less what they want for him - hopefully around £50M at tops.
I'd be amazed if he wasnt quite a bit better than Rudiger actually. If he's not injured that is..
It's hard to figure out what the right price for van Dijk (from our point of view) would actually be. Leaving aside my view that we are in quite a strong position to bargain hard for him, which I know not everyone agrees with, there is a question about how much to pay for someone who is no longer a youth player and has had his injury concerns, but on the other hand Klopp badly wants the guy and we need to do all we reasonably can to ensure Klopp gets his top targets.
Van Dijk is a much better player in my opinion, but as you say not for the fee that we're rumoured to be willing to pay.
50 mill tops.
Agreed and, contrary to mom, I can see us getting him for that sort of figure now if we're willing to be as gnarly with Southampton as they've been with us.
Where RM got it right and Barca's done it wrong - and the latter continues to lose its players from La Masia such Jordi Mboula (Monaco), Eric Garcia (16 yr old apparently going to Man City).
http://www.marca.com/en/football/real-madrid/2017/07/01/5956a456e5fdeada608b45a1.html
[article]Any time a player becomes linked with Real Madrid in recent years, they are invariably only beginning their careers or coming into their peak years. When Florentino Perez returned to the Estadio Santiago Bernabeu in 2009, it was his policy to sign players who still had their best years to offer, and the average age of his purchases has dropped to 23 - three years lower than that of his previous term.
The big-name signings of this second term have been Cristiano Ronaldo - 24 when signed - Kaka (27), Gareth Bale (24), James Rodriguez (23) and Toni Kroos (24). With only the Brazilian exceeding a quarter of a century, the shift in focus is apparent from the first 'Galactico' era, when Zinedine Zidane (29), Luis Figo (27), David Beckham (28) and Ronaldo Nazario (25) were signed.
That first generation delivered just one Champions League success, while this current side already have three under their belts. Furthermore, players have arrived at a reasonable cost and left for sizeable sums; Mesut Ozil, Angel Di Maria and Isco arrived not yet stars and completed their development at the Bernabeu before the former two were sold on for big money.Not only have the signings gotten younger, but Madrid have turned their attention to integrating more of their own young players, too.
Once La Decima was won, there was no immediate pressure to win another Champions League so soon after, so Real could place their trust in young talent.Marco Asensio's signing is a perfect example, having joined Los Blancos at just 19, he looks set for stardom in the years to come having signed from Mallorca and enjoying a year on loan at Espanyol.Vinicius Junior is another whose arrival is sealed, while Theo Hernandez is the next to be trusted in the first-team at 19. All of this before considering their own academy, where Dani Carvajal will provide the evidence that progression from a prospect to a key player is possible.[/article]
http://www.marca.com/en/football/barcelona/2017/07/01/5956c902e5fdea0d4c8b45bc.html
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With the financial tightrope growing ever thinner at the Camp Nou, Barcelona fans could be forgiven for asking a little more of the pay cheques arriving in the stead of their outgoing players. While Real Madrid let Mariano Diaz, a striker who has barely featured for the first-team, go for 8 million euros on Friday, the Blaugrana saw one-time prodigy Cristian Tello leave for half that. Meanwhile, another La Masia prospect in Gerard Deulofeu returns to Catalonia for 12m euros having been allowed to leave for 6m euros, just 12 months after Dani Alves and Sandro Ramirez were moved on for not even a single euro. It's an all too familiar feeling, that Barcelona are unable to negotiate higher fees when selling their players, and it's not exclusive to their cast offs.
Both Alexis Sanchez and Cesc Fabregas cost princely sums to pluck from Udinese and Arsenal, respectively, and yet left after decent first-team spells for amounts that barely broke even. It's true that Claudio Bravo's 20m euro price tag consolidated a good deal for the goalkeeper but the 8m euros received for Marc Bartra and 30m euros for Pedro remain questionable, and few can argue in favour of the 25m euros Thiago Alcantara left for due to a technicality in his contract. Of all these operations, few can be said to have truly turned out in Barcelona's favour and the consequences of a team undervalued and unbalanced may start to become apparent on the pitch sooner rather than later.
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And that Sandro lad who is 3rd on the list is the one who is supposedly moving to Everton (just 1 season after joining Malaga on free transfer).
http://www.marca.com/en/football/real-madrid/2017/07/01/5956a456e5fdeada608b45a1.html
[article]Any time a player becomes linked with Real Madrid in recent years, they are invariably only beginning their careers or coming into their peak years. When Florentino Perez returned to the Estadio Santiago Bernabeu in 2009, it was his policy to sign players who still had their best years to offer, and the average age of his purchases has dropped to 23 - three years lower than that of his previous term.
The big-name signings of this second term have been Cristiano Ronaldo - 24 when signed - Kaka (27), Gareth Bale (24), James Rodriguez (23) and Toni Kroos (24). With only the Brazilian exceeding a quarter of a century, the shift in focus is apparent from the first 'Galactico' era, when Zinedine Zidane (29), Luis Figo (27), David Beckham (28) and Ronaldo Nazario (25) were signed.
That first generation delivered just one Champions League success, while this current side already have three under their belts. Furthermore, players have arrived at a reasonable cost and left for sizeable sums; Mesut Ozil, Angel Di Maria and Isco arrived not yet stars and completed their development at the Bernabeu before the former two were sold on for big money.Not only have the signings gotten younger, but Madrid have turned their attention to integrating more of their own young players, too.
Once La Decima was won, there was no immediate pressure to win another Champions League so soon after, so Real could place their trust in young talent.Marco Asensio's signing is a perfect example, having joined Los Blancos at just 19, he looks set for stardom in the years to come having signed from Mallorca and enjoying a year on loan at Espanyol.Vinicius Junior is another whose arrival is sealed, while Theo Hernandez is the next to be trusted in the first-team at 19. All of this before considering their own academy, where Dani Carvajal will provide the evidence that progression from a prospect to a key player is possible.[/article]
http://www.marca.com/en/football/barcelona/2017/07/01/5956c902e5fdea0d4c8b45bc.html
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With the financial tightrope growing ever thinner at the Camp Nou, Barcelona fans could be forgiven for asking a little more of the pay cheques arriving in the stead of their outgoing players. While Real Madrid let Mariano Diaz, a striker who has barely featured for the first-team, go for 8 million euros on Friday, the Blaugrana saw one-time prodigy Cristian Tello leave for half that. Meanwhile, another La Masia prospect in Gerard Deulofeu returns to Catalonia for 12m euros having been allowed to leave for 6m euros, just 12 months after Dani Alves and Sandro Ramirez were moved on for not even a single euro. It's an all too familiar feeling, that Barcelona are unable to negotiate higher fees when selling their players, and it's not exclusive to their cast offs.
Both Alexis Sanchez and Cesc Fabregas cost princely sums to pluck from Udinese and Arsenal, respectively, and yet left after decent first-team spells for amounts that barely broke even. It's true that Claudio Bravo's 20m euro price tag consolidated a good deal for the goalkeeper but the 8m euros received for Marc Bartra and 30m euros for Pedro remain questionable, and few can argue in favour of the 25m euros Thiago Alcantara left for due to a technicality in his contract. Of all these operations, few can be said to have truly turned out in Barcelona's favour and the consequences of a team undervalued and unbalanced may start to become apparent on the pitch sooner rather than later.
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And that Sandro lad who is 3rd on the list is the one who is supposedly moving to Everton (just 1 season after joining Malaga on free transfer).
Everton have just bagged themselves a bargain in Ramirez from Malaga for just 5m.
They're having a very good window so far.
They're having a very good window so far.
All those transfers ARE the Lukaku money !
Unbelievable deal for them. I've been mentioning him for the past 5 years now. I'd love to have him here.
What is the deal with Lacazette?
He's been talked about for years but somehow despite scoring a million goals in Ligue 1 is only leaving Lyon, no longer a force in French football, at the age of 26 and managed a mere 11 starts for a national side with Giroud as their leading man.
He's been talked about for years but somehow despite scoring a million goals in Ligue 1 is only leaving Lyon, no longer a force in French football, at the age of 26 and managed a mere 11 starts for a national side with Giroud as their leading man.
Probably because he's not the type of striker who can lead the line – the rep on him is that he needs to play in the front 2 to be effective and hardly any teams play with a front 2 any more. Sturridge has a similar problem, BTW.
mahrez to sign for the Arse
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...z-Lyon-Alexandre-Lacazette-Arsene-Wenger-News
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...z-Lyon-Alexandre-Lacazette-Arsene-Wenger-News
I can only assume after his u-turn about only signing for Champions League teams is down to wanting to move to London or Madrid only, like many before him.
We should be, and probably were, interested. However he'll be the main man at Arsenal.
Didn't he promise Aurlas (sp.) that he'd stay for another season if they let him go for a reasonable fee ? Something like that I seem to remember from his comments last Summer.
If they are replacing Sanchez with Lacazette then they arent improving.
The reservation about Lacazette seems to be, as Rurik says, that he cant really play upfront on his own.
Its also a bit weird that more clubs arent interested given the shortage of quality strikers available, that arent insanely overpriced.
The reservation about Lacazette seems to be, as Rurik says, that he cant really play upfront on his own.
Its also a bit weird that more clubs arent interested given the shortage of quality strikers available, that arent insanely overpriced.
Law of diminishing returns. Though Rudiger doesn't seem to be as highly rated on other forums as in here. Promising and potential seem to be the terms most often applied.
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Yep, despite the fact most on here seem to be disparaging about them, I'm genuinely concerned. They're building a very, very good side there.
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