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He’s a fraud. What do you expect when his mum was a lying whore? And look at all this shit it caused.
 
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Man, religion must have hurt you a lot to hate Jesus this much.

Not really. I just don't like how it prays on the weak and vulnerable.

People can believe what they want and it won't impact me. Start throwing it around as a reason for the way people act and I'm not a fan. Good people can be of all faiths, or indeed of zero faith. If you need fear of eternal damnation to be a good person, then you're not a good person. For me anyway

Also, re: this statement. Lotta kids got touched up because of Jesus and a lot of gay lads and lasses had their lives ruined because of him. So to blasé say "religion must have really hurt you" is a bit tone deaf. Think people would very much be allowed to hate him and the people who choose to represent him
 
Not really. I just don't like how it prays on the weak and vulnerable.

People can believe what they want and it won't impact me. Start throwing it around as a reason for the way people act and I'm not a fan. Good people can be of all faiths, or indeed of zero faith. If you need fear of eternal damnation to be a good person, then you're not a good person. For me anyway

Also, re: this statement. Lotta kids got touched up because of Jesus and a lot of gay lads and lasses had their lives ruined because of him. So to blasé say "religion must have really hurt you" is a bit tone deaf. Think people would very much be allowed to hate him and the people who choose to represent him

I beg to differ. They got touched up by paedo priests not Jesus. Don’t get the two mixed up.
 
I dont think it's unrealistic to say Klopp's faith makes him a better man.

Equally, I'm not Muslim but I do think Sadio and Salah are both better players / people because of their faith.

You don't have to believe a religion is true to acknowledge the positive impact it has on some people.
 
I'm not religious at all, but what I have found interesting are Jordan Peterson's lectures on stories from the Bible. He looks at them as metaphors and allegories for broader universal themes, doesn't take them literally dissects the meaning behind them. It's really interesting if you can be arsed, and there are some good messages in there that have been lost, hijacked and manipulated along the way.
 
I'm not religious at all, but what I have found interesting are Jordan Peterson's lectures on stories from the Bible. He looks at them as metaphors and allegories for broader universal themes, doesn't take them literally dissects the meaning behind them. It's really interesting if you can be arsed, and there are some good messages in there that have been lost, hijacked and manipulated along the way.

Your first mistake was listening to Jordan Peterson.
 
I dont think it's unrealistic to say Klopp's faith makes him a better man.

Equally, I'm not Muslim but I do think Sadio and Salah are both better players / people because of their faith.

You don't have to believe a religion is true to acknowledge the positive impact it has on some people.

I've no doubt it helps them to be better men, however to boil it down to "he's a Lutheran so he doesn't do mind games" is a massive fucking stretch, when religion invented mind games
 
There are managers who you wouldn't play mind games with because they are very sure of and about themselves. Jurgen would be a great example. The other point that strikes me is you need to have a subservient media. Most of what passes for mind games is not much more than playground name calling, but the media treat it as deadly serious, but the media also decide on who is 'winning' the mind games. 'Rafa's rant' is a classic example. It was about as far removed from a rant as you could get, delivered quite calmy, and almost no-one could dispute the facts that Benitez put forward. But Rafa's rant it became and all the talk was on how he was cracking up, though not so much when we put four past United later on in the season.
 
Gentlemen, they are called mind games because the objective is not to be a saint or a sinner, or to be loved by the media or the fans.

The objective is to give your team a psychological edge in the game. There is nothing evil or despicable about it. And yes Klopp does play mind games. Why wouldn't he?
 
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