Lemon & Herb Striker
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On Colin Murrays show earlier they did a comparison with Torres and some proper shit strikers and in the last 4 years he has scored less than Carlton Cole and Shane Long.
And in the last 7 years he has a worse goalscoring record than Darren Bent.
He had one and a half amazing seasons for us but that was playing above himself. The other 7 years arent loss of form. Thats simply how good he is......ie - not very.
And in the last 7 years he has a worse goalscoring record than Darren Bent.
He had one and a half amazing seasons for us but that was playing above himself. The other 7 years arent loss of form. Thats simply how good he is......ie - not very.
It isn't as bad as is made out. It isn't gourmet but its better than any other fast food as it can be mildly healthy depending on what you order.
Depends on tastes though, not all restaurants appeal to all and I also think Nandos has more appeal to people who grew up with them in existence. If I were my age now or a bit older when they first opened I might have been sceptical but I was around 16/17 when they did and they were a much better option for a quick lunch than the likes of KFC (which is dog shit), McDonalds etc.
Depends on tastes though, not all restaurants appeal to all and I also think Nandos has more appeal to people who grew up with them in existence. If I were my age now or a bit older when they first opened I might have been sceptical but I was around 16/17 when they did and they were a much better option for a quick lunch than the likes of KFC (which is dog shit), McDonalds etc.
Wash your keyboard.
Jesus, that's such bollocks. You don't become one of the best players in the world by just 'playing above' yourself for a couple of years. Something happened to him to prevent him carrying on at his true level, not the other way round.
And the thighs too.
Agreed and, biased though I certainly am, that something was his departure from LFC.
Actually I think you'll find its rat shit; or at least it was 90% rat meat in the late 70s
Yes, partly, but he might have got over that were it not for the fact the footballing set-up (playing with Stevie G just behind and Xabi Alonso pulling the strings) at LFC was perfect for him in a way in which it's never been at Chavski.
I've heard a lot of people on here over the last few years saying he was permanently crocked (knee(s)) and that was why he's been shite at Chelsea.
But watching him play for them, he still seems to have the same speed, and some of his movement is still great.
It's just that he's become absolutely shit at shooting, and a lot of the time now he passes to team mates around the penalty area when instead he'd always have shot, and likely scored, when he was at Liverpool.
I think it really is all about confidence with him.
But watching him play for them, he still seems to have the same speed, and some of his movement is still great.
It's just that he's become absolutely shit at shooting, and a lot of the time now he passes to team mates around the penalty area when instead he'd always have shot, and likely scored, when he was at Liverpool.
I think it really is all about confidence with him.
Nah it's not the system , it's a mix of his self confidence and fitness - you could tailor any system in the world around and him and I never see him Recovering his top form for us.
I still subscribed to the theory that we sold him intentionally knowing he was crocked , whilst Chelsea had little time to ratify that or test him properly.
That edge he's lost has in turn knocked his confidence , leaving Chelsea with a half crocked , unconfident centre forward.
I still subscribed to the theory that we sold him intentionally knowing he was crocked , whilst Chelsea had little time to ratify that or test him properly.
That edge he's lost has in turn knocked his confidence , leaving Chelsea with a half crocked , unconfident centre forward.
As an addendum , a Chelsea fan I know thinks it's all down to us , apparently some Chelsea fans think hue lfc medical staff mislead Torres on his injury to keep him playing , hence why he went off to am external doctor and fell out with the club , with that being he big issue Torres always brings up but never actually mentions
To me it just seems absolutely fantastical to attribute such a total loss of performance to emotional and psychological factors. The simplest and most sensible explanation by far is that he's suffered a physical loss that he can't compensate for, just like Fowler and Owen before him.
But he's still very quick.. I'd understand it if he had lost his pace the same way as Fowler and especially Owen.
An permanent injury surely can't affect only a player's shooting accuracy without affecting the speed.
This, plus his drop in form after leaving us was instant as well as huge. He had been playing utter sh!te for a season and half while he was still with us, but there were occasional signs that he still had something. At Chelsea that was turned on its head - he kept trying, but failing.
He has lost a load of pace and his problems were already very evident at the last World Cup and continued into the next season with us.
Nah, he's not. He's not Agger slow (still can't quite get over him being outpaced by Soldado - what the fuck), but he's lost enough pace for it to matter.
That said, I do think environment and confidence is playing a big part here. He knows he's on borrowed time at Chelsea and probably has done for a while. Like a lot of people, he probably expected the axe to come a lot sooner than it has done so all of this has dragged on too long for both parties. Strikers need confidence and taking the field each week when you've become a bit of a joke and your manager is only really playing you out of necessity (or in the past because the owner demands it) is hard to take.
As for why it went so horribly wrong for him at Chelsea, I guess it could be any number of things but a big factor (apart from the physical issues) is that Chelsea never adapted their style to get the most out of him. He was a great player but not as versatile as perhaps he needed to be.
He's never going to be the player we enjoyed for a couple of seasons again but with a fresh start in a team that builds their attack around him, he can recover from being the pathetic figure of ridicule he's turned into and be respected again.
I fucking wish I was the bloke who invented it.
I can't think of any other place you see such a broad demographic
I can't think of any other place you see such a broad demographic
Shame on you Oncy!
He was great for 3 years. Our best player for most of that time too.
Which one and a half seasons were you talking about?
Words of a man who hasn't had the butterfly chicken with luso beans and sweet potato mash....
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