Honeymoon over?

[mom]

is it? Or was our real form when we were spanking teams a few weeks ago?
The whole squad seems so far from the races it's untrue. I can understand the odd bad performance on the field, but that's three on the bounce where the whole team has been pretty poor in the league, apart from the start against palace.
Could be tiredness from a new training regime etc, but even that doesn't seem to be the cause. They just look deflated and sloppy.
I can understand Klopp being supportive of the squad and giving them time to grow in confidence etc, but maybe it's time for a rocket.

 

[Oncy]

FSG need to drop about 150m in January. I really cant see them doing it. I think we are in for a horrible 6 months.

Keeper
Centre Back
Centre Mid
Defensive Mid
Centre Forward

Pretty urgent for any of them really.
I dont really mind
Clyne
Moreno
Milner
Henderson
Coutinho
Ibe

But thats about it.
Weve got literally nothing to offer.
Its so disappointing to think of Suarez, Sterling, Mascherano, Alonso, Gerrard etc. All gone and not a single world class player in the side. It really is the most average side we have had.
Even under Roy we had Torres and Gerrard and Carragher and Reina.

 

[hmmmmm1]

as above fsg need to pull thier finger out, otherwise it will get worse.

 

[Hansern]

Its gonna take time. Most of our fans probably wont give the manager that.

 

[LeTallecWiz]

as above fsg need to pull thier finger out, otherwise it will get worse.

They've invested heavily in the last two summers - we've just bought so poorly.

I guess we should take some hope from the fact teams like Leicester, watford etc can challenge in the league. All it takes is to find the right player who can ignite a whole team.

 

[LeTallecWiz]

Its gonna take time. Most of our fans probably wont give the manager that.

I would like to see a premier league title before I die mate ... is 20+ years of time and money not 'enough time' ? I'm tired of it.

 

[Shadey]

Maureen's available

 

[Red Mullet]

I would like to see a premier league title before I die mate ... is 20+ years of time and money not 'enough time' ? I'm tired of it.

Considering where you live, don't say things like this.

 

[LeTallecWiz]

Considering where you live, don't say things like this.

Sadly, the odds are I won't mate ... 🙁

 

[Hansern]

I would like to see a premier league title before I die mate ... is 20+ years of time and money not 'enough time' ? I'm tired of it.

Course not. We won the league in the first season I supported Liverpool. Its been a bloody long time waiting for the next one.

Its more the turning on Klopp, that has already happened. Its insane

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Its gonna take time. Most of our fans probably wont give the manager that.

Of course they will. Don't be daft.

 

[Red Mullet]

Maureen's available

So's Moyes.

 

[Oncy]

I would like to see a premier league title before I die mate ... is 20+ years of time and money not 'enough time' ? I'm tired of it.

Thats the problem. If I was them id say go and fuck yourself to Jurgen.

Firmino, Benteke and Lallana cost about 30m quid EACH.
Almost 100m on thise three fucking wabs.
I really cant even wrap my head round it.
Sakho 20m

We drop 15m PLUS on players year in year out and they very very rarely are any good.

Mahrez cost 300k
Ighalo Free
Vardy 500k

 

[Hansern]

Of course they will. Don't be daft.

Maybe, couple of more defeats and we'll see.
Its gonna take a while before Klopp gets us playing like he wants.

 

[leftpeg]

The honeymoon ended weeks ago. Now he's finding out he's married a dog.

 

[Skullflower]

Most fans won't turn on him unless he buys a load of shite players.

 

[Hansern]

Most fans won't turn on him unless he buys a load of shite players.

No, they'll turn on the new players after a few months if they havent been an instant success instead

 

[manwithnoname]

Its gonna take time. Most of our fans probably wont give the manager that.

I don't agree. Everyone knows that Klopp is a superior manager to Rodgers.

There may be a problem if some fans think that just because Klopp is a better manager that he can turn players like Firmino, Mignolet, Lallana, Lucas, Sakho etc into top quality. The fact is this squad isn't good enough and has too many shit players in it.

It'll be a bigger problem if Klopp (or FSG) actually believe it, and some of the early discontent has been a reaction to happy-clappy fan delusion, which hasn't been helped by Klopp intimating that he doesn't need new players, and Mignolet is great and deserves a new contract, and how wonderful his squad is.

He may be simply motivating them, but some of his team sheets have been totally fucking stupid, which is generating a bit of nervousness.

Fact is, Klopp needs at least 100m to spend, and his first XI next season can't contain Migs, Sakho, Lucas, Lallana, Firmino if we want to win anything

 

[Dirty Sanchez]

It's certainly an interesting way that football in the premier league is evolving:

The blueprint now is to concede possession; invite "better" teams to push forward into two, tightly packed banks of four (or sometimes five) players; trust that their creativity can be stifled and frustrated, and then burst forward with strong, but limited forwards who can bully a goal or two.

Essentially it is the game plan that Mourinho used to stop Liverpool in our title challenging year, and was seen to be so effective that it has become the way that "lesser" sides have realized that they can compete. It's one dimensional and "anti-football" as many have pointed out, but it seems to be pretty effective this season. Many many games are following this pattern and it's making me lose the will to live.

 

[Holle]

If he buys the same dross like Rodgers et al did, then it's over.

He inherited this shower of shit. I'm willing to see where he can go from here, having it his way.

I mean, we gave tossers like Hodgson time and money.

We'll see.

 

[Gary25]

If he buys the same dross like Rodgers et al did, then it's over.

He inherited this shower of shit. I'm willing to see where he can go from here, having it his way.

I mean, we gave tossers like Hodgson time and money.

We'll see.

Hodgson was given time and money??

 

[Holle]

Hodgson was given time and money??

Too much anyway.

 

[gkmacca]

Why on earth would people expect this squad of players to suddenly find brains and heart with a change of manager? It's utterly bizarre. Most of them are thick and cowardly. The season's a write-off in terms of the league, and god knows what might happen in the cups. If by 'honeymoon' you mean the energy levels associated with Klopp's teams, then, yes, after a mere handful of games this bunch of over-indulged dullards are shattered. If it means fan support for Klopp, then you'd damn well hope it's not over, seeing as how Rodgers (unlike Klopp) spent the best part of one season blaming everything on the previous regime and presiding over a side that looked utterly shite in most games, and even he kept getting shows of faith.

 

[manwithnoname]

Why on earth would people expect this squad of players to suddenly find brains and heart with a change of manager? It's utterly bizarre. Most of them are thick and cowardly. The season's a write-off in terms of the league, and god knows what might happen in the cups. If by 'honeymoon' you mean the energy levels associated with Klopp's teams, then, yes, after a mere handful of games this bunch of over-indulged dullards are shattered. If it means fan support for Klopp, then you'd damn well hope it's not over, seeing as how Rodgers (unlike Klopp) spent the best part of one season blaming everything on the previous regime and presiding over a side that looked utterly shite in most games, and even he kept getting shows of faith.

Klopp's a better manager than Rodgers. Yep, agree. But we're 9th at Xmas.

Is that much worse than Rodgers has/ could have managed?

Nope

 

[LeTallecWiz]

Course not. We won the league in the first season I supported Liverpool. Its been a bloody long time waiting for the next one.

Its more the turning on Klopp, that has already happened. Its insane

It's like losing your virginity to Jessica Alba and then getting to 35 without touching another woman.

Please Liverpool, stop the insanity. Restore order to this universe.

 

[My_Blood_Bleeds_Red]

What Klopp didn't tell us all is that he prefers soft rock than hard.

 

[JurgenKlopp]

Of course they will. Don't be daft.

Ditto

 

[gkmacca]

Klopp's a better manager than Rodgers. Yep, agree. But we're 9th at Xmas.

Is that much worse than Rodgers has/ could have managed?

Nope

Again: Rodgers, at the same stage in his first season, was still getting more patience shown in spite of the fact all his teams did was tippy tap around their own area and all he was doing was complaining about his wafer thin squad. So unless you're pining for first year Rodgers, I don't get the comparison.

 

[mom]

I think folk are expecting waaaay too much from Klopp and this squad. We can still do top four in my eyes, but I have no explanation for the dramatic fall from grace over the last few games. The odd dodgy result is one thing, but it's been poor across the squad pretty much for the last few games. We have a good few players who can really turn it on at times, but it's almost as though they're all losing form at the same time. Looks like a mental thing to me. Certainly shouldn't have been lack of confidence after the good run we had. I'm sure the keeping howlers don't help, but I can't see how that would be enough to cause this kind of malaise.

 

[Judge Jules]

They've invested heavily in the last two summers - we've just bought so poorly.

I guess we should take some hope from the fact teams like Leicester, watford etc can challenge in the league. All it takes is to find the right player who can ignite a whole team.

They have certainly invested but they've either saddled the process with a dysfunctional buying structure within the club or got the wrong people in important positions within that structure, or both. Our approach to transfers needs dynorodding.