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Winners and losers under Slot

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Oh dear looks like my reverse jinx has backfired marvelously. The Hungarian superstar has just got injured in a pointless friendly.
Apparently he confirmed he was withdrawn as a precaution, not due to an actual injury.
 
Top 3 winners - which players can easily adapt and grow further under his style of football? (Lallana under Klopp)

- Gakpo - I think he'll become a consistent starter on the left
- Konate - with a more orthodox defensive approach, but also Slot's love of a high line will see him possibly thrive again.
- Szobo - he'll be a superstar next season under the dirty slot

Top 3 players at risk - which players will just inherently struggle with the type of football Slott plays and stick out like a sore thumb (Benteke under Klopp)

- Diaz - I worry that Slot will not enjoy his excess flair and he will either be sold or be a frequently used bench option
- Endo - love the guy, but get a feeling that Slot would prefer deep lying ballers e.g. Macca + Jones / Trent than a defensive destroyer
- Elliot - Klopp was really starting to trust him and he was coming into his own. With a new system, I think a lot of other players will get chances to shine ahead of Elliot


1 Wildcard prediction - about a player who will either be transformed for better or worse (i,e, Firmino changed roles/positions and started to flourish, Sakho being bombed out, etc)

- Jota to be our top scorer next season
Jota top scorer madness!!!
 
Which is fine by me. Apart from our South American players we are getting an easy ride out of the tournaments
 
Having watched the highlights we do look way more exciting, and the passing looks way more accurate. I reckon Danns would have scored a goal or two.
We have got a tonne of players to comeback so we won't probably see the best of Slot's team till late October. I do think we need to sell before we buy, so the like of Nats, Tsimikas, CJ and even Endo would free up space to get better upgrades
 
Having watched the highlights we do look way more exciting, and the passing looks way more accurate. I reckon Danns would have scored a goal or two.
We have got a tonne of players to comeback so we won't probably see the best of Slot's team till late October. I do think we need to sell before we buy, so the like of Nats, Tsimikas, CJ and even Endo would free up space to get better upgrades

Don’t fall off your recent path - selling CJ & Endo would be beyond stupid because it just means we’d need to sign even more players.

We’ll need two DMs if we sell Endo and we’re not getting much for Endo - prepare yourself for what he is - a guy that’s seeing out his contract then leaving on a free.

There’s money available and there’s players who are surplus - Nat, possibly Carvalho, Rhys Williams, Irish Kevin/Jaros, one of the young LB’s or maybe even Tsimikas - there’s enough there for some buying, plus whatever our budget already is.

Big signings wil be a straight in and out - like sell Diaz, but Gordon, sell Nunez, buy Isak, sell VdB, buy a CB, sell Salah buy Nico Williams/Kubo etc.
 
Don’t fall off your recent path - selling CJ & Endo would be beyond stupid because it just means we’d need to sign even more players.

We’ll need two DMs if we sell Endo and we’re not getting much for Endo - prepare yourself for what he is - a guy that’s seeing out his contract then leaving on a free.

There’s money available and there’s players who are surplus - Nat, possibly Carvalho, Rhys Williams, Irish Kevin/Jaros, one of the young LB’s or maybe even Tsimikas - there’s enough there for some buying, plus whatever our budget already is.

Big signings wil be a straight in and out - like sell Diaz, but Gordon, sell Nunez, buy Isak, sell VdB, buy a CB, sell Salah buy Nico Williams/Kubo etc.
Agree with all the above apart from Salah. If he goes we buy two. We buy one regardless
 
Don’t fall off your recent path - selling CJ & Endo would be beyond stupid because it just means we’d need to sign even more players.

We’ll need two DMs if we sell Endo and we’re not getting much for Endo - prepare yourself for what he is - a guy that’s seeing out his contract then leaving on a free.

There’s money available and there’s players who are surplus - Nat, possibly Carvalho, Rhys Williams, Irish Kevin/Jaros, one of the young LB’s or maybe even Tsimikas - there’s enough there for some buying, plus whatever our budget already is.

Big signings wil be a straight in and out - like sell Diaz, but Gordon, sell Nunez, buy Isak, sell VdB, buy a CB, sell Salah buy Nico Williams/Kubo etc.
Its not so much about income but freeing space in the squad. I don't want to sell Fab C, I think he has something.
Let's be honest CJ is always a game away from a 3 month lay off.
We need a better and younger CDM than Endo, and I don't think we can accommodate another CDM + Endo, Morton and Steph. However, if none are sold, keep the MF as is.
Equally at the back, you need to sell robbo or Tsimikas (more likely Tsimikas) to make room if SVB stays.
I see no need to buy FWs we have plenty none are leaving.
The only case where i can see where we could add with out selling is the RW/RM which will allow you to rotate Mo more
 
Its not so much about income but freeing space in the squad. I don't want to sell Fab C, I think he has something.
Let's be honest CJ is always a game away from a 3 month lay off.
We need a better and younger CDM than Endo, and I don't think we can accommodate another CDM + Endo, Morton and Steph. However, if none are sold, keep the MF as is.
Equally at the back, you need to sell robbo or Tsimikas (more likely Tsimikas) to make room if SVB stays.
I see no need to buy FWs we have plenty none are leaving.
The only case where i can see where we could add with out selling is the RW/RM which will allow you to rotate Mo more

I know CJ has had injury problems, but he’s still a very good player, so I disagree there.

We absolutely can accommodate another CDM along with Endo, Morton & Badger - that’s how you challenge in all fronts - one of those need to play every game - Endo can back up in the league, Badger can take cups and both he and Morton can play Multiple positions.

I’m not sure what selling a LB has to do with VdB, who is a right sided defender.

Mo… we can do that one to death - there’s reasons to sell, reasons to keep / I’m fine with whatever.

Carvalho… I’d keep too, probably… but where does he fit in?
 
We absolutely can accommodate another CDM along with Endo, Morton & Badger - that’s how you challenge in all fronts - one of those need to play every game - Endo can back up in the league, Badger can take cups and both he and Morton can play Multiple positions.

I think that's one too many youngsters in midfield.

Unless we get hammered by injuries, someone like Morton, for example, just won't get anywhere near the kind of game time to justify keeping him here. It's bad for player development and it's bad for protecting our investment, i.e. the value of these players.

And if we sign another DM (and keep Endo), we should definitely loan out Badger if there is a good option available to him. He needs some regular football after spending such a long time out.
 
I think that's one too many youngsters in midfield.

Unless we get hammered by injuries, someone like Morton, for example, just won't get anywhere near the kind of game time to justify keeping him here. It's bad for player development and it's bad for protecting our investment, i.e. the value of these players.

And if we sign another DM (and keep Endo), we should definitely loan out Badger if there is a good option available to him. He needs some regular football after spending such a long time out.

OS Players (max. 17)
Alisson
Robbo
Tsimikas
Virgil
Konate
Endo
Mac A
Slobbers
Gravy
Diaz
Gakpo
Jota
Nunez
Mo

HG Players
Irish Kevin or Jaros
Trent
JoGo
VdB
CJ
Morton
Carvalho
Beck

That’s only 20 senior Players - room for 3 more OS or HG players

Still classified as Youths and likely to play:
Harvey
Quansah
Badger
Bradley
Clark
Doak

Other Youth that could play:
Chambers
Danns
Koumas
K Gordon
McConnell

Depends on that last group - but they’re more likely to go out on loan.

So we’re currently looking at about 28 players that you could describe as 1st team ready - given there’s more CL group games, plus no reason why we shouldn’t have a crack at the domestic cups - so that’s a minimum of 48 games and you’d hope we play closer to 60 again.

Long season, we have plenty of players with a track record of getting injured.

I’m tired of hearing “our squads too small”, or “we can’t compete on all fronts”… yes we fucking can, but it means you have a big squad and pressure is on every player to keep their place or perform when they get an opportunity.

I’m also tired of the gurning about “too many injuries” - because it inevitably leads to someone gurning about not buying enough players.

I’m all for adding another 2-3 senior players to that list - albeit one might be a 3rd choice keeper.

I do accept there’s probably a few we can trim through loans, etc - but not much unless we really do want.

Strength… depth… options… numbers!!!

This is the way!!!
 
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I know CJ has had injury problems, but he’s still a very good player, so I disagree there.

We absolutely can accommodate another CDM along with Endo, Morton & Badger - that’s how you challenge in all fronts - one of those need to play every game - Endo can back up in the league, Badger can take cups and both he and Morton can play Multiple positions.

I’m not sure what selling a LB has to do with VdB, who is a right sided defender.

Mo… we can do that one to death - there’s reasons to sell, reasons to keep / I’m fine with whatever.

Carvalho… I’d keep too, probably… but where does he fit in?
I am just telling you what you use to tell me. we play 3 in MF and we have and if you include Steph, Morton and Fab C, 9 in MF, not sure how you squeeze another without selling a couple - which is why I chose Endo and CJ, they are the weakest links. One is old and the other is too frail.
My point was if you want additions make sure those additions are better than ones we have and then sell the ones we have. I am not opposed to signings, just one in, one out.
Regarding SVB, is he takes a position in the team which means we have 9 defenders for 4 positions. As a coach, the first season is to steady the ship and not packing it and destabilising it.
It may be we don't buy at all and then see where we are in the Jan window - we have a squad that can at least challenge for the title (I believe) even with Endo and CJ in it
 
I am just telling you what you use to tell me. we play 3 in MF and we have and if you include Steph, Morton and Fab C, 9 in MF, not sure how you squeeze another without selling a couple - which is why I chose Endo and CJ, they are the weakest links. One is old and the other is too frail.
My point was if you want additions make sure those additions are better than ones we have and then sell the ones we have. I am not opposed to signings, just one in, one out.
Regarding SVB, is he takes a position in the team which means we have 9 defenders for 4 positions. As a coach, the first season is to steady the ship and not packing it and destabilising it.
It may be we don't buy at all and then see where we are in the Jan window - we have a squad that can at least challenge for the title (I believe) even with Endo and CJ in it

9 defenders for 4 positions isn’t a huge amount of overkill - but ok, if we bring in a really good CB, then we sell VdB.

Endo is the experienced backup for DM - it could give a new signing around 23-24 breathing space to settle in. He doesn’t need or demand to play every game.

Badger’s got a worse injury record than CJ, so I wouldn’t go with him as main backup for anything - potentially cracking player if he’d stop… well… cracking every time he sees a football pitch.

Big season for Gravy and Morton should be pushing for his spot.

Big season for Slobbers too - because I fancy it’s a toss up between him and Harvey forvtge more attacking midfielder.

Maybe CJ gets deployed as the deeper midfielder in that DM position where his ability to retain possession and move the ball on, plus height, etc (similar build to Wieffer???) - maybe it’s him and Gravy vying for Mac A understudy.

I dunno - I probably ok if we don’t bring in someone else - but I would also on balance, still like a couple of additions.

Like I said 50-60 games - plenty of game time to go round.
 
OS Players (max. 17)
Alisson
Robbo
Tsimikas
Virgil
Konate
Endo
Mac A
Slobbers
Gravy
Diaz
Gakpo
Jota
Nunez
Mo

HG Players
Irish Kevin or Jaros
Trent
JoGo
VdB
CJ
Morton
Carvalho
Beck

That’s only 20 senior Players - room for 3 more OS or HG players

Still classified as Youths and likely to play:
The Boy
Quansah
Badger
Bradley
Clark
Doak

Other Youth that could play:
Chambers
Danns
Koumas
K Gordon
McConnell

Depends on that last group - but they’re more likely to go out on loan.

So we’re currently looking at about 28 players that you could describe as 1st team ready - given there’s more CL group games, plus no reason why we shouldn’t have a crack at the domestic cups - so that’s a minimum of 48 games and you’d hope we play closer to 60 again.

Long season, we have plenty of players with a track record of getting injured.

I’m tired of hearing “our squads too small”, or “we can’t compete on all fronts”… yes we fucking can, but it means you have a big squad and pressure is on every player to keep their place or perform when they get an opportunity.

I’m also tired of the gurning about “too many injuries” - because it inevitably leads to someone gurning about not buying enough players.

I’m all for adding another 2-3 senior players to that list - albeit one might be a 3rd choice keeper.

I do accept there’s probably a few we can trim through loans, etc - but not much unless we really do want.

Strength… depth… options… numbers!!!

This is the way!!!

Strength, depth etc is fine as long as it's not at the expense of 19-21 year olds who need game time and yet will be restricted to the odd League Cup appearance.
 
Strength, depth etc is fine as long as it's not at the expense of 19-21 year olds who need game time and yet will be restricted to the odd League Cup appearance.

Just as long as you bang that drum when the usual whoppers starting gurning about our squad not being big enough or how they’d prefer us to get beat in the early rounds of cup games.

I’d be up for a couple of high profile loans - Clark, Doak… maybe even Badger - the only under 21’s I’d say guaranteed of playing time are Bradley, Harvey & Quansah.
 
If Bradley plays RB, where do we play Trent? Could Trent play on the right wing? We know he likes to invert but would that work in a Klopp system?
 
OS Players (max. 17)
Alisson
Robbo
Tsimikas
Virgil
Konate
Endo
Mac A
Slobbers
Gravy
Diaz
Gakpo
Jota
Nunez
Mo

HG Players
Irish Kevin or Jaros
Trent
JoGo
VdB
CJ
Morton
Carvalho
Beck

That’s only 20 senior Players - room for 3 more OS or HG players

Still classified as Youths and likely to play:
The Boy
Quansah
Badger
Bradley
Clark
Doak

Other Youth that could play:
Chambers
Danns
Koumas
K Gordon
McConnell

Depends on that last group - but they’re more likely to go out on loan.

So we’re currently looking at about 28 players that you could describe as 1st team ready - given there’s more CL group games, plus no reason why we shouldn’t have a crack at the domestic cups - so that’s a minimum of 48 games and you’d hope we play closer to 60 again.

Long season, we have plenty of players with a track record of getting injured.

I’m tired of hearing “our squads too small”, or “we can’t compete on all fronts”… yes we fucking can, but it means you have a big squad and pressure is on every player to keep their place or perform when they get an opportunity.

I’m also tired of the gurning about “too many injuries” - because it inevitably leads to someone gurning about not buying enough players.

I’m all for adding another 2-3 senior players to that list - albeit one might be a 3rd choice keeper.

I do accept there’s probably a few we can trim through loans, etc - but not much unless we really do want.

Strength… depth… options… numbers!!!

This is the way!!!
Where's Nyoni and how on earth is Robbo 'overseas'?! 😲
 
He's Scottish - their captain in fact
Ahh ok you were going on the literal element of the oceanographic part of the statement. Not many players across Europe are 'overseas' in reality. It's pretty flipping hard to be 'oversea' never mind the plural.

If we are being totally linguistic Bradders is oversea singular
 
Where's Nyoni and how on earth is Robbo 'overseas'?! 😲

Robbo didn’t play in England until he was over 21 - therefore he’s not home grown.

I’m sure you know this.

As encouraging as Nyoni has been, I wouldn’t be overplaying him yet - I don’t expect him to get many minutes outside of cup sub appearances.
 
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