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spider-Neil

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you could argue the holding midfielder is the most important person on the team because we're all over the fucking place without one.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=48384.msg1468031#msg1468031 date=1327173589]
you could argue the holding midfielder is the most important person on the team because we're all over the fucking place without one.
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Is this you admitting you were wrong then?
 
Re: Re: holding midfielder

[quote author=Hansern link=topic=48384.msg1#msg1 date=1327173681]
Lee Cattermole is the answer
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Are you serious?
Really?
 
The annoying thing is, there's a few good propects about (Reges, M'Bia, Sissoko, M'Vila etc) - most of which are available for less than a Downing or Henderson.
 
Re: Re: holding midfielder

[quote author=Modo link=topic=48384.msg1468038#msg1468038 date=1327173771]
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=48384.msg1#msg1 date=1327173681]
Lee Cattermole is the answer
[/quote]
Are you serious?
Really?
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Yes. Because thats who we would buy. I wouldnt want him, but he's the kind of player we'd sign.
 
[quote author=Fascistio link=topic=48384.msg1468034#msg1468034 date=1327173656]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=48384.msg1468031#msg1468031 date=1327173589]
you could argue the holding midfielder is the most important person on the team because we're all over the fucking place without one.
[/quote]

Is this you admitting you were wrong then?
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I would always play a out and out holding midfielder away from home (so my opinion hasn't changed) and at home if an out and out holding midfielder plays I would expect more going forwards.

as for a holding midfielder being the most important person on the team I always thought that alonso was the most important player on the pitch, less so with other holding midfielders but anyone with eyes can see we're fucking shit without one.
 
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=48384.msg1468036#msg1468036 date=1327173681]
Lee Cattermole is the answer
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Yes.

If the question is what's worse than bubonic plague...
 
Re: Re: Re: holding midfielder

[quote author=Hansern link=topic=48384.msg1#msg1 date=1327173968]
[quote author=Modo link=topic=48384.msg1468038#msg1468038 date=1327173771]
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=48384.msg1#msg1 date=1327173681]
Lee Cattermole is the answer
[/quote]
Are you serious?
Really?
[/quote]

Yes. Because thats who we would buy. I wouldnt want him, but he's the kind of player we'd sign.
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Id rather have Momo
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=48384.msg1468181#msg1468181 date=1327181054]
Momo wasn't a holding midfielder.
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Doesn't matter, I'd rather have him instead of Cattermole.

To be honest, my first choice would be Martinez. He can play DM and CM.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=48384.msg1468186#msg1468186 date=1327181391]
Spider - are you for fucking real?
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how do you mean? if you're wondering if I miss lucas, of course I do.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=48384.msg1468031#msg1468031 date=1327173589]
you could argue the holding midfielder is the most important person on the team because we're all over the fucking place without one.
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basically the bottom line of what I'm saying (be it individuals or tactics) with the level of attacking talent we have there is no why on this earth we can afford to have a player in the middle of the park who is going to offer nothing going forwards, our attackers aren't dominant enough to pull up that slack.

AHEM!!!

You of all people who have constantly argued against having a DM are now saying we need a DM?
 
Just to confirm Spide, these are the types of games you say we were being stifled by having Lucas (who offers nothing going forward) in the team.

Bolton 3 - 1 Liverpool

Liverpool 0 - 0 Stoke

Liverpool 1 - 1 Blackburn

Wigan 0 - 0 Liverpool

Fulham 1 - 0 Liverpool

I must say we are much improved since Lucas was moved out of the equasion. Much better now we have all this attacking intent...
 
I really can't grasp te Lucas situation. It all happened so quick. He became brilliant. He was gone. We went shit.

And not a moment to blink in between.

Come back soon please.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=48384.msg1468279#msg1468279 date=1327189643]
Just to confirm Spide, these are the types of games you say we were being stifled by having Lucas (who offers nothing going forward) in the team.

Bolton 3 - 1 Liverpool

Liverpool 0 - 0 Stoke

Liverpool 1 - 1 Blackburn

Wigan 0 - 0 Liverpool

Fulham 1 - 0 Liverpool

I must say we are much improved since Lucas was moved out of the equasion. Much better now we have all this attacking intent...
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not really fair to list away games as I would never have dropped lucas.
the homes games were I would have dropped lucas we'd be no better off so if you want me to say I was wrong about home games I will.
 
Sorry Spidey, I value your opinions but IMO we always need a holding midfielder on the pitch.

As long as we have Agger running up the pitch starting attacks we really need a disciplined midfielder who can cover for him.
 
[quote author=Modo link=topic=48384.msg1468307#msg1468307 date=1327190789]
Sorry Spidey, I value your opinions but IMO we always need a holding midfielder on the pitch.

As long as we have Agger running up the pitch starting attacks we really need a disciplined midfielder who can cover for him.
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I value lucas as a holding midfielder and I'm counting the days to his return but I still think he can contribute going forwards when we are in possession of the ball. anyway his absense has gone a long way to show he is streets ahead of henderson, adam and spearing.

the gaps through the middle of the park with gerrard and adam was nothing short of criminal and if we want to progress in both cup games we need to sort it out even if it means playing agger in front of the back four.
 
Spidey you may think he should contribute more but that is not his job in the system to create. There are 5 other players in front of him that should be more than capable to do this.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=48384.msg1468311#msg1468311 date=1327191345]
Neil I can't even be bothered to talk to you about this.
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there's nothing to talk about, I don't know what the fuck it is people want from me. I miss lucas for home games, other than that I would have played lucas anyway.
 
[quote author=El Pistolero link=topic=48384.msg1468321#msg1468321 date=1327191695]
Spidey you may think he should contribute more but that is not his job in the system to create. There are 5 other players in front of him that should be more than capable to do this.
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I know this but I am reserving the attackers (attackers in name only) for another arguement. I sick that out attackers (apart from one or two) carry zero goal threat.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=48384.msg1468326#msg1468326 date=1327191859]
[quote author=El Pistolero link=topic=48384.msg1468321#msg1468321 date=1327191695]
Spidey you may think he should contribute more but that is not his job in the system to create. There are 5 other players in front of him that should be more than capable to do this.
[/quote]

I know this but I am reserving the attackers (attackers in name only) for another arguement. I sick that out attackers (apart from one or two) carry zero goal threat.
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Bellamy, Gerrard and Suarez should start every game and I wish Maxi could be involved in there as well.
 
[quote author=Modo link=topic=48384.msg1468340#msg1468340 date=1327192518]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=48384.msg1468326#msg1468326 date=1327191859]
[quote author=El Pistolero link=topic=48384.msg1468321#msg1468321 date=1327191695]
Spidey you may think he should contribute more but that is not his job in the system to create. There are 5 other players in front of him that should be more than capable to do this.
[/quote]

I know this but I am reserving the attackers (attackers in name only) for another arguement. I sick that out attackers (apart from one or two) carry zero goal threat.
[/quote]

Bellamy, Gerrard and Suarez should start every game and I wish Maxi could be involved in there as well.
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bellamy can't start every game unfortunately.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=48384.msg1468346#msg1468346 date=1327192751]
[quote author=Modo link=topic=48384.msg1468340#msg1468340 date=1327192518]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=48384.msg1468326#msg1468326 date=1327191859]
[quote author=El Pistolero link=topic=48384.msg1468321#msg1468321 date=1327191695]
Spidey you may think he should contribute more but that is not his job in the system to create. There are 5 other players in front of him that should be more than capable to do this.
[/quote]

I know this but I am reserving the attackers (attackers in name only) for another arguement. I sick that out attackers (apart from one or two) carry zero goal threat.
[/quote]

Bellamy, Gerrard and Suarez should start every game and I wish Maxi could be involved in there as well.
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bellamy can't start every game unfortunately.
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I know and that's sad but we dug this grave and we have to lay in it I suppose. I've lost faith in Carroll and Hendo. Adam turned to shit as soon as Lucas got injured and I never had any faith in Downing to begin with.
Play Shelvey instead Bellamy then.
 
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