I don't think it's viable, regardless.
I don't want to watch Liverpool play Barcelona 8 times a year. I don't care how many corners we take quickly. It would have no meaning.
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I don't think it's viable, regardless.
I don't want to watch Liverpool play Barcelona 8 times a year. I don't care how many corners we take quickly. It would have no meaning.
To elaborate in my point, UEFA, Fifa, the PL etc are obviously going to war over this. No CL, no EPL, no World Cup, and possibly no TV revenue.
The only way this Super League survives is if UEFA / the PL back down. They are only going to back down if financially, the league becomes unsustainable without the ESL clubs.
If Arsenal and Spurs stay with the current set up, then the existing league will still be sustainable from revenue perspective, which means that UEFA and the PL can punish the deserters with impunity.
Hence the need for Arsenal and Spurs. There breakaway must cripple the incumbent immediately, or it will be crushed.
As it is, the failure to persuade Bayern, PSG, Ajax etc is already a critical failure.
The only way this Super League survives is if UEFA / the PL back down. They are only going to back down if financially, the league becomes unsustainable without the ESL clubs.
If Arsenal and Spurs stay with the current set up, then the existing league will still be sustainable from revenue perspective, which means that UEFA and the PL can punish the deserters with impunity.
Hence the need for Arsenal and Spurs. There breakaway must cripple the incumbent immediately, or it will be crushed.
As it is, the failure to persuade Bayern, PSG, Ajax etc is already a critical failure.
This is a way to protect the traditional big clubs from the emergence of more strictly money based clubs. UEFA didn't protect them and this is their reaction. Lets not pretend Liverpool aren't one more bad financial year away from never being able to win another major trophy because they can't afford to spend £100 mil net every year... Thats what this move is about, its saying, "I don't want to lose everything and disappear because Sheik Oilbags decides to buy a club and pump £200 mil in every year indefinitely."
The clubs would never support it but I'd almost just prefer a hard salary cap to what football is currently or they're proposing. I was on the all sport is dead train of thought anyway... so this doesn't ruffle my feathers that much.
The clubs would never support it but I'd almost just prefer a hard salary cap to what football is currently or they're proposing. I was on the all sport is dead train of thought anyway... so this doesn't ruffle my feathers that much.
It's all kind of a lol moment for me.
Why not? As many have said, football has meant so little this season, and in the press release they say every club who signs up gets 3.5bn to play with. 2/3s to the owners and the rest on buying the best players from the team's not in there.
Trickle down economics at its worst.
At least I can support Ajax for now
Why not? As many have said, football has meant so little this season, and in the press release they say every club who signs up gets 3.5bn to play with. 2/3s to the owners and the rest on buying the best players from the team's not in there.
Trickle down economics at its worst.
At least I can support Ajax for now
No. It is global corporations acting with impunity and eliminating competition. In football because you understand that game inside out, you can see it will lead to an inferior shit product that is there for no reason adding no value to anyone's life but the investors.
Well, that's exactly what happened to the economy, and stupid simplistic virtue signals about trickle down economics distracts people enough from what actually happens such that they actually vote for it.
I also imagine broadcasting & image rights play their part. Clubs may feel that they are having to donate too much of income they generate for the PL, to the communal kitty (not that I disagree with that).
However it would make the outlook very bleak for other PL (and FL) clubs not competing in this Euro Super-league. Their income would suffer a drastic reduction. Doomsday scenario for many perhaps.
No, we'd still play in the league, but dump the CL and probably the domestic cups.
How could I miss that ! SCM is to be part of the breakaway and thereby generate the funds required to hire an administrator / tech geek to continue running the forum past Autumn.
I can surely imagine Bayern, Dortmund, PSG etc. joining. Their status and income would be greatly reduced by abstaining.
Hahaha you what ?! It's impossible to imagine fans of any club gravitating to Arsenal or City (both who have joined up anyway) without any local allegiance and with the new ESL in place (clubs aren't disappearing to another galaxy).
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Why do you keep mentioning Arsenal and Spurs when they have already signed up?
The PL is fucked as those six (LFC, CFC, AFC, THFC, MUFC and MCFC) have already signed up. The PL is going to totally devalued and I don't see how those two leagues can run contiguously. Where are clubs going to divert their prime resources? PL or ESL?
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Kin el surely FIFA will stop this.
The PL can kick the 6 out but what happens to the current TV deal which has already been discounted? Fans can say they'll support X and Y club instead, however, you can't just turn your feelings off if it's a club you have been supporting since you can remember.
Every current league is a much poorer league if you remove the ESL members. This league is guaranteeing its members £400m per year.
The likelihood just like we got use to paying £40-£50/month paying to watch the PL, we'll get use to this. I just don't think fans are resilient enough to boycott the ESL
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Interested to see how this plays out - but we are essentially forming the European Soccer version of the NFL. I wonder if the owners think there there is actually no need for the PL and they see this as a standalone league with no PL, FA Cup, EFL Cup, CL/EL etc.
Not a supporter of this to be honest, but at the moment there is definitely too much football and a stand needs to be made against the corrupt leadership at UEFA and FIFA. I don't think this is the right outcome, and i'd hate to see a small private league formed that makes the PL then even more top heavy. We'd never have a 'fair' game against Everton again, for example.
Not a supporter of this to be honest, but at the moment there is definitely too much football and a stand needs to be made against the corrupt leadership at UEFA and FIFA. I don't think this is the right outcome, and i'd hate to see a small private league formed that makes the PL then even more top heavy. We'd never have a 'fair' game against Everton again, for example.
The players are only worried about their salary growth taking a hit once they can no longer bargain with multiple employers. It will get even worse once the reality hits, and the loyal fanbase disappears, football becomes a form of entertainment, and the players are now having to compete with UFC, WWE, IPL, NFL, even HBO and so forth to command the same salary. In terms of entertaining, there ain't no way I'm watching Liverpool Redbirds kick a piece of leather around when Conor McGregor is on the other channel getting his face rearranged by Jake Paul.
UEFA is threatening to ban clubs from playing their domestic league
It was in reply to a query why Arsenal and Spurs were included. My point is that they had to be included for the purpose of leverage.
If the league can survive without the ESL clubs, then the ESL cannot survive in the long run.
FIFA , the FA and Sky can all get to fuck.
This would kill most major leagues wouldnt it ? La Liga without Barca and real ? Lol..
Ditto the prem , Its all well and good suggesting the show goes on but TV money would soon disappear and the league fall on its arse with clubs financially imploding.
Regarding the idea that players and clubs couldn't be eligible for FIFA / UEFA matches that's a sticking point but again , you think any top player not playing for a super League side wouldn't choose that over fucking Burton Albion in the new premier League ?
This has to result in FIFA making some serious changes to the sport.
This would kill most major leagues wouldnt it ? La Liga without Barca and real ? Lol..
Ditto the prem , Its all well and good suggesting the show goes on but TV money would soon disappear and the league fall on its arse with clubs financially imploding.
Regarding the idea that players and clubs couldn't be eligible for FIFA / UEFA matches that's a sticking point but again , you think any top player not playing for a super League side wouldn't choose that over fucking Burton Albion in the new premier League ?
This has to result in FIFA making some serious changes to the sport.
Oh, we do already, don't we?
Eh? The same place it does now ..
A European super league would be so horrendously shite to watch. Playing the same teams, little to no atmosphere in the stadiums and increased match day tickets.
Lets hope its a bargaining strategy to reform the CL or something. Seeing as the top clubs are not to happy with the changes being made from the 24/25 season. If not, football is finished.
I'm very surprised to be waking up to the news that we have shared this on the official site. Awful.
Lets hope its a bargaining strategy to reform the CL or something. Seeing as the top clubs are not to happy with the changes being made from the 24/25 season. If not, football is finished.
I'm very surprised to be waking up to the news that we have shared this on the official site. Awful.
Like it’s not going that way anyway, with or without a super league
Just to be clear, that isn’t the proposal, anywhere. At all.
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