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Dortmund vs Liverpool post-match thread

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Well, I wanted them to give us a baptism by fire and see how our players stand up to it. Instead, they were a bit nervous themselves. I'm not really complaining, but I do want to see us come up against a really great side playing at the top of their level at some point. Beating disjointed United or City doesn't really count.
It's usually the opposition fans who will decry our performance saying the reason we got the result we did was down to their failure / poor performance. Dortmund didn't perform to their expected level because we didn't allow them to. The pressing by both sides was pretty phenomenal last night. I think we shocked them and they will be very nervous about the return fixture now.
 
Very good save. It looked behind him at one stage. I think Coutinho should have scored though.

Coutinho certainly reacted like he's scored before the keeper got a touch to the ball.

Poor finishing from lovren , Origi and that chance cost us an extra goal or two
 
What happened on their goal?
Was Lallana stuck with Hummels because Lovren got sucked towards the ball?

Only watched one replay and couldn't really tell.
 
From someone who was at the game, good to see;

Just a quick side note, when Origi scored, Sturridge was the first player to stand up and applaud the goal. Class.
 
What happened on their goal?
Was Lallana stuck with Hummels because Lovren got sucked towards the ball?

Only watched one replay and couldn't really tell.

From Klopp's answer in one of the interviews I read, it looked like having Lallana defend one of their CBs (in this case Hummels) was his plan. It's plausible, since for the past few games, we've had a short full back defend a tall striker. To be fair, I thought we've defended direct setpieces pretty well lately. We're still missing the trick when dealing with short corners though, as seen yesterday.
 
From Klopp's answer in one of the interviews I read, it looked like having Lallana defend one of their CBs (in this case Hummels) was his plan. It's plausible, since for the past few games, we've had a short full back defend a tall striker. To be fair, I thought we've defended direct setpieces pretty well lately. We're still missing the trick when dealing with short corners though, as seen yesterday.

Now that sounds like a dreadful idea at first glance, could someone tell me why it's not? Do they trip over the midgets or something?
 
From Klopp's answer in one of the interviews I read, it looked like having Lallana defend one of their CBs (in this case Hummels) was his plan. It's plausible, since for the past few games, we've had a short full back defend a tall striker. To be fair, I thought we've defended direct setpieces pretty well lately. We're still missing the trick when dealing with short corners though, as seen yesterday.

I don't think he said Lallana was to mark Hummels. He said that was Lallana's space to defend.
 
It'd have been boarder line retarded for anyone to suggest Lallana , who looks emaciated At best , Mark hummels.

I also took it to mean it was zonal related . Was anyone on the post ? (Regardless of the answer I don't get why some teams don't bother with this ?)
 
From Klopp's answer in one of the interviews I read, it looked like having Lallana defend one of their CBs (in this case Hummels) was his plan. It's plausible, since for the past few games, we've had a short full back defend a tall striker. To be fair, I thought we've defended direct setpieces pretty well lately. We're still missing the trick when dealing with short corners though, as seen yesterday.

Putting a weak, short lad to mark Hummels is a mistake no matter how we look at it though.
 
Just a hypothetical question.
If we were to actual win the Europa League would anybody want to argue that Klopp deserves little credit as it is in essence, Brendan Rodger's team?
 
I don't think he said Lallana was to mark Hummels. He said that was Lallana's space to defend.
Exactly what he said : "“In the second half, a set-piece, and how it is in football that’s a fault of all of us. I decided to have Adam Lallana in this position instead of Divock Origi, sorry for this. "
 
Just a hypothetical question.
If we were to actual win the Europa League would anybody want to argue that Klopp deserves little credit as it is in essence, Brendan Rodger's team?

No, in the same way that the arguments to that effect in 2005 ("it was GH's team" etc.) made no sense. It isn't just the team that counts, it's also what you do with it, as HC says.
 
Just a hypothetical question.
If we were to actual win the Europa League would anybody want to argue that Klopp deserves little credit as it is in essence, Brendan Rodger's team?

If Klopps last game this season is to lift a European trophy with Rodgers team, whos last game last season was a 6-1 trashing by Stoke, I would definately give credit to Klopp.
 
Given Rodgers European record with us even asking posing the question that he would be due some credit is a bit out there.

We proved in 2005 that a relatively shit team and win even the biggest European trophy with a combination of hard work, and excellent tactics and a bit of luck and skill. Klopp winning this trophy would be hugely impressive statement and the credit would all be his.
 
Back to the Lallana / Hummels thing, we noticed while the teams were lined up at the start for the anthem crap that they looked a vastly taller team all round so I guess we were always going to have someone smaller having to mark the likes of Hummels.
 
Back to the Lallana / Hummels thing, we noticed while the teams were lined up at the start for the anthem crap that they looked a vastly taller team all round so I guess we were always going to have someone smaller having to mark the likes of Hummels.

There's a big difference between Adam Lallana marking him, and 6 foot 1 inch Origi
 
I like to be diplomatic but let's be honest Rodgers was just awful in Europe. It's what lost me. He really couldn't make the move up
 
...because, as so often with you, that was a sweeping generalisation which went far beyond the evidence. He was poor in Europe but often a lot better in domestic football.
 
...because, as so often with you, that was a sweeping generalisation which went far beyond the evidence. He was poor in Europe but often a lot better in domestic football.
I think, that despite the season we gave up the league title, there are more evidence of him being tactically inept than tactically adept.
He couldn't even sort out our defence in the 4 years.
 
I think, that despite the season we gave up the league title, there are more evidence of him being tactically inept than tactically adept.
He couldn't even sort out our defence in the 4 years.
Which was the underlying reason we lost the title.. His tactical nouse in setting up a team to defend, just wasn't all that..

Football was great.. Sensational at times, but you where never gong to win a league title conceding 50 goals +.. It is incredibly Nieve for anyone to think so... Our attacking threat papered over the cracks..

So when the attacking threat was all but diminished the following season.. The real problem in Rodgers reign was heavily exposed...
 
Which was the underlying reason we lost the title.. His tactical nouse in setting up a team to defend, just wasn't all that..

Football was great.. Sensational at times, but you where never gong to win a league title conceding 50 goals +.. It is incredibly Nieve for anyone to think so... Our attacking threat papered over the cracks..

So when the attacking threat was all but diminished the following season.. The real problem in Rodgers reign was heavily exposed...
Pretty much.
 
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