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No one is "surprised" we haven't signed anyone in January, the already expected VVD deal aside, because we didn't last year and Klopp has made no noises suggesting he would.

People are just surprised we sold our best player without a replacement/alternative lined up to soften the blow. I don't give a fuck about efforts to bring in Keita, if that were the plan, we should have ensured it was realistic before letting Coutinho go. Now we've sold our best player, got Sturridge off the wage bill and let loads of kids go on loan.

The same people here saying they "don't give a fuck" or that they aren't bothered, are the same ones who brown nose everything we do, the types that were saying clubs don't sell good players in January. Despite the fact we just sold ours and everyone around us has spent to improve.

We just tried to fix one problem and then created another, which is typical of Liverpool these days. Dress it up how you want, it's a risk and potentially a complete fuck up. Same old one step forward and two steps back.

If we drop out the top four at the weekend, the club deserves every criticism it gets, though I'm sure there will still be rose tinted posters on here defending the life out of it. We could finish 8th and they'd still defend it.
But the apparent negligence doesn’t just stop at the Coutinho replacement does it?
Why could we not have addressed the striker problem? Especially since they knew Sturridge would also be exiting the club?
Or another CB? Or GK? Or DM?
We supposedly had the money. Our shortfalls are obvious. There most certainly were players available who would improve us in these positions.
So. Even if Coutinho’s replacement was difficult - it is because he was that good - there are still things we could have done to mitigate the possibility that we lose another key player to injury.
Mark’s right that it’s a risk. It’s one that doesn’t appear worth taking if you ask me.
 
But the apparent negligence doesn’t just stop at the Coutinho replacement does it?
Why could we not have addressed the striker problem? Especially since they knew Sturridge would also be exiting the club?
Or another CB? Or GK? Or DM?
We supposedly had the money. Our shortfalls are obvious. There most certainly were players available who would improve us in these positions.
So. Even if Coutinho’s replacement was difficult - it is because he was that good - there are still things we could have done to mitigate the possibility that we lose another key player to injury.
Mark’s right that it’s a risk. It’s one that doesn’t appear worth taking if you ask me.

Playing Devil's Advocaat though - and I'm not sure I'm entirely on board with this argument - if you believe Klopp that if Coutinho had stayed he would have been so affected by the lack of transfer he would have effectively downed tools; and if you take into account we haven't been able to count on Sturridge at all since lord knows when, what does it really matter if we sell/loan them? If we couldn't rely on either of them for the rest of the season, why not just get rid? If doesn't make a difference to the players available to us, really?
 
Hansen, Mystic, I really don't mean that to sound cuntish. Only WE can put a top manager at the helm and then hinder his progress. I'm not sure how much of this is on Klopp or FSG, but clearly the plan isn't about ambitious investment or the here and now, it's still some moneyball blueprint that isn't being adapted well for close to immediate success. It's about stability (fine) and repeated European qualification, which smacks of profit first and only marginal gain on the pitch.

I've repeatedly talked about striking while the iron is hot and capitalising on positions of strength. We always, without fail, hesitate to do this and it results in more of the same mediocrity and only the occasional near success.

I dont think thats true to be honest. This approach has been Klopps blueprint.

Good read from Goal referring to Honigstein's book;

There are designs on recruiting a top-class goalkeeper, with Roma’s Alisson heading a list of options, while they have surveyed multiple options in midfield and have also circled candidates to enhance central defence and the attack.
This unexcitable, methodical approach is one directed by Klopp. It is a fact that cannot be repeated enough given the ever-expanding number of conspiracy theorists who are convinced the 50-year-old is dying to flip the finger to the club's net spend, but continuously states the opposite to embrace the role of a “puppet” for owners Fenway Sports Group.
Such line of thinking spreads and swells despite the entirety of Klopp’s managerial career providing evidence to the contrary, with the brilliant ' Bring the Noise ' by Raphael Honigstein sketching the German's "eye for the bigger picture" throughout his life.
The narrative also jars with the fact that FSG, who made three attempts to land the former Borussia Dortmund trainer, have sanctioned five of the biggest outlays in the club’s history under him in Van Dijk, Keita, Mohamed Salah, Sadio Mane and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain.

I agree though that we have be even more active than usual this summer, getting the final pieces together and become challengers.
If not the likes of Salah etc could get restless about winning trophies.
 
I know what Klopp intimated, but would Coutinho down tools in a world cup year?

Obviously there's no way for me to know and you'd suspect not. At worst I guess there would be a period of sulking and then a period of re-integration but again, that could have had a detrimental affect on the team.

I don't know. I guess all I'm saying is it might not be as cut and dried as some suggestions.
 
Klopp's transfer waiting game after Coutinho sale is a risky move for Liverpool
Melissa Reddy


Liverpool FC Correspondent
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The Reds are lighter on quality, creativity and final-third production after not bringing in anyone beyond centre-back Virgil van Dijk this month
The words seemed to hang in the air for an age, before dropping with a thud.
“Liverpool may be perfect for a player today, but it doesn’t mean the club will still be their best option tomorrow,” said a representative of one of the biggest sport agencies in Europe during a discussion about Philippe Coutinho.
The Brazil international was happy enough to sign a new five-year deal on Merseyside without a release clause last January, only to depart for Barcelona 12 months on after agitating for an exit in the summer.

“Things move quickly in football and careers can be very short. A player cannot always wait or settle when there are opportunities to move forward,” the intermediary added, pointing out that Liverpool benefitted from a similar situation with Virgil van Dijk. The centre-back had also inked a lucrative long-term extension at Southampton, before becoming the world’s most expensive defender in a £75 million switch to Anfield.
“You have to move fast enough to keep up with the ambitions of your stars,” the agent argued. “It is the reality for all clubs.”
The Merseysiders received the third-highest transfer fee ever for Coutinho, with only Neymar and Kylian Mbappe’s moves to Paris Saint-Germain surpassing Barca’s outlay on the 25-year-old. While the decision to let him go mid-season was decried, most jolting has been Liverpool's disinclination to fortify their attacking cannonry afterwards.
Suggestions that his sale funded the purchases of Van Dijk and Naby Keita, who joins from RB Leipzig on July 1, ignore the actuality that the interest and willingness to make blockbuster bids for the pair long preceded any contact from the Catalan side.
By April 2017, it was apparent that the Netherlands international was top of Klopp’s wanted list alongside the midfield lynchpin, with Goal having revealed their intention to pursue the 22-year-old a month earlier.
La Liga’s leaders only made first contact with the Reds over Coutinho on July 20 last year, prompted by PSG’s activation of Neymar’s release clause.
Liverpool's inactivity - beyond bringing in Van Dijk and failing in an attempt to advance Keita’s first day at Melwood - was not due to balance sheets.

Having been in the conversation for Leon Goretzka, who ultimately opted for his first-choice in Bayern Munich, and with no inclination to yield to Monaco's balloon £90m valuation of Thomas Lemar five months ago or this window, Liverpool decided to prioritise putting in work now to solidify their core long-term.
There are designs on recruiting a top-class goalkeeper, with Roma’s Alisson heading a list of options, while they have surveyed multiple options in midfield and have also circled candidates to enhance central defence and the attack.
This unexcitable, methodical approach is one directed by Klopp. It is a fact that cannot be repeated enough given the ever-expanding number of conspiracy theorists who are convinced the 50-year-old is dying to flip the finger to the club's net spend, but continuously states the opposite to embrace the role of a “puppet” for owners Fenway Sports Group.
Such line of thinking spreads and swells despite the entirety of Klopp’s managerial career providing evidence to the contrary, with the brilliant ' Bring the Noise ' by Raphael Honigstein sketching the German's "eye for the bigger picture" throughout his life.
The narrative also jars with the fact that FSG, who made three attempts to land the former Borussia Dortmund trainer, have sanctioned five of the biggest outlays in the club’s history under him in Van Dijk, Keita, Mohamed Salah, Sadio Mane and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain.

Ignoring the sections prompting fatalism and fiction, however, there is genuine and understandable concern that Liverpool have left themselves light on quality, creativity and final-third production as they compete in the Champions League and look to secure their place in the competition for a consecutive season.
In Coutinho, they ceded a player that contributed 20 goals in as many games in the campaign, assumed responsibility on the pitch, and could conjure mastery when most needed.
His ability to operate in midfield and as a left forward also empowered Klopp’s rotation policy as well as Liverpool’s variability.
Yes, it is difficult to find a player in the same bracket as the Rio-born maestro, but it was not an impossible task to supplement the roster.
While Klopp is enthused by using Adam Lallana in the second half of the term, the England international has started just two games in 2017-18 due to injury struggles and is currently unavailable. He has been a fine, instrumental element in the full-throttle system, but he can’t alleviate the loss of end product.
Captain Jordan Henderson has only just returned from a sideline spell of his own, and along with Gini Wijnaldum and Emre Can, has not been consistent enough. Oxlade-Chamberlain has only recently been unshackled from his Arsenal habits, while James Milner is another option in the centre of the park, but Liverpool ideally shouldn’t be needing to grant the 32-year-old regular starts.
Moving forward, beyond the explosive front three of Mane, Salah and Firmino, there is little magic. Daniel Sturridge was loaned out to West Bromwich Albion, with Dominic Solanke and Danny Ings left as the understudies.

The England Under-20 World Cup winner has no shortage of coaching voices from his past and present that believe he will eventually blow. Right now, though, he has only started four games, is lacking rhythm, and has managed a return of zero goals in 19 appearances.
Ings, who has battled back from two taxing injury setbacks, last featured from the off against Everton in October 2015 when Brendan Rodgers was manager. It was the last time he scored for Liverpool too.
The pair are tireless and possess an abundance of eagerness, but they also need to put the round thing in the rectangular thing.
A loan move wasn’t approved for the gifted Ben Woodburn, but the 18-year-old’s sole appearance this season was in the League Cup defeat at Leicester City.
Liverpool are able to field quite a strong XI, but are quite light beyond that. They have undoubtedly progressed under Klopp, but have they given themselves the best possible opportunity to further underscore that advancement on the continent and domestically?
While it is true that signings do not automatically equate to success, it is hard to form a substantial argument against reinforcing this month especially as the unified recruitment vision, headed by Michael Edwards, has lead to excellent business.

Liverpool have bought very well, but just haven't bought enough.
This is fuelling much of the vexation from supporters, born out of the recent history of the club being just a nip and tuck away from success, before the task is enlarged with premier players moving on to win somewhere else.

See Luis Suarez, Raheem Sterling and Coutinho for the latest examples, while Real Madrid haven’t exactly been sheepish about their interest in Salah, while Juventus are confident of landing Can on a free transfer.
Klopp’s long-term thinking and unswerving belief in the blueprint is commendable, but unfortunately, not everyone will share the manager’s patience.
Liverpool “have to move fast enough to keep up with the ambitions of their stars," or their puzzle for prosperity will always be missing key pieces.
 
Klopp's transfer waiting game after Coutinho sale is a risky move for Liverpool
Melissa Reddy


Liverpool FC Correspondent
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The Reds are lighter on quality, creativity and final-third production after not bringing in anyone beyond centre-back Virgil van Dijk this month
The words seemed to hang in the air for an age, before dropping with a thud.
“Liverpool may be perfect for a player today, but it doesn’t mean the club will still be their best option tomorrow,” said a representative of one of the biggest sport agencies in Europe during a discussion about Philippe Coutinho.
The Brazil international was happy enough to sign a new five-year deal on Merseyside without a release clause last January, only to depart for Barcelona 12 months on after agitating for an exit in the summer.

“Things move quickly in football and careers can be very short. A player cannot always wait or settle when there are opportunities to move forward,” the intermediary added, pointing out that Liverpool benefitted from a similar situation with Virgil van Dijk. The centre-back had also inked a lucrative long-term extension at Southampton, before becoming the world’s most expensive defender in a £75 million switch to Anfield.
“You have to move fast enough to keep up with the ambitions of your stars,” the agent argued. “It is the reality for all clubs.”
The Merseysiders received the third-highest transfer fee ever for Coutinho, with only Neymar and Kylian Mbappe’s moves to Paris Saint-Germain surpassing Barca’s outlay on the 25-year-old. While the decision to let him go mid-season was decried, most jolting has been Liverpool's disinclination to fortify their attacking cannonry afterwards.
Suggestions that his sale funded the purchases of Van Dijk and Naby Keita, who joins from RB Leipzig on July 1, ignore the actuality that the interest and willingness to make blockbuster bids for the pair long preceded any contact from the Catalan side.
By April 2017, it was apparent that the Netherlands international was top of Klopp’s wanted list alongside the midfield lynchpin, with Goal having revealed their intention to pursue the 22-year-old a month earlier.
La Liga’s leaders only made first contact with the Reds over Coutinho on July 20 last year, prompted by PSG’s activation of Neymar’s release clause.
Liverpool's inactivity - beyond bringing in Van Dijk and failing in an attempt to advance Keita’s first day at Melwood - was not due to balance sheets.

Having been in the conversation for Leon Goretzka, who ultimately opted for his first-choice in Bayern Munich, and with no inclination to yield to Monaco's balloon £90m valuation of Thomas Lemar five months ago or this window, Liverpool decided to prioritise putting in work now to solidify their core long-term.
There are designs on recruiting a top-class goalkeeper, with Roma’s Alisson heading a list of options, while they have surveyed multiple options in midfield and have also circled candidates to enhance central defence and the attack.
This unexcitable, methodical approach is one directed by Klopp. It is a fact that cannot be repeated enough given the ever-expanding number of conspiracy theorists who are convinced the 50-year-old is dying to flip the finger to the club's net spend, but continuously states the opposite to embrace the role of a “puppet” for owners Fenway Sports Group.
Such line of thinking spreads and swells despite the entirety of Klopp’s managerial career providing evidence to the contrary, with the brilliant ' Bring the Noise ' by Raphael Honigstein sketching the German's "eye for the bigger picture" throughout his life.
The narrative also jars with the fact that FSG, who made three attempts to land the former Borussia Dortmund trainer, have sanctioned five of the biggest outlays in the club’s history under him in Van Dijk, Keita, Mohamed Salah, Sadio Mane and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain.

Ignoring the sections prompting fatalism and fiction, however, there is genuine and understandable concern that Liverpool have left themselves light on quality, creativity and final-third production as they compete in the Champions League and look to secure their place in the competition for a consecutive season.
In Coutinho, they ceded a player that contributed 20 goals in as many games in the campaign, assumed responsibility on the pitch, and could conjure mastery when most needed.
His ability to operate in midfield and as a left forward also empowered Klopp’s rotation policy as well as Liverpool’s variability.
Yes, it is difficult to find a player in the same bracket as the Rio-born maestro, but it was not an impossible task to supplement the roster.
While Klopp is enthused by using Adam Lallana in the second half of the term, the England international has started just two games in 2017-18 due to injury struggles and is currently unavailable. He has been a fine, instrumental element in the full-throttle system, but he can’t alleviate the loss of end product.
Captain Jordan Henderson has only just returned from a sideline spell of his own, and along with Gini Wijnaldum and Emre Can, has not been consistent enough. Oxlade-Chamberlain has only recently been unshackled from his Arsenal habits, while James Milner is another option in the centre of the park, but Liverpool ideally shouldn’t be needing to grant the 32-year-old regular starts.
Moving forward, beyond the explosive front three of Mane, Salah and Firmino, there is little magic. Daniel Sturridge was loaned out to West Bromwich Albion, with Dominic Solanke and Danny Ings left as the understudies.

The England Under-20 World Cup winner has no shortage of coaching voices from his past and present that believe he will eventually blow. Right now, though, he has only started four games, is lacking rhythm, and has managed a return of zero goals in 19 appearances.
Ings, who has battled back from two taxing injury setbacks, last featured from the off against Everton in October 2015 when Brendan Rodgers was manager. It was the last time he scored for Liverpool too.
The pair are tireless and possess an abundance of eagerness, but they also need to put the round thing in the rectangular thing.
A loan move wasn’t approved for the gifted Ben Woodburn, but the 18-year-old’s sole appearance this season was in the League Cup defeat at Leicester City.
Liverpool are able to field quite a strong XI, but are quite light beyond that. They have undoubtedly progressed under Klopp, but have they given themselves the best possible opportunity to further underscore that advancement on the continent and domestically?
While it is true that signings do not automatically equate to success, it is hard to form a substantial argument against reinforcing this month especially as the unified recruitment vision, headed by Michael Edwards, has lead to excellent business.

Liverpool have bought very well, but just haven't bought enough.
This is fuelling much of the vexation from supporters, born out of the recent history of the club being just a nip and tuck away from success, before the task is enlarged with premier players moving on to win somewhere else.

See Luis Suarez, Raheem Sterling and Coutinho for the latest examples, while Real Madrid haven’t exactly been sheepish about their interest in Salah, while Juventus are confident of landing Can on a free transfer.
Klopp’s long-term thinking and unswerving belief in the blueprint is commendable, but unfortunately, not everyone will share the manager’s patience.
Liverpool “have to move fast enough to keep up with the ambitions of their stars," or their puzzle for prosperity will always be missing key pieces.

So many words when all you want to post is a picture?
 
At least Ings is worthy of his opportunity, you couldn't begrudge him a run in the team.
 
I'd like to see Woodburn get some chances from the bench as he's not going to learn much more from the U23's and can't be worse than some of our substitute options.
 
I dont think thats true to be honest. This approach has been Klopps blueprint.

Good read from Goal referring to Honigstein's book;

There are designs on recruiting a top-class goalkeeper, with Roma’s Alisson heading a list of options, while they have surveyed multiple options in midfield and have also circled candidates to enhance central defence and the attack.
This unexcitable, methodical approach is one directed by Klopp. It is a fact that cannot be repeated enough given the ever-expanding number of conspiracy theorists who are convinced the 50-year-old is dying to flip the finger to the club's net spend, but continuously states the opposite to embrace the role of a “puppet” for owners Fenway Sports Group.
Such line of thinking spreads and swells despite the entirety of Klopp’s managerial career providing evidence to the contrary, with the brilliant ' Bring the Noise ' by Raphael Honigstein sketching the German's "eye for the bigger picture" throughout his life.
The narrative also jars with the fact that FSG, who made three attempts to land the former Borussia Dortmund trainer, have sanctioned five of the biggest outlays in the club’s history under him in Van Dijk, Keita, Mohamed Salah, Sadio Mane and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain.

I agree though that we have be even more active than usual this summer, getting the final pieces together and become challengers.
If not the likes of Salah etc could get restless about winning trophies.

We are the only club in the PL era to have been top of the table at Christmas and fail to win the league. And we did that twice, once under Rafa and other under Brendan.
Both times, we narrowly missed out on winning the league. Both times, we had two managers squeezing every ounce of performance out of a squad. We were running on fumes by March and still motored on. One decent attacking signing on the bench could have helped us push us over the edge. I remember under Brendan, we spent ages negotiating with Salah and Chelsea came and gazumped us.

It is difficult to decide which approach is best until it all plays out. I also recognize that we all dont know what really happened behind the scenes. Posters like you look at it from the positive perspective. Negative people like me look at it as another example of us failing to capitalize when we are in a position of strength. Hopefully this discussion is moot as we celebrate number 6 in May.
 
We are the only club in the PL era to have been top of the table at Christmas and fail to win the league. And we did that twice, once under Rafa and other under Brendan.
Both times, we narrowly missed out on winning the league. Both times, we had two managers squeezing every ounce of performance out of a squad. We were running on fumes by March and still motored on. One decent attacking signing on the bench could have helped us push us over the edge. I remember under Brendan, we spent ages negotiating with Salah and Chelsea came and gazumped us.

It is difficult to decide which approach is best until it all plays out. I also recognize that we all dont know what really happened behind the scenes. Posters like you look at it from the positive perspective. Negative people like me look at it as another example of us failing to capitalize when we are in a position of strength. Hopefully this discussion is moot as we celebrate number 6 in May.

Dont think there is a positive side of this at all mate.
Its more an acceptance of Klopp’s approach, the lack of availability of targets in January and aknowledging the risk.
I wouldnt have sold Coutinho either without a replacement. I doubt anyone would.
 
Waiting for the right player is never going to win us anything, it’s really not. Because as soon as we get him, we’ll have lost others. We’re always 1 or 2 players away from our ideal team, on a rolling basis. It’s been like that for donkey’s years.

To be fair, we’ve got no real chance of winning the League in the current climate, we might come close now and then but that’s it. Can’t really blame Klopp or the players, I think we’re over-achieving as it is. There isn’t more to come from this team, we are over-achieving now. It needs serious investment to get it to the next level, and I can’t see that happening.

We really are where Arsenal have been at for years, except they’ve been smarter in that they at least try in the cup comps so as to give their fans something other than the top 4 trophy every year. It’s kept the wolves from Wenger’s door for years, Klopp is going to be looking at a lot of empty years on his CV if he doesn’t address this.

We’ll sign a couple of players early doors next summer then someone will go to balance the books, and we’ll be left with gaps again. Don’t think for a second that we wouldn’t cash in on Salah. And don’t think for a second that he wouldn’t sprint out the door.
 
Before this window we had 11 less first team players since Klopp came than under BR, as people have left and not been replaced - and maybe we were top heavy. But this window, I can't remember but did we just buy one first teamer? And let Coutinho and Sturridge go? It's just a money making exercise for the lizards.

I reckon John Henry gets up in the morning and doesn't even think about LFC while he swallows live mice for breakfast. Maybe once a week he'll get an email that says that the wage bill is down and we still might get in the CL and he reports it as spam and asks his IT slave if he can remind him what an LFC is.
 
And broken our sale record by nearly double and we still have a £0 net spend. Practically everyone has broken their transfer records this season, the market is that inflated. It means shit when we've just sold our best player for one of the record fees ever paid in world football.
 
Not that it matters but its +30 mill, and we’ve spent 210 mill £ (the Keita deal is also agreed and done).

Doesnt excuse selling Cuntyo in January mind.
 
I'm not really sure thats accurate Mark. If that was the case we wouldnt be spending 75 mill on a CB or 60 mill on Keita.
Will be interesting to see what our net spend is this summer. We wont be selling any of our top players and will probably be quite active in the transfer market.
Didn't Pearce or Joyce just say Klopp will have the largest budget of any LFC manager in history ? I thought it was supposed to be £150m last Summer, that didn't happen. Maybe it's £200m this Summer .... we'll see what the net is come September.
 
The lack of Keita arriving is causing some of the discontent as we are less able to see the fruits of that expenditure. However, I agree that we need to continue to improve areas of the team and given how close 2nd - 6th is, we have taken a gamble by not further recruiting.
 
Not sure why some are claiming we didn't do any business, have they forgotten VvD already ?! Also some feel we are weakened overall as a team, well for me defence was more of a priority so to strengthen the defence at the cost of weakening, what was an impressively powerful attack, is something I can accept.

Yes United bought Sanchez but look at what they are paying him, £600k per week ? Get the fuck outta here ! I hear Pogba's agent was already at the door asking for a wage increase, he won't be the last. Mahrez at £90m ? Even City backed away from that. I would have liked to see us in for Aubameyang though. He would have been an awesome replacement for Sturridge and the fee not ridiculous.

As for Coutinho : £145m and with him threatening not to play for us again if not sold (which is supposedly where we were at) pretty much forced our hand. I hate that we sold him but I'm not prepared to blame Klopp or FSG if those were the circumstances. Others have alternative conspiracy theories. I get that. It's not obviously accurate though.

We needed reinforcements in (by priority) : CM, Striker, Keeper, CB, that we didn't get them suggests to me that either the targets were not available or ridiculously overpriced. It's all fine and dandy to attack Klopp (or FSG) for not doing the deals but if we are getting the right players in Summer then I can accept that .. only if we don't drop out of the Top 4.
However that said, Rurik's brilliantly made post about how much we'd actually get out of some of the potential players we could have signed (CL cup tied for the likes of Keita and Lemar for example) if they were not fully fit and the time it would take to integrate them .. when we only have 12 matches to go .. is totally valid. They may only have played in half a dozen matches.

We are balanced on a knife-edge, make Top 4 and it was the right decision, fail to make Top 4 and it will clearly have been the wrong one. Only in retrospect will we be able to judge.
 
Didn't Pearce or Joyce just say Klopp will have the largest budget of any LFC manager in history ? I thought it was supposed to be £150m last Summer, that didn't happen. Maybe it's £200m this Summer .... we'll see what the net is come September.

Had we gotten Keita and VVD this summer, we would have spent the 210 mill like Pearce and Joyce said. We wanted both before the season started.

The transfer kitty for this summer will probably be even bigger, but that doesnt help much if we dont qualify for the CL.
Hopefully Klopp’s gamble pays off.
 
I think we'll get 2 of them at least this summer

Of course, then we lose another player (Salah/firmino/take your pick) who we'll have to replace
I don't see us losing any star player this Summer. Coutinho and Suarez were both with us for 4-5 seasons, I don't think that even Salah will leave before at least 3 seasons.

We'll probably get Keita, a Keeper (the rumours seem too strong for this not to be the case, maybe Alison or Donnarumba who it seems is also now in the picture), another CM for sure (Milner aging, Hendo's injuries mean at least one more is required in addition to Keita) and probably a striker to replace Sturridge (unless Ings sets the place on fire over the rest of the season) but I'm not sure at all we'll see any strengthening in defence.
 
There is no point claiming we've broken our transfer records (incoming or outgoing) or that Klopp will be handed "the largest ever warchest given to a Liverpool" manager.

Is there a club out there at the moment that isn't breaking their transfer records, that isn't giving their manager more than any of their predecessors have had to spend?

That's driven by the market rather than club ambition.

Ha, just seen your post Mark.

And broken our sale record by nearly double and we still have a £0 net spend. Practically everyone has broken their transfer records this season, the market is that inflated. It means shit when we've just sold our best player for one of the record fees ever paid in world football.
 
Isn't that where Reddy works?

Yeah but that doesn't really make a difference, does it? You can either say it's Goal, and therefore not credible, or acknowledge that Reddy is one of the connected journalists that gets info from the club, in which case you can say she's had info from the club that they are looking at another centre-back. But that could just be spin. Of course the club are going to leak information to say 'don't worry about this window, we're going to spunk shedloads of cash in the summer'.

So it's all bullshit until we actually sign someone. But there's really no point getting worked up about it, because even if by some miracle we get the calibre of goalkeeper, second centre back, possible RB (if Clyne can't get clean by that point), one other centre midfielder, a striker (unless Ings/Solanke work out), and another attacking midfielder this summer, Man City will still be able to spend £70 million on a bench-warmer. So we're having to play against the odds either way.
 
Unless all our priority targets are not playing in the World Cup this summer, brace ourselves for multiple transfer 'sagas' where player pricetags will be even more inflated based on their performance playing for country.
 
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