David Silva - the new Luis Garcia? Minus the goals

[manwithnoname]

Yeah, he doesn't seem good enough to be linked with Madrid; Kaka, Ribery, Villa, Ronaldo....and Silva?...hmmm, strange, but then they're a strange club and this is going to be a strange summer

 

[Mystic]

[quote author=Brendan link=topic=33906.msg883408#msg883408 date=1244308675]
Yeah, he doesn't seem good enough to be linked with Madrid; Kaka, Ribery, Villa, Ronaldo....and Silva?...hmmm, strange, but then they're a strange club and this is going to be a strange summer
[/quote]

He's plenty good enough, he just doesn't seem "glamorous" enough to be linked with them, for lack of a better word.

It's a bit like the Hunterlear transfer last year.

 

[manwithnoname]

Well, out of Villa, Ribery, Silva and Ronaldo, I think there would be some debate as to who any club would have as top priority, but little about who would be lowest: Silva, by some distance

 

[Mystic]

[quote author=Brendan link=topic=33906.msg883411#msg883411 date=1244309238]
Well, out of Villa, Ribery, Silva and Ronaldo, I think there would be some debate as to who any club would have as top priority, but little about who would be lowest: Silva, by some distance
[/quote]

He's clearly the lesser of that group, doesn't change the fact he's still a very good footballer.

 

[spider-Neil]

wouldn't exactly class myself as a silva 'fan' but I would be disappointed if we didn't get him purely because (outside of tevez) he is clearly the best option in a wide midfield position we have been linked with.

 

[the count]

from BBC gossip
1249 BST: Real Madrid president Florentino Perez has told club sporting director Jorge Valdano to negotiate with Valencia for star duo David Silva and David Villa, but not to pay over €20m and €25m for the pair respectively. Silva is also wanted by Liverpool, whilst Villa is a reported target for Chelsea. (Marca)

 

[Avmenon]

There's no point in trying to out-bid Real Madrid, if Silva isn't interested Rafa just needs to move on.

As quickly as possible tho; another protraced MON/Barry sge would be horrid.

 

[Frogfish]

[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=33906.msg883555#msg883555 date=1244339410]
There's no point in trying to out-bid Real Madrid, if Silva isn't interested Rafa just needs to move on.

As quickly as possible tho; another protraced MON/Barry sge would be horrid.
[/quote]

If €20m is the max Real are willing to pay then it isn't going to take much to outbid them. It's whether Silva would prefer to remain in Spain or come to Costa del Mersey.

And I hardly see any point at all in comparing Silva to Ronaldo or Ribery who aren't targets for us for so many reasons. Silva is realistic, value for money and should suit us down to the ground. I really hope we get him. Adam Johnson seems to be the alternative !

 

[Squiggles]

I'd like to think our scouting network could find an alternative so it isn't Silva or bust.

God knows who mind, I don't want another Pennant, but if the interest from Real Madrid is serious I can't seeing us having a chance.

 

[Oncy]

[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=33906.msg883564#msg883564 date=1244347170]
I'd like to think our scouting network could find an alternative so it isn't Silva or bust.

God knows who mind, I don't want another Pennant, but if the interest from Real Madrid is serious I can't seeing us having a chance.
[/quote]Maxi? Lucho? Young? Kuba?

 

[TheBunnyman]

€25m for David Villa?! I'd be amazed if he goes for as little as that.

Still hoping we sign Silva, but Real must have obvious attractions for any young Spanish player.

 

[Avmenon]

Exactly right.

I'd love to see Rafa gamble on him,but to stand any hope of bringing him here would require a bid that would blow Real out of the water.

Don't see that happening 🙁

 

[Tinto]

[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=33906.msg883561#msg883561 date=1244345857]

If €20m is the max Real are willing to pay then it isn't going to take much to outbid them. It's whether Silva would prefer to remain in Spain or come to Costa del Mersey.

And I hardly see any point at all in comparing Silva to Ronaldo or Ribery who aren't targets for us for so many reasons. Silva is realistic, value for money and should suit us down to the ground. I really hope we get him. Adam Johnson seems to be the alternative !
[/quote]

Liverpool boss Benitez ups bid for Valencia winger Silva
07.06.09 | tribalfootball.com

Liverpool boss Rafa Benitez is sweating on a deal for Valencia winger David Silva.

The Mirror says Benitez felt he was in pole position to land Silva from his old club Valencia, only for Real Madrid to declare an interest.

Real sporting director Miguel Paradeza and general director Jorge Valdano met Silva’s agent Julio Llorente for 90 minutes earlier this week.

Benitez has improved his initial £15m offer to almost £18m, but knows Real have the financial muscle to elbow him aside.

 

[the count]

Valencia new chairman Manuel Llorente has revealed that David Villa and David Silva can go for the right price. “Right now our intention is not to sell players to Real Madrid or Barcelona, but sometimes you have to do what you have to do and if an interesting sum is offered we will think about it,†Llorente said during his presentation as the new Che chairman. “Selling players is a necessity and an obligation.â€

So all may not be lost after all. If we can more or less match Madrid's valuation of Silva, then it sounds from those quotes that Valentia would prefer to sell their star players abroad.

 

[Hansern]

It's reported today that Real have tabled a bid for Silva. He, however, is keen to join Barca.

Looks like he wont be joining us.

 

[Skullflower]

[quote author=Hansern link=topic=33906.msg885814#msg885814 date=1244656874]
It's reported today that Real have tabled a bid for Silva. He, however, is keen to join Barca.

Looks like he wont be joining us.
[/quote]

kell sir preeze

 

[MaschedUp]

[quote author=Hansern link=topic=33906.msg885814#msg885814 date=1244656874]
It's reported today that Real have tabled a bid for Silva. He, however, is keen to join Barca.

Looks like he wont be joining us.
[/quote]

They are tabling a bid for Ronaldo. I can see them buying Villa too. Can't think they'll sign Silva as well unless they don't get Ronaldo.

I think Silva will prefer another Spanish team, so our chances are very slim.

 

[MaschedUp]

[quote author=MaschedUp link=topic=33906.msg885825#msg885825 date=1244657653]
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=33906.msg885814#msg885814 date=1244656874]
It's reported today that Real have tabled a bid for Silva. He, however, is keen to join Barca.

Looks like he wont be joining us.
[/quote]

They are tabling a bid for Ronaldo. I can see them buying Villa too. Can't think they'll sign Silva as well unless they don't get Ronaldo.

I think Silva will prefer another Spanish team, so our chances are very slim at best.


[/quote]

 

[Peatcheo]

It seems to have gone all quiet on the Silva front, minus that Tribal Football article. Does anyone know of any concrete bids or contact?

 

[TheBunnyman]

Rafa won't want to get into an auction with Real and Barca, that's for sure, but Silva might still prefer us - we're actually more Spanish as a club than either of them.

 

[keniget]

Well, I wouldn't say we're more Spanish than Barca but yeah, I was going to say something along the same lines - we've got a chance.

 

[Halmeister]

According to Skysports.com David Silva is no longer for sale, while Valencia will be willing to listen to offers for David Villa.

I have absolutely no idea who we're going to sign this summer, and every potential signing I would have hoped for seems to be out of the question for us now.

 

[Oncy]

[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=33906.msg886010#msg886010 date=1244668109]
According to Skysports.com David Silva is no longer for sale, while Valencia will be willing to listen to offers for David Villa.

I have absolutely no idea who we're going to sign this summer, and every potential signing I would have hoped for seems to be out of the question for us now.
[/quote]The club is losing 30m a month paying their debt. They can make any statements they like, its the banks who will demand the sale. If they get an offer deemed enough, he'll be off.

 

[spider-Neil]

[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=33906.msg886136#msg886136 date=1244710612]
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=33906.msg886010#msg886010 date=1244668109]
According to Skysports.com David Silva is no longer for sale, while Valencia will be willing to listen to offers for David Villa.

I have absolutely no idea who we're going to sign this summer, and every potential signing I would have hoped for seems to be out of the question for us now.
[/quote]The club is losing 30m a month paying their debt. They can make any statements they like, its the banks who will demand the sale. If they get an offer deemed enough, he'll be off.
[/quote]

if they get a big enough fee for villa they wont have to sell silva

 

[Oncy]

[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=33906.msg886165#msg886165 date=1244711589]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=33906.msg886136#msg886136 date=1244710612]
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=33906.msg886010#msg886010 date=1244668109]
According to Skysports.com David Silva is no longer for sale, while Valencia will be willing to listen to offers for David Villa.

I have absolutely no idea who we're going to sign this summer, and every potential signing I would have hoped for seems to be out of the question for us now.
[/quote]The club is losing 30m a month paying their debt. They can make any statements they like, its the banks who will demand the sale. If they get an offer deemed enough, he'll be off.
[/quote]

if they get a big enough fee for villa they wont have to sell silva
[/quote]Unless you mean a fee of 300m then yes they will.

 

[StevieM]

[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=33906.msg886165#msg886165 date=1244711589]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=33906.msg886136#msg886136 date=1244710612]
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=33906.msg886010#msg886010 date=1244668109]
According to Skysports.com David Silva is no longer for sale, while Valencia will be willing to listen to offers for David Villa.

I have absolutely no idea who we're going to sign this summer, and every potential signing I would have hoped for seems to be out of the question for us now.
[/quote]The club is losing 30m a month paying their debt. They can make any statements they like, its the banks who will demand the sale. If they get an offer deemed enough, he'll be off.
[/quote]

if they get a big enough fee for villa they wont have to sell silva
[/quote]

Valencia have to sell. Everyone knows that. Villa & Silva will be sold because they are their biggest two assests. However Valencias want crazy bids and everyone lese, particularly Barca & Real know they HAVE to sell.

Villa, to be fair is picky. He's not your boig standard mecenary. He3'll stay in Spain. They'll not sighn Silva but they'll take Villa for about 28m later on in the sumer to conclude their deals.

 

[keniget]

Yeah, Silva will go in the end if the interest in him is strong enough. They're majorly in the shit and those kind of statements are very very poor bluffs.

 

[Molbystwin]

[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=33906.msg886136#msg886136 date=1244710612]
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=33906.msg886010#msg886010 date=1244668109]
According to Skysports.com David Silva is no longer for sale, while Valencia will be willing to listen to offers for David Villa.

I have absolutely no idea who we're going to sign this summer, and every potential signing I would have hoped for seems to be out of the question for us now.
[/quote]The club is losing 30m a month paying their debt. They can make any statements they like, its the banks who will demand the sale. If they get an offer deemed enough, he'll be off.
[/quote]

30M a month??

a 500M debt at 60% interest??

They are in the shit there is no doubt but they are not that much in the shit.... they will have to sell Silva though without doubt.

 

[keniget]

All over la Liga, Spain’s football clubs have been taking one for the team and helping out their most loyal supporters in these dark financial days.

Almería have announced that they will be dropping their season ticket prices by 30% for the new campaign. And this has nothing to do with a whopping 28% fall in attendances for the 2008/2009 season from the previous year.

Meanwhile, Real Betis have decided to give their supporters a break from the old routine by swapping tedious trips to the Camp Nou for second division Sundays against Salamanca.

AS are reporting that construction king Florentino Pérez is contemplating the building of a Real Madrid Epcot centre - the third major infrastructure project being bandied about by a club president who appears to see cement mixers where fans see a stadium.

The paper enthuses that the family-friendly park will be stuffed with rides such as the Guti-themed ‘Spaced Mountain’ and an ‘It’s a Small World’-style boat-ride based on Real Madrid’s back four where you enjoy the sight of slow-moving figures repeating the same rib-tickling actions again and again.


But beating all these funtastic efforts hands down are Valencia, the club whose bold campaign allows everyone in the city a go at being president.

A busy weekend for the men from Mestalla saw the club appoint their seventh head honcho in just 15 months. In fact, a busy weekend for the men from Mestalla saw the club appoint their third head honcho in just four days.

The latest east coast eruptions began on Thursday when the then president, Vicente Soriano, was forced to step down by the club’s biggest creditors, Bancaja, for having failed to sell the old Mestalla or do anything whatsoever to improve the club’s disastrous financial position.

In copying Ramón Calderón’s resignation speech, Soriano claimed that he was leaving his position “with a clear conscience†but that he was also going “with a dagger in my heart because I have not been able to reorganise the club.â€

(In many ways Soriano got off lightly, considering a number of his predecessors at this most viscous of clubs have left the post of president with actual daggers in their hearts.)

Taking over from the second biggest majority shareholder was Javier Gómez, but he only lasted two days before Manuel Llorente moved into the hot seat.

Llorente was the club's Delegate General between 1998 and 2004 (and involved in a corruption scandal in this time, warn El País) and is the choice of Bancaja, who are the real trouser-wearers at the club these days. “The role of president is not one that is a pleasant experience,†noted Llorente on taking up his new role.

Llorente has said that if the likes of David Villa are to be sold, then it will be for as much money as possible. But according to an article in Monday’s El País he is hardly in a position to make demands from any potential purchasers.

In a terrifying read for Valencia fans, the paper reports that the club’s debt at the end of June will stand at 547 million Euro with 70m having been lost this season alone. In the past six years the club has spent 300m Euro more than its total income from the same period.

It makes one wonder why those in charge can't be thrown into the slammer on the grounds of complete idiocy. The issue with such an action is that it would set a precedent that would see a good 90% of those running the game in Spain doing time.

But then again, that might give a chance to those who may actually know what they are doing to have a go. A bold step forward for la Liga.

 

[vikas]

If Madrid get Villa, can't see them being in for Silva, I'm sure there will actually be a time where Perez realises they desperately need some defensive minded players too. Barca on the other hand might want him, but where would he play in their side? Maybe as an in-an-out squaddie originally, replacing Hleb.

We're still in with a decent shout on him if we REALLY want him bad enough I reckon.