I suspect it’s more likely we’re done until Andre in January - then we move on to the defence next summer.
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I suspect it’s more likely we’re done until Andre in January - then we move on to the defence next summer.
6/10.
Very happy as things stand with MacAllister and Szobo but that was the bare minimum expected.
We look pretty weak and light defensively and have done very little on that front. We are still an injury away from a crisis.
Endo, I see, is being pinned on Klopp. Big call from him if true. Hope it pays off for him.
Doucoure plays for Mali and they didnt qualify for the AFCON.
You're assuming Gvardiol would have chosen us over City - he wouldn't have.
7/10 as it stands.
People believing we would get 3 midfielders, a CB and RB back up are in cloud cuckoo land. That was never going to happen.
However we've got 2 x £60-75m midfielders even if we didn't pay that for them. A #6 that is below expectations but may just work out for now, and likely another midfielder before the window closes (if it's Doucoure then we're up to a 9/10 window for me).
I don't believe we're in for Andre at all. Next Summer will be the defence's turn for an overhaul.
People believing we would get 3 midfielders, a CB and RB back up are in cloud cuckoo land. That was never going to happen.
However we've got 2 x £60-75m midfielders even if we didn't pay that for them. A #6 that is below expectations but may just work out for now, and likely another midfielder before the window closes (if it's Doucoure then we're up to a 9/10 window for me).
I don't believe we're in for Andre at all. Next Summer will be the defence's turn for an overhaul.
You're assuming he wouldn't have.
4/10
Seriously, our squad is threadbare.
The additions of Mac Allister and Szoboszlai are top notch.
Endo who knows.
But we need 2 other 1st team options. Midfield and Defence.
Corrr, really not happy are you Nomad. What about the out goings and what we’ve managed to do there…have you accounted any of that in your rating or do you only look at it from an incoming perspective?
Or looking at it another way, if Fab and Hendo were still here would it be a 2/10?
Secondly had we signed Caicedo for 110m instead of Endo for 16m what would you have rated it?
If anything, it sounds like Klopp has bailed the DoF/FSG out, with a stop gap option for at least a year or so. They're the ones that have fucked up, no one is going to blame Klopp for this, the buck stops with the bellends who have completely fucked Klopp over since winning the league and the CL, and this is a culmination of it all, putting him in this position.
I find it laughable that United fans repeatedly complain about the Glaziers. We've been massively fortunate that we have a manager who has had the tenacity and dignity to get on with it when completely and utterly up against a fucking awful ownership and ethos. The general ethos is fine - when it works, the complete inability/refusal to think outside the box, adapt and operate at other levels when needed is shambolic.
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6/10
Very happy with Szoboszlai and Mac, but the Lavia and Caicedo pursuits have left me further questioning the operations of the club.
Jury is out on Endo, but terms like unsung hero make me think back to the H&G days. It just makes me nervous.
Ultimately it's frustrating going into another season short. We will be very fortunate to avoid a CB injury crisis this season, IMO.
Very happy with Szoboszlai and Mac, but the Lavia and Caicedo pursuits have left me further questioning the operations of the club.
Jury is out on Endo, but terms like unsung hero make me think back to the H&G days. It just makes me nervous.
Ultimately it's frustrating going into another season short. We will be very fortunate to avoid a CB injury crisis this season, IMO.
I think it's telling that we've kept both Matip and Gomez, is smacks of sticking with what we've got and doing our usual, waiting until a later date to get one.
7/10 for Macca and Szobo alone as of the 21st of August. Endo could be a very smart signing as well. Still need 2 more players at least to make it a really good transfer window.
If we end up with Endo as our last signing then the window will be downgraded as a total to a 6/10.
If we end up with Endo as our last signing then the window will be downgraded as a total to a 6/10.
Have we actually had any offers for either player to leave? You'd have thought if we had then we'd be inclined to do something otherwise I can't see us taking 5 senior CB's into a season.
I wonder if Klopp has plans to feature Quansah in the cup games?
Anyone saying over a 5 is mad.
2 great midfielders in, alongside an adequate 6.
We lost 6 midfielders this summer. We needed a centre back and we've seemingly ignored that.
That's all before we factor in the nonsense of lavia and caicedo
Nah. This window is not for me yet
Hopefully we still plan to rectify some issues
2 great midfielders in, alongside an adequate 6.
We lost 6 midfielders this summer. We needed a centre back and we've seemingly ignored that.
That's all before we factor in the nonsense of lavia and caicedo
Nah. This window is not for me yet
Hopefully we still plan to rectify some issues
So the addition of a CB (say Hincapie or Theate being the 2 we've been most linked to recently) takes that from a 5 to what exactly? A 6? 8? 9.5? 10?
To be fair though, our 3 new midfielders have already contributed more than those 6 did the entire of last season and we’re only 2 games in.
Mac A even managed to spend more time on the Anfield pitch as he was walking off it after getting a red card than Arthur did the entire season!!!
Actually… does anyone know if he had Arthur or Melo on the back of his shirt - not even sure he managed to get his trackie top off!!!
What might surprise you to know is Melo has played a full 90M of a game
Depends on the CB. If it's a high ceiling young player who can step in relatively quickly, i'd bump it to a 6. Throw in another CM and i'd bump it higher.
which is a mild concern
And yet we're still looking at a starting 3 CMS with a massive drop off after it. Not much has changed in that regard. Our CB position is still very precarious, as is our RB situation
3 new midfielders and a high ceiling young CB whilst clearing out the dross a 6/10, oooft you're a hard hard man to please Fabio.
Ox : 9 PL (4 starts)
Keita : 8 PL (3 starts).
Melo : 1 sub.
Milner : everyone seemed to believe as a player he was done (31 PL Games, 7 starts, seems Klopp agreed)
Carvalho : made 13 appearances in total but just 4 as a starter. Nobody is missing him as opinion was virtually unanimous - he needed to go out on loan.
There is no way in the world anyone should be seriously including these and saying they need replacing man for man. Most of those started by necessity due to injuries. So the sum of literally SFA in effect, 18 starts between 5 players!
There may be a case for keeping Fabs and Hendo but most on here were slagging them off saying they were done too.
So two world class (to me - depends on your definition) midfielders and hopefully a very good PL proven player in Doucoure (fingers crossed, though I'd be very happy with Thuram) is a total rejig of the midfield with Thiago, Endo, Bajcetic, Jones and Elliott supplying backup and starters for early FAC / LC / some EL matches. Even Gakpo, Tsimikas and Clark if needs must.
That is a serious midfield compared to last seasons disaster.
Considering we went in to the window expecting a 250m rebuild, and we're probably going to spend a maximum of 150m...yes
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