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[article=http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/nov/24/liverpool-brendan-rodgers-daniel-sturridge-everton]Rodgers' biggest gripe was reserved for Sturridge, however, whom he dropped to the bench for 79 minutes as a result of playing 90 with a thigh injury for England against Germany. The Liverpool manager said; "I am looking at him in training on Friday and he is not right. Whose responsibility is that? It is the [Football] Association and the player.

"It is very simple for me. With any player, you have to put yourself on the training field. If you do that, you will be in with a chance of playing. Jon Flanagan was immense. He will be in a derby that is shown on Sky Golden in 30 years' time because of his desire and will to put himself out there every day.

"If you don't do that, there is a consequence – you don't play. If you want to be a champion, if you want to win things, you have to be ready. For this game I just felt Daniel wasn't ready."

Rodgers was asked how Sturridge responded to the news and whether he asked to play in such an important occasion? "No, I could see it in him. I have seen it before. There is a trend," he replied. "The games he has disappointed in have come when he hasn't trained. That was the call here."[/article]
 
Difficult to know what to read into this, if Sturridge has played 90 mins for England while injured and found it difficult to train as a result then I think Rodgers would be better off directing his anger at Hodgson for picking a guy who limped out of training the day before.

If on the other hand this is part of a larger pattern with Sturridge, as Rodgers seems to be suggesting, then Im glad hes benched him and publicly called him out on it
 
Sturridge is extremely ambitious from what I've gathered but he's also desperate to be in the world cup.
Hodgson shouldn't have played him injured but I guess Sturridge wanted to play and that is what is bothering Rodgers I guess.
Can't fault Rodgers here considering that Studger missed the entire pre season because of an injury he got while playing for England.
 
It's fair enough. It's telling Sturridge that there will be consequences if he insists on playing games for England, and then not being able to train properly for Liverpool, when not fully fit.
 
Sturridge is extremely ambitious from what I've gathered but he's also desperate to be in the world cup.
Hodgson shouldn't have played him injured but I guess Sturridge wanted to play and that is what is bothering Rodgers I guess.
Can't fault Rodgers here considering that Studger missed the entire pre season because of an injury he got while playing for England.


If he's injured, tell England he can't play. If you leave a dullard like Woy to decide, you might as well shut up. If he's not fit, don't let him play, don't moan about it after.
 
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If he's injured, tell England he can't play. If you leave a dullard like Woy to decide, you might as well shut up. If he's not fit, don't let him play, don't moan about it after.
Yup, and leave the criticism behind closed doors. Don't fucking come out and criticize your own player, particularly one who just saved you a point. That's not the Liverpool way.
He needs to be having a go at the England manager and FA instead. Then have a go at Sturridge in private.
 
Yup, and leave the criticism behind closed doors. Don't fucking come out and criticize your own player, particularly one who just saved you a point. That's not the Liverpool way.
He needs to be having a go at the England manager and FA instead. Then have a go at Sturridge in private.

You would have to imagine it has been said in private, Rodgers has hinted this is an ongoing issue with Sturridges attitude in training. Sometimes a player needs to be called to account publicly. I have no problem with what was said, Sturridge played well when he came on so its difficult to argue it hasnt had the desired effect
 
You would have to imagine it has been said in private, Rodgers has hinted this is an ongoing issue with Sturridges attitude in training. Sometimes a player needs to be called to account publicly. I have no problem with what was said, Sturridge played well when he came on so its difficult to argue it hasnt had the desired effect

He's coming out with this AFTER the game.
It's not the Liverpool way to criticise your own players in public, particularly of a 'problem' that the public weren't aware of instead of something obvious like a nasty foul or dive.
All of our most successful managers would not have done it. Ferguson would not have done it. Even Wenger would not have done it.
Sometimes rodgers needs to keep his mouth shut.
 
He's coming out with this AFTER the game.
It's not the Liverpool way to criticise your own players in public, particularly of a 'problem' that the public weren't aware of instead of something obvious like a nasty foul or dive.
All of our most successful managers would not have done it. Ferguson would not have done it. Even Wenger would not have done it.
Sometimes rodgers needs to keep his mouth shut.

At the end of the day, Sturridge knows he'll play if fit and ready, we might have given him a chance after he failed for one reason or another at City & Chelsea, but it doesn't mean we should bend over backwards for him.

People were rightly pleased when he criticised Luis in public, he got the balance right of making it clear the club wouldn't stand for any bollocks while maintaining that he's a major part of the club when his attitude is correct. I don't see alot of difference. He's had the arm around the shoulder treatment often enough, sometimes players need a wakeup call too.

I tend to agree with Skully anyway, I see him potentially becoming an issue in the longterm, lucky for us he's already pissed on his chances at two of the biggest clubs in the league.

Though as said, more fool the club for letting him go away injured. We'd have been better risking Sturridge having a gob on about being withdrawn, than ending up on the bench for the derby.
 
When Sturridge pulled out of the last squad, he said this, and, outside the city, got a national shellacking for it:

‘I’m more worried about Liverpool and more worried about
putting in good performances for us, us winning games and challenging for trophies. That is my
main ambition — it’s not about playing for England. That comes with doing the things you do for
your club and, if I don’t play well here, I won’t get the opportunity to do it there (at the World Cup finals).’


When Sturridge stayed in the squad this time and did as he was told, he gets a public ticking off from his manager.

The man who deserves the public criticism is Hodgson, who said this about playing Sturridge before the Germany game:
"It won't be 90 minutes – not because I don't think he’s capable of playing 90 minutes but because I've got Rickie Lambert, who was injured and couldn't play on Friday, who I want to see on the field'.
Then he plays him for 90 minutes, for no apparent reason at all, even though he'd acknowledged he was carrying an injury. That's what deserves an attack. Sturridge must feel like he can't win.
 
I'm not so sure that Rodgers is laying into Sturridge, or at least that's how I'm reading it.

He's laying into Hodgson/the FA for putting Sturridge into a position where he couldn't train and start for us.
 
He's coming out with this AFTER the game.
It's not the Liverpool way to criticise your own players in public, particularly of a 'problem' that the public weren't aware of instead of something obvious like a nasty foul or dive.
All of our most successful managers would not have done it. Ferguson would not have done it. Even Wenger would not have done it.
Sometimes rodgers needs to keep his mouth shut.

Except that Ferguson did it frequently, how many times did he publicly question Rooneys fitness/attitude. Dalglish was the opposite and defended the likes of Carroll and Adam from any criticism regarding their attitudes despite the fact they were both clearly unfit most of their time with us. I dont think there is a right way or wrong way to do it, it depends on the personalities involved and how many times the player has been warned about their behaviour. I remember Houllier publicly warning Gerrard about his attitude and lifestyle when he was manager too.
 
Poor poor Danny, the tears must be falling all over the leather seats of the super-car he's currently being forced to drive. Perhaps his tears are also blurring his signature as he scrawls into some no-marks autograph book with his Mont Blanc pen.

I blame that nasty brutish Brendan Rodgers and his sharp tongue, how dare he risk upsetting the delicate feelings of a superstar. Don't worry Dan, you'll be all grown up soon and able to take some constructive criticism.

I bet the tears are also falling on Budgie's Wurthers Originals stained jumper. I can just see the lump in his throat as he wells up confused as to why picking a really good player who has declared himself fit has caused criticism. Weally wowwying.

Beggars belief.
 
Hmm.
It's not about hurting one individual's feelings.
It's about club ethos.
A bit like companies creating corporate identity guides and mission statements so that all employees and employers alike follow a specific direction and identity as a group with no misunderstandings.
At Liverpool we don't do dirty laundry in public. It's what the club was built upon by our greatest manager.
 
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