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Celtic 62 not out

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I just try to picture how many Brendan Rodgers self-portraits that are gracing the halls of Celtic Park by now..
 
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Has anyone said he hasnt? I think Mark has gone OTT in his Rogers Defence League Duties.

The point is, given Celtics financial and infrastructural superiority , its not a massive surprise to hear they havent lost in 60 odd league games, nor is it a particular achievement to anybody not associated with Celtic.

Its a properly shite league, of course they will win it and subsequently they will win or draw the vast majorty of their games, so statistically to erradicate those handful of losses , its not really a feat is it?

Yes it is because in all the league around the place only 3 other teams have matched or beaten this run.

Not having an off day in league or cup while rotating your squad and competing in the CL in over 12 months is incredible.

It's not Madrid in Scotland, it's Celtic and up until last season they hasn't come close to this record in years
 
What does that first line say? Are you trying to say because its superrrrrrrrrrrrrr less competitive compared to the premier league or wherever else? I would imagine it wouldnt take a Madrid to replicate it either...

They dont compete in the cl over 12 months, they qualify in July and get humped and dumped , mathematically speaking by November, they reap te massive financial reward of the group stage though to further compiundthe difference between themselves and any perspective challengers in Scotland
 
It's not an ultra-defense of Rodgers, I just think people are being overtly critical, and quelle surprise it's his usual critics who are dismissing the record.

The guy won't ever be acknowledged for what he does, because there is always a section who will pin it on some other influence - shit league, Suarez, blah blah. It's pathetic.
 
That current Celtic team would probably get relegated from the premier league. That puts their record into perspective. Saying they'd finish mid table is fanciful.
 
What does that first line say? Are you trying to say because its superrrrrrrrrrrrrr less competitive compared to the premier league or wherever else? I would imagine it wouldnt take a Madrid to replicate it either...

They dont compete in the cl over 12 months, they qualify in July and get humped and dumped , mathematically speaking by November, they reap te massive financial reward of the group stage though to further compiundthe difference between themselves and any perspective challengers in Scotland
What i was saying is in all the leagues around the world in all the years, only 3 teams have had a better run unbeaten.

It's superb regardless of the opposition and the gulf isn't that wide compared with all other leagues
 
Yeah, the gulf between the sides in the League isnt big at all. The last time a team outside of Rangers and Celtic won the League was in 1985.
Its like everyone is in with a chance up there.
 
Yeah, the gulf between the sides in the League isnt big at all. The last time a team outside of Rangers and Celtic won the League was in 1985.
Its like everyone is in with a chance up there.

So not really that different to Spain, where it's usually Real or Barca, or indeed Germany, although that's really just Bayern on their own.
 
Yeah, the gulf between the sides in the League isnt big at all. The last time a team outside of Rangers and Celtic won the League was in 1985.
Its like everyone is in with a chance up there.
There is a massive difference between winning the league and beating the top side.

Bayern dominate Germany
Barca & Real Spain

Yet they lose games and to other teams not just themselves.
 
Yeah, the gulf between the sides in the League isnt big at all. The last time a team outside of Rangers and Celtic won the League was in 1985.
Its like everyone is in with a chance up there.
And this isn't a wow Celtic won the league again thread as that is expected. It's a wow not one single team has managed to beat them in over a year in any domestic game. That's extremely impressive.
 
Really? I think you need to look at European performances to have a guage on how strong those respective leagues are.

Germany has Dortmund, Schalke, Wolfsburg and Leverkusen over the last 15 years or so who are more than capable of upsetting Bayern on their day.

Likewise in Spain for Sevilla, Valencia and A Madrid.

As soon as Rangers went pop in Scotland there really wasn't anyone who could compete with Celtic.

McInnes has done well with Aberdeen, but a team of freebies isn't going to beat a team of half a mill players. Likewise Rangers are still in rebuild mode, they will start to hoover up all the young talent coming through again and not play them.

Is it impressive they've gone 62 games unbeaten? Yes. But no where near as impressive as it would be if the league had multiple winners over the last 30 years other than just the old firm. Bearing in mind that around 10 years ago the only team that could beat Celtic was Rangers anyway, I'm surprised its taken them this long to go on that run.
 
It's worthy of a 'oh, really?' rather than 'extremely impresssive'. Once Rangers went into administration I think everyone knew that Celtic were going to create a huge huge gulf up there. This (at least from me) isn't a dig at Rodgers, it is a dig at the SPL. And I say that as a man born in Aberdeen who supports Scotland over England in International football.

The impressive part would arguably being able to motivate your players to be up for every game, but the actual act of winning/ not losing is less so.

The SPL is dead. There were a period when Hearts & Rangers made it almost a three horse race, and things got mildly interesting but that is gone now.
 
So not really that different to Spain, where it's usually Real or Barca, or indeed Germany, although that's really just Bayern on their own.

If you'd bother to check your facts, you'd see that in both those leagues even though there is a massive Barca/Real/Bayern/ dominace, there are currently 4 and 5 other teams that have won the league in the same period.
The leagues are also much more competitive.

In Scotland its been a one team league since Rangers got fucked, and just two before that.
 
Really? I think you need to look at European performances to have a guage on how strong those respective leagues are.

Germany has Dortmund, Schalke, Wolfsburg and Leverkusen over the last 15 years or so who are more than capable of upsetting Bayern on their day.

Likewise in Spain for Sevilla, Valencia and A Madrid.

Hahahahahaha! Yeah, well capable. "On their day"

If you actually look at the last 20 years, Bayern have won the title 70% of the time. SEVENTY. FUCKING. PERCENT. And have won five in a row. Which is only one less than Celtic have managed.

And as for the teams capable of upsetting Bayern, if they're so fucking capable, how come they hardly ever do?

Leverkusen have won the Bundesliga....er never. Wolfsburg have managed to upset Bayern - let's see - once in the last two decades.
Dortmund have been the closest to actually supplying any kind of competition, with three titles in 20 years, but overall it's not really what one could - with any kind of straight face - claim was a competitive league, when Bayern are so hilariously dominant.
 
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If you'd bother to check your facts, you'd see that in both those leagues even though there is a massive Barca/Real/Bayern/ dominace, there are currently 4 and 5 other teams that have won the league in the same period.
The leagues are also much more competitive.

In Scotland its been a one team league since Rangers got fucked, and just two before that.

Ah yes, the famous competitive inferno that is La Liga.

OK, let's take a quick look at the same time period. Last 20 years.

Oh, wow. Real or Barca have won the title between them......seventeen times. That's 85% of the time. In fact there was almost a decade of consecutive Real/ Barca wins in that period too.
 
He's not for turning:

'I have an inherent belief in what we do and hopefully we have seen in 17 months what that can do for us as a club and as a team. At this level, of course it is remarkably difficult to do that [beat an elite club], but we must keep working towards that. We want to impose our own style in a competition of this level that gets results.”

Rodgers told a story to illustrate the depth of his conviction on that point. In 2009 he was in charge of Watford when they surprisingly ended a 16-game unbeaten run by Swansea in the Championship. “We were pragmatic, sat in, had a defensive block, and played on the counter-attack. We won 2-0. And it was one of the worst games I’ve been involved in! And to make it even worse someone handed me the performance of the week award…

“I had Malky Mackay, Sean Dyche, all my assistants, absolutely buzzing and I knew at that point that I’d put a life’s work in to developing a certain way of playing and I had a commitment to that
. When I hear people who have no commitment talking about ‘being pragmatic’… hold on a minute, what about all the other times you really enjoy our football? Pep Guardiola: if he is playing really exciting football he’s not all of a sudden going to sit back and be pragmatic. That’s not what he believes in. It’s not how he works. And that’s how I work. So … unlucky. I’m not going to be sat in on 25 metres. Although I say that now, come back to me tomorrow night! But it won’t be intentional!

“Over many years here there have been some good results but, in the main, it’s been really difficult for Celtic at this level. So if it’s going to be difficult and you are going to suffer, at least try and do it in the way you want to do it. I think the players have shown over the last couple of campaigns that we’re getting better, the way they are playing with the control and confidence they have. But of course, any slight mistake at this level gets punished and that’s the difference.”
 
I suppose the comparison to Pep Guardiola - which Rodgers obviously makes himself - does have some merit.

Playing football "the right way" in a non-competitive league and/or with a team who has the most money, seems to be the Guardiola MO too.
 
I wonder if he has many friends. He seems to almost relish suggesting that his so-called friends are his inferiors. Look at that dig at Mackay and Dyche - it conjures up an image of Mozart holding his head in artistic anguish whilst Salieri taps his toes contentedly listening to some oom-pah-pah music. And whatever happened to poor old Colin Pascoe? Is he wandering around some housing estate all alone, his shorts flapping forlornly in the wind?
 
He's not for turning:

'I have an inherent belief in what we do and hopefully we have seen in 17 months what that can do for us as a club and as a team. At this level, of course it is remarkably difficult to do that [beat an elite club], but we must keep working towards that. We want to impose our own style in a competition of this level that gets results.”

Rodgers told a story to illustrate the depth of his conviction on that point. In 2009 he was in charge of Watford when they surprisingly ended a 16-game unbeaten run by Swansea in the Championship. “We were pragmatic, sat in, had a defensive block, and played on the counter-attack. We won 2-0. And it was one of the worst games I’ve been involved in! And to make it even worse someone handed me the performance of the week award…

“I had Malky Mackay, Sean Dyche, all my assistants, absolutely buzzing and I knew at that point that I’d put a life’s work in to developing a certain way of playing and I had a commitment to that
. When I hear people who have no commitment talking about ‘being pragmatic’… hold on a minute, what about all the other times you really enjoy our football? Pep Guardiola: if he is playing really exciting football he’s not all of a sudden going to sit back and be pragmatic. That’s not what he believes in. It’s not how he works. And that’s how I work. So … unlucky. I’m not going to be sat in on 25 metres. Although I say that now, come back to me tomorrow night! But it won’t be intentional!

“Over many years here there have been some good results but, in the main, it’s been really difficult for Celtic at this level. So if it’s going to be difficult and you are going to suffer, at least try and do it in the way you want to do it. I think the players have shown over the last couple of campaigns that we’re getting better, the way they are playing with the control and confidence they have. But of course, any slight mistake at this level gets punished and that’s the difference.”
Lol
 
I wonder if he has many friends. He seems to almost relish suggesting that his so-called friends are his inferiors. Look at that dig at Mackay and Dyche - it conjures up an image of Mozart holding his head in artistic anguish whilst Salieri taps his toes contentedly listening to some oom-pah-pah music. And whatever happened to poor old Colin Pascoe? Is he wandering around some housing estate all alone, his shorts flapping forlornly in the wind?

Hahahahahahaha

Equally, the appointment of Sean O'Driscoll at Liverpool seemed exactly the sort of thing a deeply insecure person would do, after throwing Pascoe under the bus.
Another "happy to be here" yes man, with fuck all experience at a big club, who would do nothing more than nod at everything Rodgers said.
 
Trying to think of anything I give less of shit about. No, I've got nowt.

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Arsenal!
 
Even if we played 31 championship or even League 1 teams, home and away, I am not 100% confident if we could go 62 games without a loss. So this is a very good achievement.

Rodgers does have the ability to get his teams to go on decent unbeaten runs. When Suarez was suspended for 8 games, weren't we unbeaten? Also in his penultimate season, I think we went on a good run in the league between the two Manc games.
 
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