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We learned this lesson in the FA Cup and brought on Bradley to deal with him, which worked immediately.
We've got to go with either Bradley or Gomez at right back moving forward now. Not sure when Bradley is back, but with Szobo out for a while it's the perfect opportunity to play Trent in midfield. Him, Bradley and Salah together on the right side is pretty mouthwatering.
We did, but we also had a midfield lacking in creativity or pace that generally included a combination of Fabinho, Milner, Henderson & Gini - I remember when people would post they’d stop watching if they had to look at Gini, Milner & Hendo plod around passing it sideways and back.
We also set up with a False 9.
As great as that team was, opposition teams figured out how to beat it - and we struggled against low blocks constantly.
More importantly, targeting the space in behind Trent didn’t start with him inverting - it started before that leaving the right centre back covering the hole while Trent was doing what he did best.
That the created an even bigger whole in the centre of the defence that a single DM couldn’t plug, so we were getting murdered through the middle and out wide.
At least with Trent inverting into a 6 position, there isn’t as far for him to get back when we transition back to our defensive shape.
This inverted FB we’re operating isn’t just about Trent - it’s about extra protection through the middle, move the ball through the centre and we can move it longer and faster up to Nunez so we can utilise his strengths better.
The other point of the inverted FB - giving you an overload in the centre - means the opposition is goaded into moving their wide player inside to level up the numbers which nullifies the threat.
There’s obviously different ways to do it - but if you pull a player from somewhere else then you leave space for us to exploit - then it becomes who can hold the ball, their shape and progress the ball into dangers areas effectively.
Like I said, City & Arsenal do it almost entirely for control - City then hold the ball and shift it around until they pull someone out of position or find an overload and exploit it. Arsenal have a very aggressive press but also end up cycling it round “the horseshoe” I believe we’re calling it.
We do it partly for control, but partly to create chaos with Trent’s passing delivering a more direct route to Darwin so he can wreak havoc - that’s why his assists are so high - Mo too, while Trent’s assists are down because he’s getting involved earlier.
There’s going to be top teams that figure it out and beat it - it’s higher risk football but can be more fun.
I don’t think we’ll play this system forever - Salah is another key component - when he goes the system will likely change.
I'd like to see Endo- Ali Mac pairing. Considering both Trent and Dom are coming back from injury, they can be introduced in the last 30m
-----------------Ali----------------
Bradley--Quansah-VVD---Gomez
----------------Endo-------------
--------Jones---------Macca------
--Diaz---------Jota--------Nunez
-----------------Ali----------------
Bradley--Quansah-VVD---Gomez
----------------Endo-------------
--------Jones---------Macca------
--Diaz---------Jota--------Nunez
You know the problem with that set up - who provides the width?
If Szobo is out, and we assume that Bradley is not back with the squad yet (unless anyone has seen otherwise) I am going to upgrade my team to this.
Alisson
Gomez
Quansah
Virgil
Robbo
Macca
Trent
Jones
Diaz
Jota
Nunez
I think Robbo is ready to start and do 60 mins. We can then get Endo back into the team but keep him slightly rested given number of games he has been churning out.
Alisson
Gomez
Quansah
Virgil
Robbo
Macca
Trent
Jones
Diaz
Jota
Nunez
I think Robbo is ready to start and do 60 mins. We can then get Endo back into the team but keep him slightly rested given number of games he has been churning out.
If Dom is out then we can have may be Trent coming in the 2nd half for Jones
-----------------Ali----------------
Bradley--Quansah-VVD---Gomez
----------------Endo-------------
--------Jones---------Macca------
--Diaz---------Jota--------Nunez
Alternative line-up if Salah is fit. Its Burnley at home we can take risks
-----------------Ali----------------
Bradley--Quansah-VVD---Gomez
----------------Endo-------------
--------Trent---------Macca------
--Salah---------Jota--------Nunez
God knows, reports earlier said that a Hungarian specialist said he will be out for a while, missing the cup final. Now the Echo are reporting this:
Dominik Szoboszlai to return to Liverpool after Hungary assessment
Liverpool midfielder Dominik Szoboszlai was seen by a specialist at Hungary FA's headquarters on Monday, according to Ben Bocsak.The Hungarian missed Sunday's defeat, as Jurgen Klopp hinted at a possible recurrence of the issue that forced him off against Newcastle on January 1.
Szoboszlai will return to Liverpool and while there is no date, Bocask claims that it will be sooner than expected.
Who cares? Salah will be back too, it wasn't a problem in any of the other games where Bradley played, and that was without Trent OR Salah, I don't see it as a problem at all. Also - Bradley provided loads of width, look at his goal, look at the assist for Szobo.
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Bradley is doing so well literally because he provides width. Are we being Whooshed?
Good analysis. And also speaks to why it's less effective with, say, Diaz on the left. He slows play down too much and doesn't create as much disruption as Darwin.
Darwin needs to be on the left, not through the middle, for this system to work its best.
I’m not saying it’s impossible, but here’s why I wouldn’t do it.
- Salah will stay out wide for a bit, but he needs to get inside where he’s more effective, so we’re narrow unless someone provides width
- If it’s Bradley, then someone needs to cover in behind. It works if the LB is inverting which helps plug the gap between CB’s if the RCB moves across to cover the space
- that impacts left side which then means Curtis has to provide width from midfield or you have Diaz out there.
- that likely means one of Nunez or Jota drops to the bench - both are better when they come inside from wide positions
- The Right Midfield role you’d have Trent in is the key pressing position on the right - it leads the press (particularly if Curtis has to drift wide). Dom’s great at it and Harvey presses well (but he’s not as physically strong). I don’t think pressing is one of Trent’s strengths and if the press doesn’t work, it’ll cause problems, particularly if Bradley is getting forward.
- Trent would be further forward where his long passing (the main reason he inverts to a 6) is somewhat curtailed. It does mean he can be in an area where he can directly create chances or more likely to score - but there’s a trade off.
- I think you then need Mac A in the 6 role, because his passing is better than Endo’s and Gomez doesn’t have as good a range either - dos if Gomez is inverting, I think him & Endo would be solid but limited.
I think if Gomez is inverting from LB to shore up the midfield it could work, but for me it’s more of an in game tactical swap that doesn’t last long - like when Trent drops in as the DM.
If Trent’s fit the he starts and inverts for me.l - doesn’t matter if it’s Gomez, Robbo or Tsimikas for that matter on the left.
If he’s not - then Bradley starts and I’d prefer Gomez on the left, although Tsimikas has also been the inverted FB from time to time. Not sure Robbo quite works there.
Lol
It says Arsenal game... My guess is when he was undressing to go on the pitch. The stress on his muscle must have been so great from unzipping causing his muscle fibre to snap
You're fucking kidding me, fuck that guy
I love that he's called the professor.
He's clearly tenured.
He's clearly tenured.
Thiago is injured again..
After 5 minutes into his last outing..
What is the point..
We should play Trent in midfield deputising for Szoboszlai..
Bradley at right back.. Nunez should start every league game from now on with Salah when he is fit..
We have never lost a game where Nunez has started this season..
We were so of the pace in the last game..
Nunez and Bradley will bring that to the table in spades..
After 5 minutes into his last outing..
What is the point..
We should play Trent in midfield deputising for Szoboszlai..
Bradley at right back.. Nunez should start every league game from now on with Salah when he is fit..
We have never lost a game where Nunez has started this season..
We were so of the pace in the last game..
Nunez and Bradley will bring that to the table in spades..
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Dom is probably back in 2 weeks time according to the Hungarian journos.
I just saw the headline about Thiago injured again. What the fuck did he actually do or was done to him in the few minutes he was on the pitch ? You have to laugh, but only at 50% because Klopp was taking the piss out of him making him do all that running and heavy tackling last season when neither Fab Hendo could run.
We were stupid for buying him. Not for thinking that a midfielder might have to tackle or run from time to time.
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