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Tony, it was all over the media at the time and neither club denied it - in fact I'm pretty sure Barca confirmed that Liverpool's had been the higher offer and that negotiations were at an advanced stage. What there definitely is no evidence for is the idea that even a much higher wage offer would have been enough to overcome the player's obvious preference. He himself referred to the lady as his wife in the coverage I saw.
Wasn't it also said by Wenger that he was surprised that the Gooners were able to nab him from under Liverpool's nose?
I think there was also a mention by @gkmacca that we had the deal done but dallied somewhat, allowing Arsenal to make their move.
I do think though that once Arsenal did come on the scene our goose was cooked.
I think there was also a mention by @gkmacca that we had the deal done but dallied somewhat, allowing Arsenal to make their move.
I do think though that once Arsenal did come on the scene our goose was cooked.
This was all a bit dull so I decided to see what his girlfriend/wife looked like. He doesn't seem to have one right now but was dumped by (I think) his last two for being a crap shag by one and for letting his mates hide in a wardrobe and make a sex tape of them by the other.
He was moaning about the committee when he was in charge too, but not too harshly because he had to toe the line and be a good boy. He was selfish, keeping shut and not starting a war for what he believed was best for the club, alas keeping his job.
I usually agree with you on a lot of things, but I don't think this is a gift. I think it is Rodgers defending himself, as per usual and you are reading to much into it.
Then there is my own dislike for Rodgers...
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And regarding Williams, he might be decent, but when you kind of lose credibility considering the rest of the dross you've signed. What's different with this lad. Does Rodgers have a good eye for a player now then?
And Carra, great defender, and he could be right, but he isn't a scout, and doesn't have to deal with the accountability, so it is just as easy for him to throw names around saying they are great.
And Carra, great defender, and he could be right, but he isn't a scout, and doesn't have to deal with the accountability, so it is just as easy for him to throw names around saying they are great.
Wenger had been after him for ages though, and they met in Brazil during or before the WC.
We did go all to get him. Didn't it come out that we offered more that Arsenal offered? He choose them.
Now, perhaps we should have lent harder on Barca to force his hand or get them to try block his move to Arsenal but did Barca really care? They were paying the buyout clause for Suarez and Suarez wanted to go to them so we lost our bit of bargaining power.
The Michael Owen transfer to Newcastle from Madrid is an example of a club forcing a player's hand into a move. But that was also down to Owen's own cowardice.
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Well, I said he was also defending himself. As for him being selfish by not going the way of Rafa and starting a public us against them situation, was that selfless? And did it work?
Yes, you did.
Well, I am not sure the two sets of owners, nor situations, are fully comparable.
There are differences, sure, but what positive would've come from Rodgers, in situ, saying he didn't have final say over signings? I doubt he would've survived. Anyway, if one looks at the impact of him saying it now, it could hardly have worked better if a PR company had been hired to get the message out there. It's being discussed all over the place, the pressure is on the committee to be seen to be backing the manager rather than dictating to him, and Klopp hasn't needed to get involved. So intended or unintended, it's been a good thing IMHO.
I guess the positive for Rodgers was that he kept his job 🙂
It might also be that Klopp had it this writing already and it was irrelevant in that sense.
But has been a good thing, agreed, intended or not. Now the public knows.
Klopp said the buck stops with him. The way it should be.
@tomasjj, I think a lot of people in this thread, including yourself are being a bit biased due to their Rodgers' 'hatred'. gkmacca is being vocal here in semi defense of Rodgers as he's reading the situation for what it is. I don't think macca was even a big fan of Rodgers. He is just giving him credit for speaking positively about his time with us.
I like Klopp's simple explanation of his understanding of how we will do transfers:
"If I don't want a player to come here then he will not come. If a player I want doesn't fit our budget then he will not come"
Fairly clear. Although I do worry about the last bit happening too often for his liking. We shall see.
"If I don't want a player to come here then he will not come. If a player I want doesn't fit our budget then he will not come"
Fairly clear. Although I do worry about the last bit happening too often for his liking. We shall see.
That's a great interpretation. I hope you're right macca.
We should have had other ideas than just Sanchez. Scouts, Rodgers, the committee all take the blame on that one.
Why? We'll have a bigger budget then he had at Dortmund. We've been pissing away money on overvalued average players from the PL. Hopefully he'll be looking elsewhere.
From what Rodgers has said, he would have a target and if it wasn't feasible there would be a committee created shortlist that they would then take players from. That's a pretty shite way of working really, when there is such a clear lack of consistency between the type of player who was prime target and the type of player who was the fallback option. I mean, the difference between Sanchez and Mario, who are worlds apart in style, attitude and workrate.
A good DOF or even manager would realise that it would have been better to do nothing than buy Lambert and Balotelli.
But if you're a manager who feels under pressure you're going to buy anybody.
Total shambles of a system
This is it, so you have 5 people (for example) all pulling in entirely different directions. If you have Sanchez as a target, then you have a quick/skillful attacker as an alternative, it's simple stuff, right? And if you don't have a target available who justifies the bother in the longterm, then you leave it. You don't plough shitloads of investment into a player who's likely to only be here for a season or two to fill a hole. Promote a youngster, get by, whatever.
It's like when we bought Sakho because we lost out on a couple of attackers and he became available. And then we went and spent another £20m on a left sided centre back. No structure. Spending for spending sake.
It's like when we bought Sakho because we lost out on a couple of attackers and he became available. And then we went and spent another £20m on a left sided centre back. No structure. Spending for spending sake.
Buy someone or don't buy anyone....the fans will revolt in either of those two scenarios.
Yup. Which is why I hope Klopp would ignore what fans want.
He seems self assured enough not to care
Ming did just get a new 5 year contract.
Thats probably the most positive spin you could put on it
That's Klopp ignoring the fans.
Depending on how much you believe in conspiracy theories you could postulate that this is what Klopp and Rodgers talked about when they initially met. Y'know the time when Klopp said he always did this and it was private between them two.
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