Thats why we only paid 32 million
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Thats why we only paid 32 million
Ibe delayed that pass far too long, that's a poor example.
He didn't play that great yesterday, but he did score... did get a pen... looks like he's leading the man of the match poll. Was the best of a bad bunch.
Look at Firmino yesterday. His first four touches gave the ball away, go and look... I was at the match wondering what was going on. Even on Saturday when everyone was sucking his dick he missed a load of chances. Y'all mad if you can't see how good Bentekkers is. He gets judged to a different standard because you're all shitting yourselves he's Carroll mk2.
Look at Firmino yesterday. His first four touches gave the ball away, go and look... I was at the match wondering what was going on. Even on Saturday when everyone was sucking his dick he missed a load of chances. Y'all mad if you can't see how good Bentekkers is. He gets judged to a different standard because you're all shitting yourselves he's Carroll mk2.
Ibe played the pass as soon as he could, he had to beat players first to play it.
He's very very good at scoring. The big surprise for me was how slow he looks. Thought he was at least average striker fast.
It was still too late though, so blaming BB is wrong. Basically, when watching the replay, it was just never on no matter early or late.
Most strikers miss chances but everyone jumps on bentekes. He more than makes up for those with the goals he creates from nothing. I think he's boss and am really chuffed we've got him.
Look, Benteke is performing just about as expected – scoring goals in roughly every other game and throwing his body around. He seems to have a generally positive attitude. Is that enough? At present with all our injury problems in the striking department I'll gladly take it. However, when you start thinking about building a world-class attack, there are some things Benteke just won't provide – he is not a playmaker type big striker like Ibra or Klose and he is not super-quick, so in an attack with Benteke we need somebody else to make runs and yet someone else to do the passing and glueing things together as Benteke does neither of those two things consistently.
We can expect Benteke will give us roughly what Balotelli was supposed to provide – a powerful second striker who can make goals out of nothing and is also a threat on crosses. That's good and valuable and I'm glad he is here, but we still need somebody else to be the #1 striker.
We can expect Benteke will give us roughly what Balotelli was supposed to provide – a powerful second striker who can make goals out of nothing and is also a threat on crosses. That's good and valuable and I'm glad he is here, but we still need somebody else to be the #1 striker.
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Look at the goals in clip above. Some great goals there, especially the manc and Bordeaux ones. So he obviously has quality. And lots of it.
He's scoring, can be unplayable, keeps defenders busy so others can exploit the created weaknesses and has only just started with us and a new manager.
He's a really good signing. And in today's market with all the new footy deal money, I'd say around 30mill is about right for him.
He's scoring, can be unplayable, keeps defenders busy so others can exploit the created weaknesses and has only just started with us and a new manager.
He's a really good signing. And in today's market with all the new footy deal money, I'd say around 30mill is about right for him.
Jürgen Klopp: Christian Benteke needs time to adapt at Liverpool
• Manager claims English football is too impatient with players
• ‘I am not sure Robert Lewandowski could have developed in England’
Liverpool’s Christian Benteke celebrates his winner against Bordeaux: ‘A brilliant player,’ said his manager . Photograph: John Powell/Liverpool FC via Getty Images
Andy Hunter
Jürgen Klopp said Christian Benteke needs time to adapt at Liverpool, claiming the impatience of English football would have prevented Robert Lewandowski from becoming one of the world’s finest forwards had he started in the Premier League.
The Liverpool manager, who met his predecessor, Brendan Rodgers, recently, doubts Benteke can start a second game in four days against Swansea City on Sunday as he regains fitness following a hamstring problem. But he has no reservations over the Belgium international’s long-term worth providing he has time to adapt at Liverpool after his £32.5m move from Aston Villa in the summer.
Benteke sealed victory over Bordeaux and a place in the last 32 of the Europa League for Liverpool on Thursday with his fifth goal of the season.
Klopp said: “It was a very important goal for him. When I came here he was injured. I know a lot about Christian because when he was at Aston Villa we [Borussia Dortmund] were interested in him, everyone was interested.
“A brilliant player but like everyone else if you are injured and come back everyone thinks you now have to be the Christian Benteke that he has shown before straight away. Each person needs time so he can get better, better, better. He worked hard against Bordeaux but we did not play too often in this formation so it was not easy for him and Roberto [Firmino] to close the lines. It wasn’t perfect but with time they can get better and better.”
Klopp drew parallels to the careers of Lewandowski and Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang, two strikers he brought to Dortmund and who lead the Bundesliga goalscoring chart with 14 and 15 goals respectively, Lewandowski now being at Bayern Munich. The German coach believes there is a marked contrast between the development time afforded in the Bundesliga and Premier League.
“I can tell you I am not sure that Robert Lewandowski could have developed into the Robert Lewandowski of today in England because no one is patient enough to wait for this,” he said. “He made seven goals in his first year and I don’t know what you would say about him if he made seven goals in one year and played all the time. ‘Not good enough, come on, sell him!’ Aubameyang needed three years for his performance at the moment, so sometimes you have to work together. It is very important in football.
“There is no doubt about the quality of all the strikers we have, no doubt at all. Now we have to help them to show it better and better. A striker more than any player needs the help of the rest of the team. They cannot take the ball and go through and make a goal so they need fine-tuned football, played here, played there, crosses, whatever – give them the ball in the right area. That is what we try and do but there is no doubt to the quality.”
Klopp confirmed he recently met Rodgers but refused to disclose whether the problems his predecessor encountered at Anfield were discussed.
“It was a really nice talk, he is a nice guy,” Klopp said. “I said that before I met him and we had a good talk. There was nothing else about sport; we spoke about the world and private things. It is not for you [to know]. I did things like this with Thomas Tuchel [his successor] at Dortmund and why shouldn’t I?
“If I want to know something about Liverpool I can read Marco Polo. I know where the Albert Docks are. Always when a new manager settles in things change. If I wanted to ask him something about the club I would have met him earlier, not after six weeks.”
• Manager claims English football is too impatient with players
• ‘I am not sure Robert Lewandowski could have developed in England’
Liverpool’s Christian Benteke celebrates his winner against Bordeaux: ‘A brilliant player,’ said his manager . Photograph: John Powell/Liverpool FC via Getty Images
Andy Hunter
Jürgen Klopp said Christian Benteke needs time to adapt at Liverpool, claiming the impatience of English football would have prevented Robert Lewandowski from becoming one of the world’s finest forwards had he started in the Premier League.
The Liverpool manager, who met his predecessor, Brendan Rodgers, recently, doubts Benteke can start a second game in four days against Swansea City on Sunday as he regains fitness following a hamstring problem. But he has no reservations over the Belgium international’s long-term worth providing he has time to adapt at Liverpool after his £32.5m move from Aston Villa in the summer.
Benteke sealed victory over Bordeaux and a place in the last 32 of the Europa League for Liverpool on Thursday with his fifth goal of the season.
Klopp said: “It was a very important goal for him. When I came here he was injured. I know a lot about Christian because when he was at Aston Villa we [Borussia Dortmund] were interested in him, everyone was interested.
“A brilliant player but like everyone else if you are injured and come back everyone thinks you now have to be the Christian Benteke that he has shown before straight away. Each person needs time so he can get better, better, better. He worked hard against Bordeaux but we did not play too often in this formation so it was not easy for him and Roberto [Firmino] to close the lines. It wasn’t perfect but with time they can get better and better.”
Klopp drew parallels to the careers of Lewandowski and Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang, two strikers he brought to Dortmund and who lead the Bundesliga goalscoring chart with 14 and 15 goals respectively, Lewandowski now being at Bayern Munich. The German coach believes there is a marked contrast between the development time afforded in the Bundesliga and Premier League.
“I can tell you I am not sure that Robert Lewandowski could have developed into the Robert Lewandowski of today in England because no one is patient enough to wait for this,” he said. “He made seven goals in his first year and I don’t know what you would say about him if he made seven goals in one year and played all the time. ‘Not good enough, come on, sell him!’ Aubameyang needed three years for his performance at the moment, so sometimes you have to work together. It is very important in football.
“There is no doubt about the quality of all the strikers we have, no doubt at all. Now we have to help them to show it better and better. A striker more than any player needs the help of the rest of the team. They cannot take the ball and go through and make a goal so they need fine-tuned football, played here, played there, crosses, whatever – give them the ball in the right area. That is what we try and do but there is no doubt to the quality.”
Klopp confirmed he recently met Rodgers but refused to disclose whether the problems his predecessor encountered at Anfield were discussed.
“It was a really nice talk, he is a nice guy,” Klopp said. “I said that before I met him and we had a good talk. There was nothing else about sport; we spoke about the world and private things. It is not for you [to know]. I did things like this with Thomas Tuchel [his successor] at Dortmund and why shouldn’t I?
“If I want to know something about Liverpool I can read Marco Polo. I know where the Albert Docks are. Always when a new manager settles in things change. If I wanted to ask him something about the club I would have met him earlier, not after six weeks.”
Really like the balance of approachability and f'ck-off refusal to bend to the media's agenda apparent in that interview.
Interesting point about Lewandowski and IMO it's spot on. Happy as Klopp is to be here, he clearly has no illusions about what he's come into.
Interesting point about Lewandowski and IMO it's spot on. Happy as Klopp is to be here, he clearly has no illusions about what he's come into.
Can't believe people are bashing Benteke or even comparing him to Carroll.
A smart striker would have timed his run.Compare the runs in behind to that of Frimino.
B.S. for a start you can't pick out one situation and say .. there that proves it. Because if you did then there are no such things as smart strikers because most get it wrong more often than not.
That aside you totally missed the point. If he has run later there was no pass because Ibe would then have been tackled or blocked, he couldn't have run earlier because Ibe couldn't make the pass, much earlier when Ibe could make a pass and Benteke (and everyone else) hadn't yet caught up with the run.
How many players do we have who can score the goals that he did against Manu, Bordeaux and that mental preseason one too? He's got talent, he's a beast and he's a very different option to have. When teams come to park the bus and the likes of Studge and Ings can't get a sniff, his size, power, presence and aerial threat could prove invaluable.
I'd agree Lukaku is more mobile but disagree with the rest of your comparison. Lukaku's current hot streak only began when the blueslime figured out how they need to play with him up front, namely give him through balls to chase. Benteke is at least as strong and skilful, and definitely better in the air.
Never said it wasn't decent but we could certainly ask for more. He's been ok so far, nothing more for me.
I think that interview there was Klopp telling us to stop doubting and to start believing.
You really are a dunce.
I'd rather we had Benteke than one of our rivals having him. As Klopp says he is still returning from injury and transitioning to a new style of play where a team isnt set up around him as the focal point. His finishing has been good, not great but he is getting plenty of chances which is a good sign as he knows how to find space for chances in the box.
Once we have a full quote of attackers in Benteke, Studge, Ings, Coutinho, Firmino, Lallana and Ibe i think our attack will be very rosy. We just need to 2-3 of them at a time to be in decent form and not all returning from injuries as they are at the moment.
Once we have a full quote of attackers in Benteke, Studge, Ings, Coutinho, Firmino, Lallana and Ibe i think our attack will be very rosy. We just need to 2-3 of them at a time to be in decent form and not all returning from injuries as they are at the moment.
Benteke is our best striker in the ongoing absence of Danny Sturridge, and only reliable source of goals. I still think Klopp should- and will - buy a really quick attacking player to replace Sterling, as Firmino, Lallana and Coutinho aren't quick enough, nor reliable enough for goals.
And he will also buy a new keeper to finally replace Mignolet, plus a new central midfielder.
Pretty much. I don't think he'll want to rely on Sturridge or Benteke, as they've both have dubious injury records, so he'll buy, which means I guess that eventually one of them might go, we'll see. The keeper and central midfielder are a no brainer.
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