Benitez: Changing Mourinho's ways will take time
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[quote author=Terrier link=topic=41646.msg1164770#msg1164770 date=1283004274]
Isn't there something inherently wrong with his premise?
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Yes.
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=41646.msg1164770#msg1164770 date=1283004274]
Why the fuck would you change anything about a team that just won the treble?
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I wouldn't. Rafa on the other hand has apparently lost his mind. I realise he needs to put his own stamp on the team, but to "change Mourinho's ways" is asinine.
Isn't there something inherently wrong with his premise?
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Yes.
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=41646.msg1164770#msg1164770 date=1283004274]
Why the fuck would you change anything about a team that just won the treble?
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I wouldn't. Rafa on the other hand has apparently lost his mind. I realise he needs to put his own stamp on the team, but to "change Mourinho's ways" is asinine.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=41646.msg1164773#msg1164773 date=1283004979]
I bet it doesn't take him long to change Mourinhos ways.
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ha ha
I'm a rafa fan, but that made me laugh ;D
I bet it doesn't take him long to change Mourinhos ways.
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ha ha
I'm a rafa fan, but that made me laugh ;D
[quote author=eecheerow link=topic=41646.msg1164771#msg1164771 date=1283004922]
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=41646.msg1164770#msg1164770 date=1283004274]
Isn't there something inherently wrong with his premise?
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Yes.
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=41646.msg1164770#msg1164770 date=1283004274]
Why the fuck would you change anything about a team that just won the treble?
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I wouldn't. Rafa on the other hand has apparently lost his mind. I realise he needs to put his own stamp on the team, but to "change Mourinho's ways" is asinine.
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To announce such an intention publicly is even loopier. This is presumably Rafa's response to Mourinho's trash-talking earlier this week. Neither has made himself look good in the process IMO.
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=41646.msg1164770#msg1164770 date=1283004274]
Isn't there something inherently wrong with his premise?
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Yes.
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=41646.msg1164770#msg1164770 date=1283004274]
Why the fuck would you change anything about a team that just won the treble?
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I wouldn't. Rafa on the other hand has apparently lost his mind. I realise he needs to put his own stamp on the team, but to "change Mourinho's ways" is asinine.
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To announce such an intention publicly is even loopier. This is presumably Rafa's response to Mourinho's trash-talking earlier this week. Neither has made himself look good in the process IMO.
Rafa Benitez was a very good manager when he joined us. But he made several decisions that were clouded by his ego, and those decisions eventually lead to his sacking.
Firing Paco for being pally with Mourinho was the start of bad things for him at Liverpool.
He would do well to forget Mourinho and focus again on his managerial career. At this rate he will get sacked by January.....
Firing Paco for being pally with Mourinho was the start of bad things for him at Liverpool.
He would do well to forget Mourinho and focus again on his managerial career. At this rate he will get sacked by January.....
Yeah, there's no doubt at all that he was the perfect choice as manager when Houllier left, and what a first season!
But there were several signs quite early on that he had some rather odd ideas cf signing players like Crouch, Josemi, Nunez, Morientes et al, and who could forget that display away to Southampton, Pellebastard and all
But there were several signs quite early on that he had some rather odd ideas cf signing players like Crouch, Josemi, Nunez, Morientes et al, and who could forget that display away to Southampton, Pellebastard and all
[quote author=Whitey85 link=topic=41646.msg1164839#msg1164839 date=1283015250]
I'm guessing he meant that he would like his Inter side to press high as his best Valencia/Liverpool sides did when they were flying under him.
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We played some super football for around 5 months of his entire tenure.
Asides from that we didn't really look that interesting a side and certainly didn't press high.
I'm guessing he meant that he would like his Inter side to press high as his best Valencia/Liverpool sides did when they were flying under him.
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We played some super football for around 5 months of his entire tenure.
Asides from that we didn't really look that interesting a side and certainly didn't press high.
Rafa like alot of managers has a hugely inflated opinion of himself but unlike mourinho he doesnt do it in a tongue in cheek way he is 100% serious, the problem Rafa has and the Inter fans are about to find this out is that he genuinely thinks that entirely dismantling a team that has played a perfect season is the way to go forward
Rafa will be the man to break Inters 5 year stretch of consecutive titles, I think it will the last time hes taken seriously as a top manager, he clearly lost the plot about 2 years ago and has gone off on a tangent that counter to any sort of common sense
I liked Rafa but statements like this make me glad we are rid of him
Rafa will be the man to break Inters 5 year stretch of consecutive titles, I think it will the last time hes taken seriously as a top manager, he clearly lost the plot about 2 years ago and has gone off on a tangent that counter to any sort of common sense
I liked Rafa but statements like this make me glad we are rid of him
What a cock he is, if he could just keep his trap shut he would make life much easier for himself
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i can't believe all the hatred being poured out in this thread. well, maybe hatred's too strong, but certainly contempt.
all he said was that he wanted inter to do some things differently, which seems perfectly reasonable - it doesn't even imply that there was anything wrong with mourinho's methods as much as them not fitting in with the way he likes his teams to play. surely every manager has a general footballing philosophy they're going to stick to wherever they go?
all he said was that he wanted inter to do some things differently, which seems perfectly reasonable - it doesn't even imply that there was anything wrong with mourinho's methods as much as them not fitting in with the way he likes his teams to play. surely every manager has a general footballing philosophy they're going to stick to wherever they go?
[quote author=peterhague link=topic=41646.msg1165066#msg1165066 date=1283043513]
i can't believe all the hatred being poured out in this thread. well, maybe hatred's too strong, but certainly contempt.
all he said was that he wanted inter to do some things differently, which seems perfectly reasonable - it doesn't even imply that there was anything wrong with mourinho's methods as much as them not fitting in with the way he likes his teams to play. surely every manager has a general footballing philosophy they're going to stick to wherever they go?
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Exactly. Otherwise they could have simply had Mourinho's assistant take over and told him to carry on doing the same thing (an impossible task anyway).
They hired a coach and are going to pay him millions per year, and there's a reason for that.
Bob Paisley did things differently to Bill Shankly. Was that a bad thing?
i can't believe all the hatred being poured out in this thread. well, maybe hatred's too strong, but certainly contempt.
all he said was that he wanted inter to do some things differently, which seems perfectly reasonable - it doesn't even imply that there was anything wrong with mourinho's methods as much as them not fitting in with the way he likes his teams to play. surely every manager has a general footballing philosophy they're going to stick to wherever they go?
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Exactly. Otherwise they could have simply had Mourinho's assistant take over and told him to carry on doing the same thing (an impossible task anyway).
They hired a coach and are going to pay him millions per year, and there's a reason for that.
Bob Paisley did things differently to Bill Shankly. Was that a bad thing?
[quote author=peterhague link=topic=41646.msg1165066#msg1165066 date=1283043513]
i can't believe all the hatred being poured out in this thread. well, maybe hatred's too strong, but certainly contempt.
all he said was that he wanted inter to do some things differently, which seems perfectly reasonable - it doesn't even imply that there was anything wrong with mourinho's methods as much as them not fitting in with the way he likes his teams to play. surely every manager has a general footballing philosophy they're going to stick to wherever they go?
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Its not really hatred, its an opportunity to vent the many frustrations built up over the years Rafa was in charge.
He must fucking hate Mourinho though
i can't believe all the hatred being poured out in this thread. well, maybe hatred's too strong, but certainly contempt.
all he said was that he wanted inter to do some things differently, which seems perfectly reasonable - it doesn't even imply that there was anything wrong with mourinho's methods as much as them not fitting in with the way he likes his teams to play. surely every manager has a general footballing philosophy they're going to stick to wherever they go?
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Its not really hatred, its an opportunity to vent the many frustrations built up over the years Rafa was in charge.
He must fucking hate Mourinho though
[quote author=juniormember link=topic=41646.msg1165068#msg1165068 date=1283045209]
[quote author=peterhague link=topic=41646.msg1165066#msg1165066 date=1283043513]
i can't believe all the hatred being poured out in this thread. well, maybe hatred's too strong, but certainly contempt.
all he said was that he wanted inter to do some things differently, which seems perfectly reasonable - it doesn't even imply that there was anything wrong with mourinho's methods as much as them not fitting in with the way he likes his teams to play. surely every manager has a general footballing philosophy they're going to stick to wherever they go?
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Exactly. Otherwise they could have simply had Mourinho's assistant take over and told him to carry on doing the same thing (an impossible task anyway).
They hired a coach and are going to pay him millions per year, and there's a reason for that.
Bob Paisley did things differently to Bill Shankly. Was that a bad thing?
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Obviously every manager will do things his own way and that's bound to involve some change from the previous regime. In fact it's so obvious that most managers don't feel the need to announce it in the media when they take over at a new club, especially when their predecessor won everything in sight, which means that such an announcement can only increase the pressure of the job. Paisley certainly didn't do so (and incidentally you can also bet he changed as little as poss, since he had been instrumental in helping Shanks to create the LFC setup in the first place).
[quote author=peterhague link=topic=41646.msg1165066#msg1165066 date=1283043513]
i can't believe all the hatred being poured out in this thread. well, maybe hatred's too strong, but certainly contempt.
all he said was that he wanted inter to do some things differently, which seems perfectly reasonable - it doesn't even imply that there was anything wrong with mourinho's methods as much as them not fitting in with the way he likes his teams to play. surely every manager has a general footballing philosophy they're going to stick to wherever they go?
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Exactly. Otherwise they could have simply had Mourinho's assistant take over and told him to carry on doing the same thing (an impossible task anyway).
They hired a coach and are going to pay him millions per year, and there's a reason for that.
Bob Paisley did things differently to Bill Shankly. Was that a bad thing?
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Obviously every manager will do things his own way and that's bound to involve some change from the previous regime. In fact it's so obvious that most managers don't feel the need to announce it in the media when they take over at a new club, especially when their predecessor won everything in sight, which means that such an announcement can only increase the pressure of the job. Paisley certainly didn't do so (and incidentally you can also bet he changed as little as poss, since he had been instrumental in helping Shanks to create the LFC setup in the first place).
[quote author=RolandG link=topic=41646.msg1165082#msg1165082 date=1283060088]
I'm not sure why the outcry over Rafa's comments.
He is well within his rights to makes the changes he deems necessary but why would we really care what he does or says?
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He was our manager just a matter of weeks ago and Inter are the European champions. There's plenty there to justify people's interest in the subject.
I'm not sure why the outcry over Rafa's comments.
He is well within his rights to makes the changes he deems necessary but why would we really care what he does or says?
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He was our manager just a matter of weeks ago and Inter are the European champions. There's plenty there to justify people's interest in the subject.
I agree with keni's point b wholeheartedly
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=41646.msg1164825#msg1164825 date=1283012037]
Yeah, there's no doubt at all that he was the perfect choice as manager when Houllier left, and what a first season!
But there were several signs quite early on that he had some rather odd ideas cf signing players like Crouch, Josemi, Nunez, Morientes et al, and who could forget that display away to Southampton, Pellebastard and all
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I had actually successfully blanked Pellgrino from my mind. I remember sitting in the lower centenary quite clearly, & I LITERALLY had to consciously think to close my mouth, it was agape at how poor he was.
I have never in living memory seen a Liverpool defender so poor. It was quite honestly shocking & painful watching him.
Yeah, there's no doubt at all that he was the perfect choice as manager when Houllier left, and what a first season!
But there were several signs quite early on that he had some rather odd ideas cf signing players like Crouch, Josemi, Nunez, Morientes et al, and who could forget that display away to Southampton, Pellebastard and all
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I had actually successfully blanked Pellgrino from my mind. I remember sitting in the lower centenary quite clearly, & I LITERALLY had to consciously think to close my mouth, it was agape at how poor he was.
I have never in living memory seen a Liverpool defender so poor. It was quite honestly shocking & painful watching him.
Haha - Pellegrino was so shite. It was like he played in slow motion. However, that derby performance gave everyone some hope to eternally cling on that he could be ok and was never as shite as he actually was (which tends to be a recurring thing with alot of our transfers)
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