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I've really grown to dislike European snobbery about the way Americans run sports. Yes, the TV breaks are a pain, and the commercialism and showbizzy thing can be over the top...

But, through the draft system they really try to make their leagues competitive and prevent the rich clubs buying all the talent. Imagine a league where every team had a few really good players and you went into the start of every season not being sure who was going to be in the top half of the table, nevermind the top four. All the top European leagues are a joke and we're fucking idiots for watching it. It's basically as fixed as that stupid wrestling that some of you watch.
 
I've really grown to dislike European snobbery about the way Americans run sports. Yes, the TV breaks are a pain, and the commercialism and showbizzy thing can be over the top...

But, through the draft system they really try to make their leagues competitive and prevent the rich clubs buying all the talent. Imagine a league where every team had a few really good players and you went into the start of every season not being sure who was going to be in the top half of the table, nevermind the top four. All the top European leagues are a joke and we're fucking idiots for watching it. It's basically as fixed as that stupid wrestling that some of you watch.

*clotheslines Gene*
 
I find the constant moaning about the state of play within football tiresome. It feels like people get all involved in all the negative aspects around it and then complain that's all there is to the game. The world is completely different to the way it was 30-40 years ago and yet for some reason football is expected to stay the same.
 
Occasionally, I think Robbie Savage's dress sense is alright.


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That's too far!
 
I've really grown to dislike European snobbery about the way Americans run sports. Yes, the TV breaks are a pain, and the commercialism and showbizzy thing can be over the top...

But, through the draft system they really try to make their leagues competitive and prevent the rich clubs buying all the talent. Imagine a league where every team had a few really good players and you went into the start of every season not being sure who was going to be in the top half of the table, nevermind the top four. All the top European leagues are a joke and we're fucking idiots for watching it. It's basically as fixed as that stupid wrestling that some of you watch.

I was with you until you called wrestling stupid.
 
I prefer AFL to football these days. By quite a distance too. It's the closest thing to 'pure' sport as I can find. For the most part, the players are honest and their on-field endeavours are flawless. The pride they take in offering up an effort in performance is incredible. Every single week the vast majority of them put their bodies on the line for the good of the team.

It puts the token gesture efforts of most premier league players to shame.

I get far far more enjoyment out of watching it.
 
I prefer AFL to football these days. By quite a distance too. It's the closest thing to 'pure' sport as I can find. For the most part, the players are honest and their on-field endeavours are flawless. The pride they take in offering up an effort in performance is incredible. Every single week the vast majority of them put their bodies on the line for the good of the team.

It puts the token gesture efforts of most premier league players to shame.

I get far far more enjoyment out of watching it.
Are you serious?
Outside of a handful of teams everyone is just plodding along until the end of season and the next draft pick. Ffs Carlton are already talking about ranking to get a good draft pick for next year.
With no cup comps and no relegation or promotion there is fuck all to play for for most teams after 5/6 rounds.
Fuck all of Carlton, Gold Coast, st Kilda players give a toss already.
 
I've really grown to dislike European snobbery about the way Americans run sports. Yes, the TV breaks are a pain, and the commercialism and showbizzy thing can be over the top...

But, through the draft system they really try to make their leagues competitive and prevent the rich clubs buying all the talent. Imagine a league where every team had a few really good players and you went into the start of every season not being sure who was going to be in the top half of the table, nevermind the top four. All the top European leagues are a joke and we're fucking idiots for watching it. It's basically as fixed as that stupid wrestling that some of you watch.


I was talking with a mate of mine the other day about something similar. Of all the top European leagues, how many teams can win them?

In England, realistically, Chelsea and Man City at the moment.

In Italy, one: Juventus

France, one: PSG

Spain, two, Atletico's triumph aside. Real and Barca

Germany - Bayern Munich. Maybe Dortmund, but most likely not for a while.

Portugal - Benfica and Porto.

It's shit now, and we're all dummies for putting up with it. Football is a business now, and we can see that with how the "major corporations" are monopolising all of the leagues. Our football is no longer ours, it's no longer an escape from the mundaneness and treachery of the real world. It, too, has been incorporated into it.
 
I've really grown to dislike European snobbery about the way Americans run sports. Yes, the TV breaks are a pain, and the commercialism and showbizzy thing can be over the top...

But, through the draft system they really try to make their leagues competitive and prevent the rich clubs buying all the talent. Imagine a league where every team had a few really good players and you went into the start of every season not being sure who was going to be in the top half of the table, nevermind the top four. All the top European leagues are a joke and we're fucking idiots for watching it. It's basically as fixed as that stupid wrestling that some of you watch.

Amazingly focused on the collective good, you know, for an American enterprise.
 
I've said it before, but I believe Ryan & Dreambeliever are in fact a middle aged gay couple, living in a semi in an Adelaide suburb, playing out a soap opera to an SCM audience for their own mutual enjoyment.

I will add to that by stating I am now convinced Ryan and Rosco are the same person

And Oncie is JJ's lovechild
 
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I find the constant moaning about the state of play within football tiresome. It feels like people get all involved in all the negative aspects around it and then complain that's all there is to the game. The world is completely different to the way it was 30-40 years ago and yet for some reason football is expected to stay the same.


The game is the same, broadly speaking the best teams are still the best teams. There are just more avenues for complaint now. The element of surprise has also gone with round the clock speculation and reporting also playing it's part to dull the senses. You can't row back but something has been lost.
 
I was talking with a mate of mine the other day about something similar. Of all the top European leagues, how many teams can win them?

In England, realistically, Chelsea and Man City at the moment.

In Italy, one: Juventus

France, one: PSG

Spain, two, Atletico's triumph aside. Real and Barca

Germany - Bayern Munich. Maybe Dortmund, but most likely not for a while.

Portugal - Benfica and Porto.

It's shit now, and we're all dummies for putting up with it. Football is a business now, and we can see that with how the "major corporations" are monopolising all of the leagues. Our football is no longer ours, it's no longer an escape from the mundaneness and treachery of the real world. It, too, has been incorporated into it.

My sentiments exactly.

I'm almost done with professional football. I can't stand the players, the managers, the referees, the owners, nothing. It's all about money.

I prefer watching my local team in Austria's 7th division these days. Honest sport, I know all the players and the BBQ is great.
 
I've said it before, but I believe Ryan & Dreambeliever are in fact a middle aged gay couple, living in a semi in an Adelaide suburb, playing out a soap opera to an SCM audience for their own mutual enjoyment.

I will add to that by stating I am now convinced Ryan and Rosco are the same person

And Oncie is JJ's lovechild
Hahaha. This is ace.
 
The game is the same, broadly speaking the best teams are still the best teams. There are just more avenues for complaint now. The element of surprise has also gone with round the clock speculation and reporting also playing it's part to dull the senses. You can't row back but something has been lost.

That second bit is down to choice though and that's why I don't get the moaning. Nobody is forcing anyone else to watch SSN all day, spend hours upon hours on football forums, reading news online and watching every single possible game on streams and so forth. I know people that just watch televised games and MOTD - that's it.
 
Are you serious?
Outside of a handful of teams everyone is just plodding along until the end of season and the next draft pick. Ffs Carlton are already talking about ranking to get a good draft pick for next year.
With no cup comps and no relegation or promotion there is fuck all to play for for most teams after 5/6 rounds.
Fuck all of Carlton, Gold Coast, st Kilda players give a toss already.

Aussie rules is crap and getting worse!
 
I don't care if Sterling leaves as I've never liked him. But then I don't like loads of our current players. In fact, I actively dislike more of our squad now than I even did under Hodgson.
 
I don't understand the current way in which clubs are managed in England with an all powerful manager controlling signings, youth team coaching, everything associated with the club. I mean football is so sophisticated now it makes no sense for one person to control everything. Also a majority of the managers get fired because of poor signings in the end. So doesn't it make more sense for them to distance themselves from the player purchasing process to the extent possible.

Like if Brendan had agreed to the DOF system, and he had announced on day one that he is not in charge of player scouting and recruitment, there would have been a lot of sympathy and support for him from the fans.

I am highly suspicious that majority of the managers want control over the signings because in some or the other they are different variants of Harry Redknapp - they get kickbacks from the agents for favoring their players.
 
I prefer AFL to football these days. By quite a distance too. It's the closest thing to 'pure' sport as I can find. For the most part, the players are honest and their on-field endeavours are flawless. The pride they take in offering up an effort in performance is incredible. Every single week the vast majority of them put their bodies on the line for the good of the team.

It puts the token gesture efforts of most premier league players to shame.

I get far far more enjoyment out of watching it.


I loved watching AFL when I was out there. It made me wish I'd grown up in a place I could have played it as my best characteristics as a goalkeeper and part time school rugby player was just catching high balls and booting it bloody far.
 
I've said it before, but I believe Ryan & Dreambeliever are in fact a middle aged gay couple, living in a semi in an Adelaide suburb, playing out a soap opera to an SCM audience for their own mutual enjoyment.

I will add to that by stating I am now convinced Ryan and Rosco are the same person

And Oncie is JJ's lovechild

Ha. I love Oncy but that's not the same thing. Don't have any lovechildren as such. Not that I know about anyway.
 
I always spot foul throws and I hate that I do.

Yep. I remember talking about that with you watching a game. It's ridiculous. I was delighted when Casillas got done for it last week. We were thought how to throw the ball at 10 for fuck sake.
 
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