if aurelio is on the pitch he should definately be the one taking corners on the left hand side.
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We need him in the box. It's not even an argument really. But I have to maintain he is our best corner kick taker besides Aurelio. If Aquaman can do better than him in training when it comes to corners we'll be laughing at our two world class talents in the 18 yard box on corners along with Kuyt who does ok on them. Johnson looks very good in the air, and of our CB's Agger can make a nuisance of himself and the Greek lad is supposed to be very good in the air.
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He won't go in the box to compete for headers from corners though.
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I'd imagine he would do what Rafa told him to do .. and therein lies the problem. Only a short sighted bat could fail to see we would be more dangerous with Gerrard in the centre than popping in uselss corners that are mostly a waste of time (when commenting on one game recently he had 4/5 corners that failed to beat the first defender - the fact that 1:10 is a great corner is irrelevant in that context).
He would worry defenders distracting them from our other players and creating space, he would be a threat both from loose balls falling outside the box (shooting, creativity) and from his heading ability (come on Rafa). The current option is Lucas in the centre.
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He's 29, and in the 10+ years he's been playing with us has never competed for headers from corners. He won't start doing so now either.
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Ryan you previously said in this thread that "he feels he's got a better opportunity of getting a chance, or being left free, or getting a knockdown if he stays out of the 'mixer'. Which he did in the Bolton game - spanking the bar with one effort, and scoring the winner with the other ". Now, both those efforts were as a result of him being in a dangerous area in and around the box. That is what a lot of posters are saying. He could be deployed in that position instead of taking the actual corner. He doesn't necessarily have to contest the header/the first ball in, it's the knockdowns and second balls that he can feed off. He showed this in the Bolton game and nearly scored two goals as a result.
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We need him in the box. It's not even an argument really. But I have to maintain he is our best corner kick taker besides Aurelio. If Aquaman can do better than him in training when it comes to corners we'll be laughing at our two world class talents in the 18 yard box on corners along with Kuyt who does ok on them. Johnson looks very good in the air, and of our CB's Agger can make a nuisance of himself and the Greek lad is supposed to be very good in the air.
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He won't go in the box to compete for headers from corners though.
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I'd imagine he would do what Rafa told him to do .. and therein lies the problem. Only a short sighted bat could fail to see we would be more dangerous with Gerrard in the centre than popping in uselss corners that are mostly a waste of time (when commenting on one game recently he had 4/5 corners that failed to beat the first defender - the fact that 1:10 is a great corner is irrelevant in that context).
He would worry defenders distracting them from our other players and creating space, he would be a threat both from loose balls falling outside the box (shooting, creativity) and from his heading ability (come on Rafa). The current option is Lucas in the centre.
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He's 29, and in the 10+ years he's been playing with us has never competed for headers from corners. He won't start doing so now either.
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Ryan you previously said in this thread that "he feels he's got a better opportunity of getting a chance, or being left free, or getting a knockdown if he stays out of the 'mixer'. Which he did in the Bolton game - spanking the bar with one effort, and scoring the winner with the other ". Now, both those efforts were as a result of him being in a dangerous area in and around the box. That is what a lot of posters are saying. He could be deployed in that position instead of taking the actual corner. He doesn't necessarily have to contest the header/the first ball in, it's the knockdowns and second balls that he can feed off. He showed this in the Bolton game and nearly scored two goals as a result.
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He's 29, and in the 10+ years he's been playing with us has never competed for headers from corners. He won't start doing so now either.
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I think Rafa can coax him into doing that. I am certain that if he stays in the box or around the box for corners he will score 10 more goals per season.
He's 29, and in the 10+ years he's been playing with us has never competed for headers from corners. He won't start doing so now either.
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I think Rafa can coax him into doing that. I am certain that if he stays in the box or around the box for corners he will score 10 more goals per season.
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Couldn't find the other thread where Froggy started the thread that Stevie must never ever take corners again for LFC.
So, let me state once again that I agree with Froggy. SG is good in the air. He scored 2, two goals with his head yesterday. He must play in the middle during corners!
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true said. can someone else just take the darned corners for the next 2-3 games. Johnson, Kuyt, Mascher??
Couldn't find the other thread where Froggy started the thread that Stevie must never ever take corners again for LFC.
So, let me state once again that I agree with Froggy. SG is good in the air. He scored 2, two goals with his head yesterday. He must play in the middle during corners!
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true said. can someone else just take the darned corners for the next 2-3 games. Johnson, Kuyt, Mascher??
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He's 29, and in the 10+ years he's been playing with us has never competed for headers from corners. He won't start doing so now either.
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I think Rafa can coax him into doing that. I am certain that if he stays in the box or around the box for corners he will score 10 more goals per season.
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If Rafa can't coax him he should b****y well tell him.
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He's 29, and in the 10+ years he's been playing with us has never competed for headers from corners. He won't start doing so now either.
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I think Rafa can coax him into doing that. I am certain that if he stays in the box or around the box for corners he will score 10 more goals per season.
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If Rafa can't coax him he should b****y well tell him.
Name me one other frontline partnership where one of the prime attackers takes the corners FFS !
Owen, Berbatov or Rooney ? Strike 1.
Van Persie, Eduardo, Bentner ? Strike 2.
Drogba, Anelka, Lampard even ? Strike 3
Torres & Gerrard are our attacking force. Gerrard is NOT a midfielder in our current formation.
Owen, Berbatov or Rooney ? Strike 1.
Van Persie, Eduardo, Bentner ? Strike 2.
Drogba, Anelka, Lampard even ? Strike 3
Torres & Gerrard are our attacking force. Gerrard is NOT a midfielder in our current formation.
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stevie is so good I don't understand why he can't take corners AND get on the end them in the box.
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Yes the legendary Irish warrior Setanta was able to hit a ball with a hurley stick and be able to run and catch it before it hit the ground.
Then he set up a tv station but fucked it up badly.
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Now that's funny... 🙂
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stevie is so good I don't understand why he can't take corners AND get on the end them in the box.
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Yes the legendary Irish warrior Setanta was able to hit a ball with a hurley stick and be able to run and catch it before it hit the ground.
Then he set up a tv station but fucked it up badly.
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Now that's funny... 🙂
Aurelio and Johnson couldn't do any worse than Stevie.
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Name me one other frontline partnership where one of the prime attackers takes the corners FFS !
Owen, Berbatov or Rooney ? Strike 1.
Van Persie, Eduardo, Bentner ? Strike 2.
Drogba, Anelka, Lampard even ? Strike 3
Torres & Gerrard are our attacking force. Gerrard is NOT a midfielder in our current formation.
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Van Persie often takes corners for Arsenal, and Fat Frank takes most of them for Chelsea.
Name me one other frontline partnership where one of the prime attackers takes the corners FFS !
Owen, Berbatov or Rooney ? Strike 1.
Van Persie, Eduardo, Bentner ? Strike 2.
Drogba, Anelka, Lampard even ? Strike 3
Torres & Gerrard are our attacking force. Gerrard is NOT a midfielder in our current formation.
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Van Persie often takes corners for Arsenal, and Fat Frank takes most of them for Chelsea.
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stevie is so good I don't understand why he can't take corners AND get on the end them in the box.
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Yes the legendary Irish warrior Setanta was able to hit a ball with a hurley stick and be able to run and catch it before it hit the ground.
Then he set up a tv station but fucked it up badly.
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Now that's funny... 🙂
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Cuchullain kicked arse.
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stevie is so good I don't understand why he can't take corners AND get on the end them in the box.
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Yes the legendary Irish warrior Setanta was able to hit a ball with a hurley stick and be able to run and catch it before it hit the ground.
Then he set up a tv station but fucked it up badly.
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Now that's funny... 🙂
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Cuchullain kicked arse.
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Yup and Ronaldo took them for United last year
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Nope... its the job of Giggs and when he didn't it was one of Nani, Anderson. Ronaldo is imperious in the Air and stays away from most dead ball situations that aren't in goal scoring range.
Yup and Ronaldo took them for United last year
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Nope... its the job of Giggs and when he didn't it was one of Nani, Anderson. Ronaldo is imperious in the Air and stays away from most dead ball situations that aren't in goal scoring range.
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stevie is so good I don't understand why he can't take corners AND get on the end them in the box.
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Yes the legendary Irish warrior Setanta was able to hit a ball with a hurley stick and be able to run and catch it before it hit the ground.
Then he set up a tv station but fucked it up badly.
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Now that's funny... 🙂
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Cuchullain kicked arse.
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According to an old mate of mine from Galway who was the first to translate the Táin into German the celtic Cúchulainn was in fact from what is now modern day Northumberland.... or was it St.Patrick ... fuck knows i was pissed when i lived in Germany.
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stevie is so good I don't understand why he can't take corners AND get on the end them in the box.
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Yes the legendary Irish warrior Setanta was able to hit a ball with a hurley stick and be able to run and catch it before it hit the ground.
Then he set up a tv station but fucked it up badly.
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Now that's funny... 🙂
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Cuchullain kicked arse.
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According to an old mate of mine from Galway who was the first to translate the Táin into German the celtic Cúchulainn was in fact from what is now modern day Northumberland.... or was it St.Patrick ... fuck knows i was pissed when i lived in Germany.
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stevie is so good I don't understand why he can't take corners AND get on the end them in the box.
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Yes the legendary Irish warrior Setanta was able to hit a ball with a hurley stick and be able to run and catch it before it hit the ground.
Then he set up a tv station but fucked it up badly.
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Now that's funny... 🙂
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Cuchullain kicked arse.
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According to an old mate of mine from Galway who was the first to translate the Táin into German the celtic Cúchulainn was in fact from what is now modern day Northumberland.... or was it St.Patrick ... fuck knows i was pissed when i lived in Germany.
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Yeah, that was St. Patrick ye eejit.
But strangely, I also have a friend who has fairly recently translated the Táin (Ciaran Carson). It is an absolutely fantastic translation.
http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/books/fiction/article2745553.ece
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stevie is so good I don't understand why he can't take corners AND get on the end them in the box.
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Yes the legendary Irish warrior Setanta was able to hit a ball with a hurley stick and be able to run and catch it before it hit the ground.
Then he set up a tv station but fucked it up badly.
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Now that's funny... 🙂
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Cuchullain kicked arse.
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According to an old mate of mine from Galway who was the first to translate the Táin into German the celtic Cúchulainn was in fact from what is now modern day Northumberland.... or was it St.Patrick ... fuck knows i was pissed when i lived in Germany.
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Yeah, that was St. Patrick ye eejit.
But strangely, I also have a friend who has fairly recently translated the Táin (Ciaran Carson). It is an absolutely fantastic translation.
http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/books/fiction/article2745553.ece
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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35745.msg941008#msg941008 date=1252561781]
stevie is so good I don't understand why he can't take corners AND get on the end them in the box.
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Yes the legendary Irish warrior Setanta was able to hit a ball with a hurley stick and be able to run and catch it before it hit the ground.
Then he set up a tv station but fucked it up badly.
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Now that's funny... 🙂
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Cuchullain kicked arse.
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According to an old mate of mine from Galway who was the first to translate the Táin into German the celtic Cúchulainn was in fact from what is now modern day Northumberland.... or was it St.Patrick ... fuck knows i was pissed when i lived in Germany.
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Yeah, that was St. Patrick ye eejit.
But strangely, I also have a friend who has fairly recently translated the Táin (Ciaran Carson). It is an absolutely fantastic translation.
http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/books/fiction/article2745553.ece
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Ahh.... thought as much.
I really love that stuff.
I read a Times magazine supplement the other week when i was back home in England and it contained an old Irish story of some warrior prince of the Fianna who on the eve of batttle on the way to join his troops meets a washer woman down by a river who then proceeds to goade him by asking him what is the nastiest fucker hes had to fight in all of his heroic life.... so he goes on to describe all the nasty magical/mythical beasts he's managed to kill, but with every story she just laughs and takes the piss some more until he gets so pissed off at the bint he gets of his horse and approaches her to give her a good old Irish kicking as he is about to do her in he notices that she is washing bloood out of a set of mans clothes, so he asks her who they belong to, her husband or some warrior etc and she looks at him and laughs and says "o but they are yours ye cunt" and dissapears....the poor hero was only talking to the nastiest fucker possible, a harbinger of certain death, a banshee.
Sure enough next day in the battle he manages to fatally wound the opposing King but dies in the process.
Absolutely fucking nothing to do with Footbal at all but.... I fucking love all that Irish myths stuff.
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stevie is so good I don't understand why he can't take corners AND get on the end them in the box.
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Yes the legendary Irish warrior Setanta was able to hit a ball with a hurley stick and be able to run and catch it before it hit the ground.
Then he set up a tv station but fucked it up badly.
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Now that's funny... 🙂
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Cuchullain kicked arse.
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According to an old mate of mine from Galway who was the first to translate the Táin into German the celtic Cúchulainn was in fact from what is now modern day Northumberland.... or was it St.Patrick ... fuck knows i was pissed when i lived in Germany.
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Yeah, that was St. Patrick ye eejit.
But strangely, I also have a friend who has fairly recently translated the Táin (Ciaran Carson). It is an absolutely fantastic translation.
http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/books/fiction/article2745553.ece
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Ahh.... thought as much.
I really love that stuff.
I read a Times magazine supplement the other week when i was back home in England and it contained an old Irish story of some warrior prince of the Fianna who on the eve of batttle on the way to join his troops meets a washer woman down by a river who then proceeds to goade him by asking him what is the nastiest fucker hes had to fight in all of his heroic life.... so he goes on to describe all the nasty magical/mythical beasts he's managed to kill, but with every story she just laughs and takes the piss some more until he gets so pissed off at the bint he gets of his horse and approaches her to give her a good old Irish kicking as he is about to do her in he notices that she is washing bloood out of a set of mans clothes, so he asks her who they belong to, her husband or some warrior etc and she looks at him and laughs and says "o but they are yours ye cunt" and dissapears....the poor hero was only talking to the nastiest fucker possible, a harbinger of certain death, a banshee.
Sure enough next day in the battle he manages to fatally wound the opposing King but dies in the process.
Absolutely fucking nothing to do with Footbal at all but.... I fucking love all that Irish myths stuff.
It is great stuff. Read Ciaran's version of the Táin. You'll love it.
i'd love to Doc.... you might want to tell him that his link to buy from the Times website you gave aint working though!!
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i'd love to Doc.... you might want to tell him that his link to buy from the Times website you gave aint working though!!
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There ya go. Ciaran owes me a pint.
i'd love to Doc.... you might want to tell him that his link to buy from the Times website you gave aint working though!!
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There ya go. Ciaran owes me a pint.
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Another goal/assist from Stevie from a corner. That is why he should not take corners!
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Agreed
Another goal/assist from Stevie from a corner. That is why he should not take corners!
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Agreed
Who actually took the corner? Yossi?
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Yeah
I've always thought gerrard should be in the box waiting for the corner rather than actually taking the corner not because I think he is a bad corner taker but because he reasonably good in the air and has awareness to pouch the second ball if it drops in the area.
And Aurelio should take them if playing
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