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Judge Jules said:
I was surprised when Hendo took one and suspect that's more the result of other players lacking bottle than it is of him being high on the manager's preferred list of peno takers. (BTW on the subject of Hendo, I've seen that ref have decent games before so it was a disappointment when he and the VAR between them didn't send off the Colombian thug who nutted Hendo's jaw. That could easily have cost us our place in the tournament.)
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It's why I always will long for that idiot movie director John Woo to get into a fight in Liverpool on a Friday night, because his stupid movies don't have any more stupid fight scenes that go on for about ten minutes that defy reality. What Hendo got was basically a really clean upper cut to the underside of the jaw that, more often than not, would knock someone flat out and probably knock several teeth out in the process. I really don't get how some twits were claiming he made more of it than it was.
 
gkmacca said:
It's why I always will long for that idiot movie director John Woo to get into a fight in Liverpool on a Friday night, because his stupid movies don't have any more stupid fight scenes that go on for about ten minutes that defy reality. What Hendo got was basically a really clean upper cut to the underside of the jaw that, more often than not, would knock someone flat out and probably knock several teeth out in the process. I really don't get how some twits were claiming he made more of it than it was.
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Easy now
 
Judge Jules said:
Dantes - do you mean Hendo created the incident? Because if you do, that's the sheerest cobblers. And it doesn't matter a damn that the headbutt wasn't hard - it was a foul and a sending-off offence, pure and simple.
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Hmm I didn't mean that, but now that you mention it...
 
gkmacca said:
It's why I always will long for that idiot movie director John Woo to get into a fight in Liverpool on a Friday night, because his stupid movies don't have any more stupid fight scenes that go on for about ten minutes that defy reality. What Hendo got was basically a really clean upper cut to the underside of the jaw that, more often than not, would knock someone flat out and probably knock several teeth out in the process. I really don't get how some twits were claiming he made more of it than it was.
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I have a two year old - and any parent will be able to tell you this from experience - if you hold a child and his head is front of your head - no matter what age/size if they suddenly move their head back and it smacks into any part of your face - fuck does it hurt. Now consider this with adult men doing a similar thing and the injuries can get really serious. Also when Hendo got booked - I completely understand his reaction - its fucking hot and humid on that pitch, players shouting closing up on each other - the last thing you want to feel is someones hair in the back of your head - it's so fucking irritating. Not joking but most people on this site would have lost it big time.
 
hendo looked like he was bricking it for the penos. But did it anyway.. (it's a kiss of death usually to miss for England)

totally delighted for england, england fans have suffered enough. I don't know what's wrong with me.
 
Southgate needs to show his worth now though. Kane was having to come deep into midfield all the time to make something happen. Henderson was isolated mopping things up, while Dele Alli just roams and is clearly injured. I'd drop Alli and Sterling for Rashford and Dier or Loftus-Cheek.
 
I think Alli and Sterling should be dropped.

Delph in to help Henderson and Rashford on for Sterling.

And he needs to be brave enough to drop a CB against teams who wont attack.
This team is made for counter attacking, problem is no one has attacked us yet.
Sweden wont either. 3 CB against one forward is stupid
 
Lingard and Alli were both useless - you can't just loiter about up front leaving the defence / Henderson to feed you the ball.

Unfortunately Sterling was also very poor and we don't really have many options on the bench.

It won't happen but I'd change the formation a little bit.

Play two of Lingard / Rashford / Sterling out wide in support of Kane.

Bring in Delph alongside Henderson.
 
keniget said:
Lingard and Alli were both useless - you can't just loiter about up front leaving the defence / Henderson to feed you the ball.

Unfortunately Sterling was also very poor and we don't really have many options on the bench.

It won't happen but I'd change the formation a little bit.

Play two of Lingard / Rashford / Sterling out wide in support of Kane.

Bring in Delph alongside Henderson.
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Was my post invisible?! 🙂
 
Oncy said:
I think Alli and Sterling should be dropped.

Delph in to help Henderson and Rashford on for Sterling.
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This team is made for counter attacking, problem is no one has attacked us yet.
Sweden wont either. 3 CB against one forward is stupid
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Yet you want someone to help Henderson?

Agree about Alli and Sterling. Although Alli could be better for the minutes against Colombia.
 
Oliver Twist said:
Yet you want someone to help Henderson?

Agree about Alli and Sterling. Although Alli could be better for the minutes against Colombia.
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Yes. More attack minded attackers and two central midfielders. Kind of like how Liverpool play with a Henderson and Wijnaldum/Can/Milner
Not that revolutionary
 
Oncy said:
Yes. More attack minded attackers and two central midfielders. Kind of like how Liverpool play with a Henderson and Wijnaldum/Can/Milner
Not that revolutionary
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But you are suggesting dropping an attack minded midfielder for Delph. Why? Against Brazil, maybe .But, Sweden? We don't need two holding midfielders v Sweden.
 
Oliver Twist said:
But you are suggesting dropping an attack minded midfielder for Delph. Why? Against Brazil, maybe .But, Sweden? We don't need two holding midfielders v Sweden.
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We played 3 in the middle so far.
Im suggesting playing 2 so that we can have 4 players more advanced. Instead of Kane isolated and dropping deep as everyone else fucks around in midfield.
Neither Henderson or Delph are holding midfielders. Dier is. I didnt suggest playing Dier but two passing midfielders with 4 at the back.

And im suggesting dropping Alli and Sterling not really for tactical reasons but because they are playing like shit.
 
I think the problem will be the same as the one we had in the CL final. The bench. The first XI looks okay, if Sterling is replaced, but the other options during a game look pretty uninspiring, and add to that the fact that St Southgate seems slow and cautious with his changes, well, it doesn't look encouraging.
 
Oncy said:
We played 3 in the middle so far.
Im suggesting playing 2 so that we can have 4 players more advanced. Instead of Kane isolated and dropping deep as everyone else fucks around in midfield.
Neither Henderson or Delph are holding midfielders. Dier is. I didnt suggest playing Dier but two passing midfielders with 4 at the back.

And im suggesting dropping Alli and Sterling not really for tactical reasons but because they are playing like shit.
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Ah, ok .But I think it's safe to assume that Southgate won't change his formation - to 4231 or 433 - at this point. So I hope that neither Delph nor Dier start.
 
gkmacca said:
I think the problem will be the same as the one we had in the CL final. The bench. The first XI looks okay, if Sterling is replaced, but the other options during a game look pretty uninspiring, and add to that the fact that St Southgate seems slow and cautious with his changes, well, it doesn't look encouraging.
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You think Sweden will win? I think England will stumble to another victory by two setpeices to one.
 
Oliver Twist said:
Ah, ok .But I think it's safe to assume that Southgate won't change his formation - to 4231 or 433 - at this point. So I hope that neither Delph nor Dier start.
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I agree. And I did say he wont in this very thread. Shame tho. Its not working.
It may against Brazil or France but against deep teams its crap.

None of our ‘attackers’ raised a flicker in that last game.
I cant remember a single chance for any of Alli, Sterling or Lingard. And Trippier and Young have literally no one in the box to cross to
 
Just realised im discussing tactics. I promised myself I would not do that anymore.

Sorry Oliver.
 
Oliver Twist said:
It's fine. I was out of my depth, anyway.
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HC said:
Ok, Oncy just described Henderson as a 'passing midfielder' i'm out.
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I agree with Oncy and reckon it's high time this meme of Henderson being a poor passer - perhaps fuelled on here by Modo's literally insane vendetta against him - is called out for the tired old prejudice that it is. Passing may not be the centrepiece of Henderson's game but, if folks actually watch what he's doing out there rather than simply revert to penny-in-the-slot assumptions about him, they'll see a much improved passer of the ball.
 
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