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Virgiling on the vandijkulous

Didn't Lukaku say the he was in regular contact with Mourinho in the months preceding his sale?

After the transfer was concluded, i'm not aware they were caught having a secret meeting in some shithole neither has any reason to be in
 
We've picked off four Saints players on the bounce now in a short space of time and we're now looking to add a 5th, and to add insult to injury, it seems we tapped him up fairly openly and let ourselves get caught with our pants down. I don't blame them for being fucked off.
Sorry but this rhetoric doesn't work for me at all. Southampton are a selling club and obviously if we hadn't bid the highest then Saints would have sold those players to somewhere else, or, as they did with a couple of other players, force them to stay another season.

So not only did they willingly sell to us but we, and others, have obviously contributed to keeping them in the black before PL prize money reached it's current levels. They have absolutely no reason to be fucked off (except over VVD) considering how much we contributed to their coffers.

Of course Barca aren't doing anything we haven't .. just in another fashion.
 
Sorry but this rhetoric doesn't work for me at all. Southampton are a selling club and obviously if we hadn't bid the highest then Saints would have sold those players to somewhere else, or, as they did with a couple of other players, force them to stay another season.

So not only did they willingly sell to us but we, and others, have obviously contributed to keeping them in the black before PL prize money reached it's current levels. They have absolutely no reason to be fucked off (except over VVD) considering how much we contributed to their coffers.

Of course Barca aren't doing anything we haven't .. just in another fashion.

Agree. As far as any attempted comparison with the Coutinho situation goes, I may have missed something but I hadn't noticed an LFC press campaign trying to pretend that Barcelona are the only club which acts like this. Being unhappy that such things go on is understandable - we all are - but trying to make a sacrificial lamb of one single club when everybody and his brother are at it is dishonest and unworthy of any support from any Liverpool fan. What's more, Southampton must know how bogus that tactic is, which says to me that it's a smokescreen for something else altogether, which I've already described above.
 
Of course they have reason to be fucked off, they continuously have their best players picked off.

They get humped for their best players every season, we get humped for our best players every couple of seasons. So does that just make us slightly less of a selling club who should be "grateful" for how much the likes of City, Chelsea and Barcelona have contributed to our coffers? Course we shouldn't, what a load of shit.
 
Of course they have reason to be fucked off, they continuously have their best players picked off.

They get humped for their best players every season, we get humped for our best players every couple of seasons. So does that just make us slightly less of a selling club who should be "grateful" for how much the likes of City, Chelsea and Barcelona have contributed to our coffers? Course we shouldn't, what a load of shit.

It's a long time since I've disagreed as much with you as I do on this. As Froggy rightly pointed out, nobody holds a gun to their head to make them sell.
 
Some people are giving the words of Le Tissier far too much weight!

The only one doing that is you, chuntering on about "bitterness". You may not have noticed over in Norway, which would be understandable, but Le Tissier has been putting the boot into Liverpool for years, long before we started signing Southampton players. Calling him out for that doesn't make anyone "bitter".
 
Of course they have reason to be fucked off, they continuously have their best players picked off.

They get humped for their best players every season, we get humped for our best players every couple of seasons. So does that just make us slightly less of a selling club who should be "grateful" for how much the likes of City, Chelsea and Barcelona have contributed to our coffers? Course we shouldn't, what a load of shit.
If you can't accept that there are tiers and then there are tiers in football, and our place in those strata, that's your issue not mine.
 
The crime was the meeting. It went above and beyond the norm for tapping up and there is simply no plausable deniability when you do what Klopp did
To be honest mate, I'd be surprised if the like doesn't happen fairly regularly (albeit not always in Blackpool 😉 ) but we simply don't hear it being advertised.
Who knows.
There is no denying that we fucked up though
 
To be honest mate, I'd be surprised if the like doesn't happen fairly regularly (albeit not always in Blackpool 😉 ) but we simply don't hear it being advertised.
Who knows.
There is no denying that we fucked up though

I doubt meetings happen often, because everyone has a camera these days.

Contact via agents and direct phone calls is par for the course.
 
I doubt meetings happen often, because everyone has a camera these days.

Contact via agents and direct phone calls is par for the course.

I guess Fat Sam's meeting when he was England's manager doesn't count because it wasn't about transfers?
 
The other thing is: Klopp, so far, has only signed one Southampton player. That's ONE. Klopp is the manager now and he's only troubled Southampton once before - deal with it.

Do Southampton want to re-market themselves as a club that isn't a selling club? Great, well accept us then as a club that only signed Mane from you under Klopp. He wasn't responsible for any of the previous signings, so stop including them on your inexplicably 'damning' list of moans and groans.
 
I'm not into the whole Scousehampton thing and think we could have found someone somewhere else. But yeah, of course they're a selling club. They've just grown a pair because of all this extra money rolling around.

I'm not as concerned with how they're handling themselves as us. Everyone can see where we need to strengthen and we're just making a complete Arsenal of it all.
 
That kind of stuff is laughable. And so is all the 'Southampton will sell him to another club to spite LFC' guff. Maybe we should have sold Sterling to Norwich for a couple of million, just to spite City, or Suarez for £10m to Tenerife, just to show Barca. Clubs can't force players to sign with other clubs if they don't want to play for those clubs. If VVD wants to sign for us he'll sign for us and not some other team. He's not a slave. He'll go where he wants to go, and the club will have to concentrate on getting as much money as possible.

The problem with this argument is that Chelsea or Man City is not Tenerife or Norwich. VVD apparently expressed preference for us at some point, being swayed by Klopp's personality and vision. This doesn't mean he will be willing to reject Chelsea or Man City if his current club says that as far as they are concerned he can go there but not to Liverpool (true that they can't just forbid him outright, but I'm sure there are lots of ways to makes things hard), he might just accept the easier route. That is still assuming he hasn't changed his mind altogether looking at our rather unimpressive summer dealings.
 
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To be honest mate, I'd be surprised if the like doesn't happen fairly regularly (albeit not always in Blackpool 😉 ) but we simply don't hear it being advertised.
Who knows.
There is no denying that we fucked up though

Wasnt there talk about Van Dijk also meeting Chelsea and City? He apparently told Soton he wanted to leave early this year.

Soton were accused by Celtic for tapping up Van Dijk when they signed him. So it happens in nearly every transfer I guess.
The premature briefing that went out were it said Van Dijk favoured a move to us knocked every card out of their hand, and is probably what got us in this mess.
Meeting the player etc would have been fine without that, I reckon.
 
Didn't Ferguson used to invite players to his house?
Rosco keeps mentioning Klopp being caught but it was anything but. The dickheads at the club decided to leak that detail while Klopp was away on tour. Klopp did his job/dirty work admirably.
 
Le Tissier was a lazy, fat-arsed footballer who ultimately decided against joining bigger clubs because the challenge scared him and the greater workload and degree of professionalism expected terrified him. He didn't stay with Southampton because of any great loyalty; he stayed there because they left him alone to exist on Big Macs, idle away the evenings in pubs, clubs and wine bars and forgave him for only turning up in sufficient games to help them to stay up. It's a bit pathetic now he's reinvented himself as some kind of icon of 'proper' values, sneering at players who have more ambition than him, greater discipline than him and more courage than him. And he can shut the feck up, too, with his endless anti-LFC whining.

Brilliant player though his 101 goals is a sensational watch.
 
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