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Trent, Salah and VVD

I really hope we give him the Macca treatment when he tries to return.

Also, I hope someone paints over his mural.
 
Meh, there is no need to be bitter about it, I don't think. He'll be 27 later this year and we've had his best years. I don't begrudge him a move to Real. It's fucked that we won't get a fee but I think that's the general direction of travel in football these days and the club needs to also bear some responsibility. They didn't get him locked down on a contract and they didn't sell him either, so it is what it is.
 
Its a shame that most people are unfussed that he is gone.

He wanted to be a top paid player, and he is our vice captain. Yet he has performed well below these levels. Enjoy Madrid, thanks for the glory years and the corner taken quickly. I'd much rather his demanded wages went on someone who will make the club better.
 
I'm not sure when or why a local lad and fan of the club deliberately running down his contract became a totally sound thing to do and "fair enough" behaviour, but it still doesn't sit right with me.

I never hated Macca, or Owen, or even Sterling, and I certainly don't hate Trent, but for me this is way worse than what Macca did back in the day. We never tried to flog Trent against his wishes, we're actually really good now, and he's already got more money than he can possibly know what to do with.

I think we've got a right to expect a bit more than just total mercenary wealth-maximising behaviour from our local players.
 
I'm not sure when or why a local lad and fan of the club deliberately running down his contract became a totally sound thing to do and "fair enough" behaviour, but it still doesn't sit right with me.

I never hated Macca, or Owen, or even Sterling, and I certainly don't hate Trent, but for me this is way worse than what Macca did back in the day. We never tried to flog Trent against his wishes, we're actually really good now, and he's already got more money than he can possibly know what to do with.

I think we've got a right to expect a bit more than just total mercenary wealth-maximising behaviour from our local players.

I don't know why but I never quite got the same "local lad" vibes from TAA as I did from Gerrard or Carra for example (of course, "vibes" mean nothing so well aware this might be absolute shit). Maybe it's because I'm older and / or a bit more removed from football these days. Maybe it's because we're better now and there is less of a need to cling onto to local players as something of importance.

I don't think that what is happening is "sound" but that last point is probably why I don't feel as strongly as I might have done in the past. There is a general feeling that we'll be okay... that the club really is bigger than the player. With Gerrard, for example, that really didn't feel like it was the case. He felt - at the time - as big as the club.
 
Lol, I really hope you didn't bet your house on Trent staying, man.
Cause you sounded 100% certain in pre season.

Will be interesting to see the PR from both sides when this is official. But yeah, thought he’d stay in pre season but that changed around Christmas. His brother is appaz a bad one though. He’s also his agent.
 
I'm not sure when or why a local lad and fan of the club deliberately running down his contract became a totally sound thing to do and "fair enough" behaviour, but it still doesn't sit right with me.

I never hated Macca, or Owen, or even Sterling, and I certainly don't hate Trent, but for me this is way worse than what Macca did back in the day. We never tried to flog Trent against his wishes, we're actually really good now, and he's already got more money than he can possibly know what to do with.

I think we've got a right to expect a bit more than just total mercenary wealth-maximising behaviour from our local players.
I mean Real did come in with an offer in Jan circa £20m if memory serves me well. We rejected it. I mean it was probably payable over 20 years but it was still an offer.

Then he's gone and done his back... I mean leg. To ensure he's fit for his new team

I don't hate him for leaving. But he won't be in that top tier of legends either for me.

His body is starting to fail him in the PL too.

Thanks for the memories Trent. Time to move on.
 
I don't know why but I never quite got the same "local lad" vibes from TAA as I did from Gerrard or Carra for example (of course, "vibes" mean nothing so well aware this might be absolute shit). Maybe it's because I'm older and / or a bit more removed from football these days. Maybe it's because we're better now and there is less of a need to cling onto to local players as something of importance.

I don't think that what is happening is "sound" but that last point is probably why I don't feel as strongly as I might have done in the past. There is a general feeling that we'll be okay... that the club really is bigger than the player. With Gerrard, for example, that really didn't feel like it was the case. He felt - at the time - as big as the club.

Obviously we're all entitled to feel how we do about it, I'm just surprised how many (it's certainly not just you, but probably the consensus view, at least on here) seem willing to just give him a free pass. It's weird to me.

He's hurt the club to line his own pockets. That seems clear to me. For me that's not good given that he's a local and a fan. Perhaps you're right - maybe there was never any principle at play in the first place.
 
Wasn’t arsed 6 months ago, won’t be in a few months time when he’s lifting the title. Why should I? This version of Trent being let go is so much easier to accept than the one we saw between 2017-2021. Having to be babysat by Ibou/Grav and shouted at by the captain for being a lazy cunt? Get the fuck outta here man.

Get Frimpong in who is better in every aspect that doesn’t involve hollywood passing and we’ll be better off for it collectively.
 
I know he thinks a bit highly of himself but next season he'll be challenging Dani Carvajal at RB, maybe Lucas Vasquez if Carvajal's comeback hits a snag. If he's still dreaming of running the RM midfield with his mate Jude, he'll mostly likely have to displace Valverde who's done that RB/ RM/ RW/ CM job for RM with distinction. Good luck.
 
I think we'll miss him much more than some on here think.
It’s undeniable we will wish we had someone to turn defence into attack at some point.

I’m of the belief that we will be more defensively sound and it will require less covering from our midfield who can then contribute more to our forward play. Which will help us win more games and trophies.
 
It’s undeniable we will wish we had someone to turn defence into attack at some point.

I’m of the belief that we will be more defensively sound and it will require less covering from our midfield who can then contribute more to our forward play. Which will help us win more games and trophies.

This is the way.. the 2 x Hollywood balls per game were cancelled out by the 2 x defensive fuck ups.

Will miss the wow moments. But won't miss the what the hell are you doing ones.
 
One thing that hasn't really been discussed is how much this would tarnish the league win, ok maybe not tarnish, but it would be a bittersweet feeling, to win it and then lose these three. Not just in terms of we're losing three world class players, but also the fact that the last league win came with a lot of ridicule (people are pricks), would this one be the same? We're already seeing the "worst side to win the Premiership" narrative being tossed around. This would see a similar kind of playing down, "you won't win another one for a long time", blah blah.

After winning the league we should really see Slot getting the plaudits for doing so well with the squad and not buying anyone, we should hear about how things can only get better for this group of players. Instead all the talk will be about next season and how we'll likely fail because of the loss of such a crucial group of players. When you factor in that we do, to some degree, need to actually make some big changes without the future of these three even coming into play, it all seems a bit of a sour end to a great season, 'if' that's the way it goes.

That will just be the narrative from bullshit trolls and meme merchants that are best to be avoided. The same people thought we wouldn't qualify for the Champions League post Klopp leaving and here we are. We knew we could have to undergo a period of transition anyway. Failing to get them to sign will accelerate things, and it will make people nervous, but the club regularly makes decent decisions and (generally) deserves more faith than it gets. Providing we don't implode, come to any parade and see how many people are stressing about next seasons squad, because it won't be anyone. If anyone can't enjoy properly celebrating a title win in thirty years then it's time to call football a day. There will be some doubts when any party dies down, but that doesn't detract from anything this group achieve.
 
Have to say, I hope Trent doesn't play again for us this season, and I hope we don't do a "bye Trent, here's a plaque" kind of thing at the last home game.

He should be out the door swiftly and silently.

Then do his ACL in the summer, and the other ACL when he's back before the world cup
 
That will just be the narrative from bullshit trolls and meme merchants that are best to be avoided. The same people thought we wouldn't qualify for the Champions League post Klopp leaving and here we are. We knew we could have to undergo a period of transition anyway. Failing to get them to sign will accelerate things, and it will make people nervous, but the club regularly makes decent decisions and (generally) deserves more faith than it gets. Providing we don't implode, come to any parade and see how many people are stressing about next seasons squad, because it won't be anyone. If anyone can't enjoy properly celebrating a title win in thirty years then it's time to call football a day. There will be some doubts when any party dies down, but that doesn't detract from anything this group achieve.
I hope people do downplay slots success and expect us to underperform next year. That way, when we're doing back to back leagues we can laugh at everyone who doubted us
 
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