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Yeah no idea what the clause was but if he leaves for big money I will wish him well. A bit like the united fans and the Ronaldo deal to Madrid. I'll be gutted obviously.
 
Not if the get-out clause he negotiated in his last contract is 45 million or something.

Wasnt the release clause fee dependant on CL qualification or not?
His wife and family seem to be very settled at Merseyside. BR said as much in an interview today.
I think he'll stay. Real are also apparantly keen on either Aguero or Falcao.
 
If Suarez goes, he goes. It's possible but I'm not going to worry about it. Personally I think he'll stay, though.

I know people don't want to hear it, but I still think him leaving would have its upsides. 27 going on 28 probably is a good time to sell, looked at dispassionately. We probably wouldn't see the benefit next year, but £90m or so invested well could buy you 3 players who'll give 10 good years each, as opposed to one player giving maybe 2 excellent years and 3 decent ones.

That doesn't mean I want him sold, just that I'm fairly relaxed about the possibility of it.
 
On Wikipedia, it says that both contracts run out Summer 2015.
Surely if we made our interest known now there's little Burnley can do.

We can loan or swap them Aspas, Alberto, Tex and whoever else needs games and can do a job in the PL
I didn't realise they both only had a year left on their contracts, they'd be daft to sign extentions and Burnley would be daft not to listen to offers now. £15m for the pair would seem fair value and we can loan them Ilori and Teixera as part of the deal.
 
Us selling Suarez because he's peaked would make us very similar to the Arsenal model and I'd hate for that to happen. Unless we win shitloads of trophies in the next few years of course.
 
If Suarez agitates for a move and the money is right we will sell. But id suggest we take Benzema or Di Maria the other way. Maybe Jese or Morata too.

Id say given Bale went for 90m
We ought expect
50m plus Benzema and Jese
Or 70m plus Jese and Morata.
Or even 40m plus Benzema and Di Maria.

Either way lets not get humped.
Their front three will be Bale Suarez and Ronaldo so the rest are fair game.
So Griezmann, Lallana, Benzema and Jese for Suarez. Id take that if we HAD to let him go.
Then use our transfer kitty for Mascherano and Shaquiri and some fullbacks.

#fantasyfootball
 
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FCB willing 2 listen 2 offers 4 Cesc. He willing 2 B attracted away from the Camp Nou. But that's a loooong way from saying he will B sold

Should we be interested?
Just about to turn twenty seven so has plenty of playing time in him still
 
Yeah, he'd be a cracking signing. A big improvement on what we have in Allen and Lucas and he's better than Hendo
 
I asked that question the other week, but I think if he leaves it will be to United. They will break the bank to get him, which will mean plenty of money for all involved.
 
Utds only chance of getting him is throwing silly money on wages. You'd wonder how many players they can have on insane wages without CL.
Hopefully they'll sign all the wrong players and get it horribly wrong.
 
Fabregas is one of the few players that's worth paying whatever the fee may be without eying the cash too much. Anything under 50M and we should be absolutely be involved in his transfer, that's the sort of big money transfer that would actually do us a world of good, not 50M+ on Luke Shaw and Adam Lallana.

At this point in time, whatever any club bar the oil giants want to pay for a player, we can match. So if truly elite players like Fabregas, Reus, or Kroos are available, it does us no good to point and laugh while a rival gets him at a cut rate. At the very least, we should be inflating those transfer fees.

Wherever we finish in the league this season, we've shown that we are arguably the premier side to play for in the world, and we have first team opportunities available for the taking. We need to take advantage of this opportunity and go after targets of the ilk we thought were previously unattainable in recent years(Think Hazard, Alexis, Aguero, etc).

There's a certain amount of importance to playing it smart in transfer, but I think we need to make a splash to sustain our success. Look at how aggressive Dortmund have been since they've achieved recognized success, quickly and concisely wrapping up big transfers for important players like Aubameyang, Mkhitaryan, Reus.. We need to mix up the big signings to sustain success, with the types of smart signings they've made, like Sokratis and now Adrian Ramos.

This is where my ire for Ayre comes in. I don't have any faith that he can quickly wrap up a transfer at a reasonable price without dragging it out. Even in the summer, all of our transfers bar Sakho were "Sagas". If we drag our feet trying to sign important players, we'll absolutely lose out, like on Mkhitaryan.
 
If Suarez agitates for a move and the money is right we will sell. But id suggest we take Benzema or Di Maria the other way. Maybe Jese or Morata too.

Id say given Bale went for 90m
We ought expect
50m plus Benzema and Jese
Or 70m plus Jese and Morata.
Or even 40m plus Benzema and Di Maria.

Either way lets not get humped.
Their front three will be Bale Suarez and Ronaldo so the rest are fair game.
So Griezmann, Lallana, Benzema and Jese for Suarez. Id take that if we HAD to let him go.
Then use our transfer kitty for Mascherano and Shaquiri and some fullbacks.

#fantasyfootball

Fuck Benzema, he's a lazy cunt.
 
Fabregas is one of the few players that's worth paying whatever the fee may be without eying the cash too much. Anything under 50M and we should be absolutely be involved in his transfer, that's the sort of big money transfer that would actually do us a world of good, not 50M+ on Luke Shaw and Adam Lallana.

At this point in time, whatever any club bar the oil giants want to pay for a player, we can match. So if truly elite players like Fabregas, Reus, or Kroos are available, it does us no good to point and laugh while a rival gets him at a cut rate. At the very least, we should be inflating those transfer fees.

Wherever we finish in the league this season, we've shown that we are arguably the premier side to play for in the world, and we have first team opportunities available for the taking. We need to take advantage of this opportunity and go after targets of the ilk we thought were previously unattainable in recent years(Think Hazard, Alexis, Aguero, etc).

There's a certain amount of importance to playing it smart in transfer, but I think we need to make a splash to sustain our success. Look at how aggressive Dortmund have been since they've achieved recognized success, quickly and concisely wrapping up big transfers for important players like Aubameyang, Mkhitaryan, Reus.. We need to mix up the big signings to sustain success, with the types of smart signings they've made, like Sokratis and now Adrian Ramos.

This is where my ire for Ayre comes in. I don't have any faith that he can quickly wrap up a transfer at a reasonable price without dragging it out. Even in the summer, all of our transfers bar Sakho were "Sagas". If we drag our feet trying to sign important players, we'll absolutely lose out, like on Mkhitaryan.


I find it odd that you start off talking about going after "elite" players for mad sums of money and going toe-to-toe with the big boys financially only to follow it up by holding Dortmund up as an example who do none of those things.

They went after the Reus of three years ago (or whenever it was) when he was still a 18M player rather than the Reus of today who everyone would pay through the nose for.

The reality is that we, like Dortmund, will probably still be targeting the Mkhitaryans and Sturridges of this world - players who are one or two rungs below the "elite" (not always in terms of talent but most definitely in terms how desirable they are).

I think you're overestimating both our financial capability as well as our pull. We are a much more attractive proposition with CL football and an improved reputation but let's not pretend we've suddenly become some dream team.

Whether or not our procurement process is efficient or not is a separate issue - it's the same problem (if it is one at all) no matter what class of player you go after.
 
I find it odd that you start off talking about going after "elite" players for mad sums of money and going toe-to-toe with the big boys financially only to follow it up by holding Dortmund up as an example who do none of those things.

They went after the Reus of three years ago (or whenever it was) when he was still a 18M player rather than the Reus of today who everyone would pay through the nose for.

The reality is that we, like Dortmund, will probably still be targeting the Mkhitaryans and Sturridges of this world - players who are one or two rungs below the "elite" (not always in terms of talent but most definitely in terms how desirable they are).

I think you're overestimating both our financial capability as well as our pull. We are a much more attractive proposition with CL football and an improved reputation but let's not pretend we've suddenly become some dream team.

Whether or not our procurement process is efficient or not is a separate issue - it's the same problem (if it is one at all) no matter what class of player you go after.


I mean realistically, who's a more attractive proposition than us? Chelsea, City, PSG, and possible Monaco have the biggest pull out there, and like I said we can't match that. Bayern, Real, Barcelona can match the funds of that first group of clubs.

I think we're in the tier below that. Equal to Dortmund and Juve. I say we're somewhat more attractive than Atletico, Arsenal, Roma. We're definitely a better landing spot than Schalke, Leverkusen, Spurs, Zenit, Ajax, Porto, Napoli, and Inter.

The advantage when competing with that first tier of clubs for targets is that those clubs are already highly stocked with talent. If an elite player is available, we could be at the top of the pecking order just because many of the top tier clubs won't have any need for such a player.

Manchester United are the real enigma in all of this, they're a bit difficult to place. Outside of RVP though, they haven't made a real splash for transfers in recent years, which I think is going to be an issue going forward. They badly need talent, but how attractive a proposition they are in difficult to say. They're going to spend on important players, but they aren't going to be the cream of the crop, and they have to succeed. Otherwise, it could be a very difficult road back.

Of those clubs above though, there really isn't a much better model than what Dortmund have established. However, just on the basis of revenue, I would say we have a bit more spending power, so we need to adopt a more aggressive approach based on what Dortmund have been doing. It's not revolutionary, but the idea is that we should take advantage of this opportunity to build on what we've done this season. We don't need to necessarily buy depth players, we can buy first team players and relegate some starters to bench roles.

I do disagree with the last bit though. The better the player, the more interest there inevitably will be. We got away with our inefficient negotiations on Aspas, but certainly not with Mkhitaryan. If we want to pursue targets for whom we're competing with Juve or Spurs, who get their deals done quickly and quietly, then there's an inherent risk that we'll miss out if this trend persists.
 
Marek Hamsik anyone? Several reports that he's unhappy about his playing time under Benitez, and that Napoli would cash in this summer. Figures I read are €25-30 million.
 
I tell you what we should do, we should stalk Atletico Madrid's scouts and find out who they're going for if/when Costa leaves in the summer. They broadly replaced Torres with Aguero, then Aguero with Falcao, then Falcao with Costa (there were obviously overlaps). So whoever they try and bring in as their main man, we should hijack that deal.
 
I tell you what we should do, we should stalk Atletico Madrid's scouts and find out who they're going for if/when Costa leaves in the summer. They broadly replaced Torres with Aguero, then Aguero with Falcao, then Falcao with Costa (there were obviously overlaps). So whoever they try and bring in as their main man, we should hijack that deal.

Heh true, though the other day they were linked with Giroud. Eek.
 
I presumed he abbreviated to save characters in his tweet but then why waste extra characters by extending looooong? Poor tweeting by Ballague.
 
I'd hire Atletico's scouts. At least those who bring them all those South American talents for peanuts.
Aguero, Falcao, Costa.

Porto's are also quite useful.
 
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