Tom Ince random shite

[hamstrung_pigeon]

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/mar/19/tom-ince-quits-england-under-21s-gareth-southgate

Tom Ince quits England Under-21s to surprise of Gareth Southgate
• Ince had been in line to go to European Championship this summer
• Southgate reveals discussions with Ince and player’s father, Paul
• Southampton’s Matt Targett gets first England Under-21 call-up

Tom Ince has shocked Gareth Southgate by informing him that he does not want to play for England’s Under-21s.

The winger, the son of the former England captain Paul Ince, has played 18 times for the Under-21s and had been expected to feature in this summer’s European Championship in the Czech Republic. But Ince, who is on loan at Derby County from Hull City, has withdrawn from contention.

“I have had discussions with Tom and his dad over the last week or so and he has decided he does not want to be considered for the Under-21s,” Southgate said. “I have to say I was surprised. He has obviously been a regular for us all the way through the campaign.

“But he feels at this moment in time he has got some priorities at club level. There is some uncertainty about where he is going to be at club level next season.”

 

[localny]

So much drama around this kid.

 

[gkmacca]

Always been a cocky little twerp.

 

[cloggypop]

Italian under 21s must be interested.

 

[Judge Jules]

Always been a cocky little twerp.

Like father like son (though TBF I'll bet Ince Snr.won't be happy about this).

 

[jon545660]

Turning down a contract at Liverpool has worked out well for him.

 

[Judge Jules]

Shame innit.

 

[Oncy]

Isnt he starting for Barcelona week in week out yet?
He must need a break from all that pressure.

 

[StevieM]

Baahaahaahaa

To mInce is a dandy fellow.

 

[Silver Sean]

Every time he's in a report it has something about having to talk to his dad. No wonder he's going down the toilet. What a fucking wanker.

 

[Mors]

Baahaahaahaa

To mInce is a dandy fellow.

Freudian slip?

 

[SummerOnions]

This is why you shouldn't live through your kids

 

[ILD]

He'll prob retire before he's 27.

 

[doctor_mac]

His da has been giving him some pretty shitful advice for years now.

 

[gkmacca]

Oliver Kay Chief Football Correspondent
Published at 12:01AM, March 21 2015

Tom Ince has no regrets. No regrets at joining Blackpool at 19 years old after astounding Liverpool with his contract demands; no regrets at rejecting Inter Milan last summer for Hull City, who promptly farmed him out on loan to the Sky Bet Championship; no regrets at telling Gareth Southgate that he no longer wishes to play for the England Under-21 team.

Even by the Edith Piaf standards of the modern footballer, Ince’s Je ne regrette rien spiel has always sounded rather unconvincing. His ability is not in question, but this is a young player for whom one counterintuitive career choice has always been followed by another. Few players had more to gain by playing for England in the European Under-21 Championship finals this summer. As such, few players have more to lose by declining to do so.

Has it crossed Ince’s mind — and that of his father Paul, the former Manchester United and England midfield player — that, by pulling out of under-21 duty, he risks antagonising not just Roy Hodgson, the national team manager, but the man regarded by many within the FA as the most likely, at this stage, to succeed him? Gareth Southgate is not the type to hold a grudge, but, whether or not the England Under-21 head coach becomes Hodgson’s successor, this summer’s tournament in the Czech Republic represented a much-needed opportunity for Ince to showcase and to enhance a talent that, at 23, needs to be tested on a bigger stage before it is too late.

Ince Sr was always tenacious — too tenacious for some tastes — in pursuing the next big move: from West Ham United to Manchester United to Inter Milan to Liverpool and then, in his managerial career, from Macclesfield Town to Milton Keynes Dons to Blackburn Rovers. Ince Sr’s painful experience as Blackburn manager shows that there is such a thing as jumping too far too soon, but, with his advice, his son has continued to eschew the obvious, which would be fine were it not for the feeling that he should be farther on than being a Hull player on loan to Derby County.

At Liverpool they rated Ince very highly, but after he made his debut as an 18-year-old, under Hodgson, in a League Cup tie against Northampton Town, there was a sense of bewilderment when, towards the end of his contract, word came back that he would require a five-figure weekly salary. Liverpool said no and Ince, imagining that he would be inundated with better offers, ended up looking elsewhere before signing for Blackpool — where his father was manager — for a lower sum than he would have earned at Anfield.

Those involved at Liverpool’s academy still reflect on the Ince experience in confused terms. One moment he was regarded as the player most likely to make the step up to the first-team squad. The next he was being outshone by a 15-year-old Raheem Sterling in an under-18 match against Everton and his financial expectations appeared harder to justify.

Whatever the doubts arising from Ince’s move to Blackpool, Liverpool, under Brendan Rodgers, pushed hard to re-sign him a couple of years ago, regarding him as a player who could develop alongside Sterling. That was the season in which Ince excelled for Blackpool in the Championship, earning the Football League’s Young Player of the Year award. The next summer, amid interest from several Premier League clubs, he stayed at Blackpool before an ill-fated loan move to Crystal Palace. Then he rejected Inter to join Hull, saying that he had done so “to be educated” rather than “go to a status club and pick up five or six times more money than you could in the UK.”

For once, this was not just PR speak. He had genuinely made a career choice based on long-term ambition rather than money. It is just that, eight months and two loan moves later, the transfer to Hull looks hard to fathom. The rejection of the England Under-21 team is even more so. There is always a danger with young players in going too far too soon, but surely it is time that Ince decided to go with the flow. After all, it never did his father any harm — not in his playing career, anyway.