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The Torres Bet

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I never said he knew nothing, I said he was lucky, a liar and clever in the way he manipulated fans.

The no nothing cunts are the ones who think a manager is going to make a significant difference to a crocked player
 
I never said he knew nothing, I said he was lucky, a liar and clever in the way he manipulated fans.

It all adds up !

Lucky :Torres will score 20
Liar : saying he's crocked to make opposing managers believe they need to pay no special heed
Manipulator : getting Ross to believe he's home and dry
 
Lads, Harvard Medical Review came out with a new found condition for football fans in their latest quarterly,. Rossanfieldinl 4 Syndrome - Medical condition where fans turns on their own clubs most successful manager in 20 years, picking out every flaw,driven by the disappointment that the success was not continuous, while praising other successful and unsuccessful imperfect managers at rival clubs. It's true, I've seen it!
 
I have a feeling Ross is gonna eat a shit load of humble pie... regarding Rafa, Torres, and his ridiculous opinion on mangers being useless etc..

And from what I hear, he is going to love it!
 
I have a feeling Ross is gonna eat a shit load of humble pie... regarding Rafa, Torres, and his ridiculous opinion on mangers being useless etc..

And from what I hear, he is going to love it!

It's not just my opinion, it's a statistical fact.
 
No it is.

The problem is people don't know how to judge teams.

No, the problem is that you've found one random statistic and applied to some sweeping generalisation that somehow managers are 100% irrelevent.

Which is absurd Ross.
 
Not irrelevant.

With two exceptions they don't have any positive effect on a club when you equalise all other factors. And that over the course of a season there was no evidence that tactics made any appreciable difference to a team.

The game is all about the players.
 
The day Fergie retires you'll see how wrong you are Ross.

He's one if the two exceptions. And a perfect example of how people wrongly judge squads. People think Unitec have a weak squad buoyed by some unknown magical power belonging to Fergie. The truth is its always been a strong squad and all it does is highlight the gap between what people think makes a good team and what actually does make a good team
 
The day Fergie retires you'll see how wrong you are Ross.

Does Fergie actually do tactics? I think he just tells the players to go out and batter the opposition, and if they don't he shouts angrily at them at half-time which makes them play better in the second half.
 
*Not sure if joking*

Obviously he does do tactics. He has been adapting his team tactically throughout his tenure. To begin with he battered teams with a 4-4-2 formation, and then he adapted his tactics in line with trends in continental football. I wouldn't say he blinds his players with tactical information, but there's no doubt he is a tactician.
 
Not to mention his letter to Rafa after the 2005 final in which he wrote his opinion on the tactics in that game, and what he would have done.
 
Not irrelevant.

With two exceptions they don't have any positive effect on a club when you equalise all other factors. And that over the course of a season there was no evidence that tactics made any appreciable difference to a team.

The game is all about the players.

This fact you speak of.... where is it?
 
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