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The Summer of Suarez

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That article was clearly written by a Juve fan, it stinks of arrogance. How great Juve are? The same Juve that was the centre of the biggest match fixing scam in many many years. Juve are a great club, but they're hardly the pinnacle of football like that article paints them to be.
 
That article was clearly written by a Juve fan, it stinks of arrogance. How great Juve are? The same Juve that was the centre of the biggest match fixing scam in many many years. Juve are a great club, but they're hardly the pinnacle of football like that article paints them to be.
They are nearer the pinnacle than we are at the moment though mate
 
They are nearer the pinnacle than we are at the moment though mate

No doubt, but this is the biggest pile of self loving wank I've ever read in a long time. I'd have trouble digesting it if it was about Barca, yet alone a club with such a tattered history as Juve in such a shite league like Serie A.

"“Suarez needs to fully understand the appeal of the Bianconeri, what Juve have represented, do represent and will represent. Juventus are a huge club and do not need to beg anyone, as great players already dream of going there.

“If they were to knock Bayern out of the Champions League, then that could prove decisive for Suarez, who would really understand how great Juve are today

.”"

Just read it, what a sack of horseshit.
 
Greedy agents who are already dreaming of their fat commission trying to provoke players into transfers.
One of the (many) bad things in modern day football.
 
Haha "that's shite, it's like something I'd do".

You know thats not what I ment, its bollocks to consider it as a story as its just an opinion from a Fifa agent whose got nothing to do with Suarez.
I could have written my opinion about it and it would have been just as credible.

Get it now?
 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2013/mar/23/liverpool-keep-luis-suarez

A few years ago, when things were not going quite so well for Manchester United, Sir Alex Ferguson's assistant manager at the time, Carlos Queiroz, appeared to accuse the team's fans of "stupidity" in an interview with the Portuguese daily O Jogo. United had been experimenting with a one-striker system and a lot of supporters did not like it. There had been chants demanding a return to 4-4-2. Queiroz, in response, said: "This is why football is a game in which imagination and, in many cases, stupidity has no limits."

The subsequent back-tracking was immense. United put out a statement saying the comments had been "falsely translated". Queiroz described it as "a blatant attempt to divide the club". Calls to Portugal confirmed the quotes were word perfect. It was still there on the O Jogo website: "Por isso é que o futebol é um jogo em que a imaginação e, muitas vezes, a estupidez não têm limite." Yet United, to this day, insist they were misinterpreted.

This is why it is not entirely easy to know how seriously to take it when Liverpool's chief executive, Ian Ayre, says Luis Suárez's remarks about potentially considering offers from Champions League clubs in the summer were mistranslated or if it was actually just something his club would rather he had kept to himself.

Suárez has previously stated that he wants to stay at Anfield, yet his comments on international duty with Uruguay were entirely feasible, without being particularly disloyal, and it does stick in the craw sometimes when a club rush out the lost-in-translation card, almost as a default setting, every time a player goes back to his own country and says something a little off-message. Almost always it's a cop-out.

It isn't difficult, though, to understand why Liverpool are sensitive to the idea that Suárez might be outgrowing them. A club this size have not lost their ambition just because they have been playing a game of catch-up these past few years and Suárez is so fundamental to the next stage of recovery there is no point understating the significance of what it would mean to lose him. Steven Gerrard was not making it up recently when he rated Suárez as the best footballer he had ever played alongside. It would be a grievous setback, whatever the sums of money involved.

An element of this is hypothetical, of course, until any of Suárez's admirers harden up their interest, but it would be naive to think that process might not be far away and that a club that have, once again, fallen short of where they want to be are not vulnerable when he is playing with such sustained brilliance. Suárez's blend of ingenuity, competitive courage and ability to penetrate the most accomplished defences, coupled with his increasingly refined marksmanship, makes him an outstanding candidate for the footballer of the year awards.

Liverpool have not qualified for the Champions League since 2009, but now have a player who has scored 29 goals in 40 games for the club this season, as well as eight more in 10 World Cup qualifiers for Uruguay (for a measure of his talent, watch his volley against Paraguay on Friday). Brendan Rodgers's team are seventh with 30 games played. After 20, they were 10th; after 10, 13th. This long, uphill climb has left them 29 points off the top. Of course they are going to be vulnerable.

What happens if a big club come calling will reveal a lot about the modern-day Liverpool. Put simply, if they want to challenge the Manchester clubs, or at least get significantly closer, it is imperative they pull down the shutters and make it clear they will not do business at any price. It's just that it is not easy sometimes when there is an elite band of clubs with the financial power, trophy potential and persuasive charms to tempt the star performers from clubs that are on a level slightly lower. Liverpool should know all about that. They did, after all, not long ago once belong to this number.

Arsenal have qualified for the Champions League in 15 successive seasons yet still routinely find themselves in the position in which they have to watch their better players move on, sometimes to direct rivals. Tottenham Hotspur are desperate to be regarded as a serious club but combine this with selling Michael Carrick, Dimitar Berbatov and Luka Modric, and, quite possibly, Gareth Bale next. Liverpool had never really been in this position before until Fernando Torres went to Chelsea and, presumably, they don't particularly care for it. They can offer Suárez significant wealth, the reverence of their crowd and the sense of togetherness that has helped him through the least distinguished moments. What they cannot offer are the glories that potentially lie elsewhere and, as long as that is the case, they run the risk of losing the player who carries their greatest hopes.

Maybe that is doing an injustice to the bond that exists between player and club and the undeniable sense that, ideally, he would love to achieve his ambitions on Merseyside. A personal feeling is that his affinity with that red shirt is sufficiently strong that he will resist any offers this summer and then, if the Champions League eludes Liverpool again next season, there would be considerably less opposition to him leaving.

That, however, is just a hunch, whereas the reality is that every club who can afford him – and, heck, he wouldn't come cheap – will want to know what it would take to change Liverpool's mind this summer. The answer has to be nothing. That is, if Liverpool want to remind us why the Premier League is generally a better place when the team from Anfield are more prominently involved.
 
Actually it's not too bad is it....

He's on a long contract and has said convincingly and repeatedly that he is happy at the club so if he stays then all is good and we try not to have another wank season next time out.

If he gets his head turned then we ask the market value for a player that good on a long contract, if the suitors try a lowball offer we say fuck off and keep him, I dont think he's the kind of player to play shit because of a sulk.....

If the offer is suitably huge and we sell then we go out and buy two or three good players with the money and move on...

Calm.

Personally I do not think we will sell, he is worth 60M IMO, just look at him for gods sake.... a majestic player, a born winner coming into his peak with excellent injury record.

The press may like quoting 40M but they are way off and there have been a number of transfers recently to make the point. 35M for Modric with a year left on his contract, Nasri 20M for a near free agent etc etc...

I doubt Bayern or indeed Juve have that kind of cash. PSG could do it i suppose but whether they are the draw that Suarez would like ..... City could bid but I don't know whether Sheik Mansour has spotted that 1B pounds in 3 years is unsustainable.

I think we should keep him regardless and I hope we will and think we will.

Or scenario 3.... shut the fucking fuck up and then actually go and win all our fucking games all in a fucking row and sneak in the fucking CL and stick two fingers up to the fucking vultures. Thats what i want.

yeah.
 
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In the Red: Luis Suarez will stay at Liverpool.. but not forever, warns Edinson Cavani

23 Mar 2013 22:30

Uruguay teammate reckons loyalty will keep the striker at Anfield but eventually he'll need to play in the Champions League

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That's amor!: Suarez feels loved by Liverpool fans

Luis Suarez is ready to let his heart rule his head and stay with Liverpool.
But Suarez's Uruguayan striker partner Edinson Cavani has warned Brendan Rodgers that he will lose the 26-year-old if he fails to deliver a top-four finish next season to take the Reds back into the Champions League.
Cavani, the Napoli hit-man who will be a £50million target for Manchester City this summer, is a close friend and confidante of Suarez.
And he says the Reds cult-hero feels compelled to stay at Anfield for another season because he is loved by the fans.
But Canvani said: "The fact is that Luis is one of the top strikers in the world and he wants to be playing Champions League football.
"Of course, Liverpool are not going to make it this season.
"But of they don't make it next season then they will have a problem.
"Luis would love to play in the Champions League with Liverpool.
"But if he can't then a player of his quality needs to play for a club where he can.
"I know it meant a lot when Liverpool stood by him through some tough times – and he has a lot of love for the club and their fans."

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Glowing recommendation: Suarez wants Cavani to come to England
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Suarez has been branded a racist and a cheat following a series of controversial incidents since arriving at Liverpool in a £23million deal from Ajax in January 2010.
But his brilliance has shone this season and his 29 goals have put him in the frame for the Footballer of the Year award.
Liverpool chief executive Ian Ayre claimed that Suarez was misquoted during the week when the player claimed he would be open to talk to any team that could offer him Champions League football.
And Cavani's quotes would suggest that Suarez is ready to commit himself to the Merseysiders for another 12 months- despite reported interest from Juventus and City.
Cavani admitted that Suarez is also trying to convince him to swap serie A for the Champions League.
He added: "When I speak with Luis he speaks with admiration about Liverpool and the Premier League.
"He even encourages me to play in England."
 
That's what we should expect and what Suarez deserves. If we don't make the champions league next season, we should let Suarez go (for a good good price) with our blessing.
 
The talk is always about the magical world of the Champions League, as if any team in it is worth signing for, but the reality is, unless you play in it for one of a tiny few clubs capable of making the quarter finals, it's a boring, over-hyped, bloated pile of crap. Loads of players play in it each year, for a few inconsequential games, and I bet they don't have a single decent memory of it. The group games are usually so dire that unless you go far beyond them there's not much point apart from the view of the club accountants. If a genuinely great club, with serious prospects of winning it, come in for Suarez, he'll be a fool not to consider them, and if he wants to go he should be let go. If any of the other many clubs in the competition come in for him, he's looking at a delayed return to the dreaded Europa League and loads of domestic upheaval.
 
True. I wonder how much pleasure Arsenal's players (or fans) have had from year after year of being dumped out predictably early.
 
Wouldn't disagree with any of that but, as long as there's a perception among top players that that's where they want to be, we have to get there in order to attract enough of those players to LFC.
 
We're one of the few clubs with the attitude and confidence to genuinely go out and try to win the champions league. The rest of the teams in Europe are largely a bunch of losers in comparison, who only turn up knowing it's a matter of time before they lose.
 
nealmac, you make a valid point but are overstating it just a bit. Let's be realistic about out targets and our finances. Firstly, we don't have the money to compete with our rivals. There's no way that we'd get Messi or Ronaldo but there are some very good players out there available that are there or thereabouts. Just take a look at the young German national team who are full of budding world class players. Then there's a few in Eredivisie, Serie A and Ligue 1. Its a matter of identifying them and bringing in the right players at the right price. Our timing has to be spot on. Each player has a valuation and sell by date regardless of who they may be.

There's always going to be speculation around Suarez while he is here because he is that good and can still improve. My belief is that he'll stay at least another season before considering his options. Who can blame him? As such next season will be even more important for us as a club. The Owners will need to back BR in the transfer market but he also has to bring in players that will take us to the next level where we can consistently compete in the CL like we did under Rafa. We are miles away from challenging for the league at the minute and need a much stronger squad. Once CL is an achievable and realistic target, then we need to push on and target the league. That we've never won the Premier League in its current format for a historic club like ours is a disgrace and doesn't sit well with me and probably all our fans.
 
The talk is always about the magical world of the Champions League, as if any team in it is worth signing for, but the reality is, unless you play in it for one of a tiny few clubs capable of making the quarter finals, it's a boring, over-hyped, bloated pile of crap. Loads of players play in it each year, for a few inconsequential games, and I bet they don't have a single decent memory of it. The group games are usually so dire that unless you go far beyond them there's not much point apart from the view of the club accountants. If a genuinely great club, with serious prospects of winning it, come in for Suarez, he'll be a fool not to consider them, and if he wants to go he should be let go. If any of the other many clubs in the competition come in for him, he's looking at a delayed return to the dreaded Europa League and loads of domestic upheaval.

I think it's more the fact that to be in it, you're seen to be challenging in the league, to a degree, certainly to a more healthier and competitive level than where we have been recently. And of course there's the money.

Agreed though, it's a load of overhyped and unnecessary bollocks littered with nothing ties building up to what is a essentially a handful of big games late in the day, that usually end up underwhelming & anticlimactic - unless it's us😉
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/ar...mpic-Stadium-ONLY-option-aside-bulldozer.html


Luis Suarez returned to Uruguay and gave an interview in which he invited offers from clubs in the Champions League. He then just as swiftly retracted those comments, claiming he had been misquoted or mistranslated. You have heard this one before.

It is a standard preliminary tactic in the long, drawn-out summer transfer saga. Come and get me, ooh, no don’t, because I never said that and, anyway, I’m happy where I am. For now. As long as the club continues to match my ambitions. But obviously I’m very flattered to be linked with (insert name of major Champions League contender here). It is important to test myself against the best in the world.

And on it will go. Some of you know the words by heart now, fans of Arsenal in particular. And it does not end here.

There will be more confusion, more mixed messages, and probably a resolution around August.

Consider no version of events definitive until then. Liverpool must simply hope that whatever is about to unfold allows them time to make proper preparations for next season. They can ill afford another panicked, hasty resolution, or a second Andy Carroll.
 
Juventus could sell Arturo Vidal to Bayern Munich in order to raise the €30m needed for Luis Suarez from Liverpool.

According to Tuttosport, the Bianconeri are considering a transfer merry-go-round over the summer.

Vidal has experience in the Bundesliga with Bayer Leverkusen, but joined Juve for €10.5m plus bonuses last season.

The Chilean midfielder is much-admired in Germany and Bayern Munich have repeatedly been linked with an offer for the 25-year-old.

Tuttosport suggest Juve could listen to those proposals because the €30m transfer fee would bring in enough money to coax striker Suarez away from Liverpool.

There is another side to the story, as Suarez’s agent is Pere Guardiola, the brother of future Bayern manager Pep Guardiola.

It would therefore be in his interests to see both deals go through.
 
The €30m needed for Suarez?! What deluded planet are they living on. I'm really starting to dislike Juventus and the Italian media, arrogant twats.
 
Juve won't sell Vidal surely, he's been brilliant this Season.

Anyways I think what the article is trying to say is that the proposed €30M raised from selling Vidal would be moved towards the transfer of Suarez. As in they have X amount of cash ready but would need the futher €30M to meet his valuation?
 
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