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The race

Whilst we weren’t at the races last night, neither goal we conceded should have stood and we barely conceded any other chances. Even at our worst we’re not looking ropey at the back.

This is why i fully believe in Slot’s Liverpool.
 
Why are people panicking - did you not read my post when I said Arsenal are dropping points at Leicester? Go back & read it, then rest assured
 
Name calling Dreamie - is that not you acting like a bit of a cunt.

Enlighten me as to what “so much more than 90 minutes rest for senior players” cup games bring.

You’re the one that said you rather have us collapse mentally than physically - Peter didn’t - they’re your words, no-one else’s.

Not my fault you said something stupid and I don’t see what’s outrageous about not “hoping” your team gets beat or not preferring mental collapse over physical collapse.

Yet in your weird head - I’m the cunt.
You deserve it for acting like one.

I didn’t say that and couldn’t be fucked explaining it again as it’s a waste of time when all you do is try and twist words.

I said nothing stupid but you reading it as something totally different to what I actually said is stupid.
 
If Diaz continues at the 9, I'll never understand why. We consistently look worse with him there, ins spite of Dreamy saying we always win when he plays there
It seems I’m definitely in the minority but I think it’s working.
 
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It seems I’m definitely in the minority but I think it’s working.

Tell me a couple of the times it worked please.

Like, the moves where Diaz picked up the ball deep, played one of the forwards through? Or when he arrived later in a move and scored? I mean, honestly, it has worked a little sometimes,but give me the moves you remember, that resulted in good chances and goals in the last few games.
 
It's okay, we're 11 points in front... 9... 7...

We've been here before.

I'm surprised some are so blasé.

"Champions find a way when they're not playing well"... sure... but not week in, week out.
Arsenal have gained 2 points on us in the past 11 games. Zero in the last 5 games. So the crass countdown isn't really a valid observation is it?
 
Let's also be clear here : we aren't a truly great team. But that doesn't matter because there aren't any in this league (or in the CL this year) and we're the best of the bunch as the 7 point lead proves - so far.

Do we ride our luck at times? Of course we do - so does every team. Do we go behind sometimes? Sure. Less than anyone else though I'd hazard a guess.

So if people want to pick holes - they'll find them.
 
I was concerned how we just kept kicking it back to them at the end last minute. Yes Salah was fouled. Yes, too much time was played. Yes we got screwed. But we also were not in control
 
Let's also be clear here : we aren't a truly great team. But that doesn't matter because there aren't any in this league (or in the CL this year) and we're the best of the bunch as the 7 point lead proves - so far.

Do we ride our luck at times? Of course we do - so does every team. Do we go behind sometimes? Sure. Less than anyone else though I'd hazard a guess.

So if people want to pick holes - they'll find them.
I think we could be considered a great team by the end of the season.

Going on 15 game winning streaks isn’t the norm for champions. 3 or 4 wins on the bounce with 10 games unbeaten is the norm. The Klopp vs Dog Shagger era was an anomaly.
 
We're all suffering from extreme PTSD, losing those two titles by 1 point each to those horrible, cheating bastards... But they don't exist (to that extent) anymore, so, mostly because I couldn't enjoy 2020 until it was mathematically confirmed, I'm choosing to be confident and upbeat this time around, because, as Jurgen said back then, if we can't enjoy THIS, why do we bother with football?

I do understand why so many of you are reacting as you are, and I'm not pretending that I think it's in the bag, but I do think loads of you are being overly critical of how we've been doing and overly cautious about our chances... ESPECIALLY as those chasing us are absolutely NOT of the calibre we've become used to being hunted down by. I may be proven wrong, of course, but I don't expect to be.

We'll drop more points. But so will they. And we're seven points clear because we deserve to be. And they have to come to us, which is far more daunting for them than it is for us. There are still ups and downs to come, but I think a more normal service has resumed, no longer requiring borderline perfection to win this bastard league, and I think we'll be ok in the end.
 
It's entirely PTSD. In my lifetime (that I can remember) I've seen is win the league once. I've seen us top the league for a spell for about 9 seasons. I have been stung too many times.

7 points is no buffer in my mind. 7 points is enough of a buffer after the 36th game, and I won't enjoy it a second before
 
It's entirely PTSD. In my lifetime (that I can remember) I've seen is win the league once. I've seen us top the league for a spell for about 9 seasons. I have been stung too many times.

7 points is no buffer in my mind. 7 points is enough of a buffer after the 36th game, and I won't enjoy it a second before
I am totally with you on this, and having conveniently suspended for 2 games, games we could lose sounds about right. To be honest after yesterday, I am not sure we can win the league.
 
I am totally with you on this, and having conveniently suspended for 2 games, games we could lose sounds about right. To be honest after yesterday, I am not sure we can win the league.
Oh, come on... This is ridiculously over the top. Seriously.

"We may not...", no problem. Of course we may not. But "I'm not sure we can.."?!?!?! We were literally ONE POXY FREE KICK not given from being nine points clear, but because that cunt Oliver fucked us over AGAIN, now you don't think it's even possible, never mind probable?!?!?!? This is exactly what I'm pushing back against.

That's absolutely bananas, mate. I'm sorry, it just is.
 
It's entirely PTSD. In my lifetime (that I can remember) I've seen is win the league once. I've seen us top the league for a spell for about 9 seasons. I have been stung too many times.

7 points is no buffer in my mind. 7 points is enough of a buffer after the 36th game, and I won't enjoy it a second before
The circumstances are clearly completely different this year, but I'll not try to talk you around... I just think it's a shame that you and so many others can't enjoy this season (or at least give things a little perspective), considering we all thought we'd be in a battle for top 4. The only people on planet earth who don't think we're gonna win the league this year, is us!
 
The circumstances are clearly completely different this year, but I'll not try to talk you around... I just think it's a shame that you and so many others can't enjoy this season (or at least give things a little perspective), considering we all thought we'd be in a battle for top 4. The only people on planet earth who don't think we're gonna win the league this year, is us!

It genuinely is a shame, but it's how it is for me.

Did you "enjoy" that last match on any level bar the fact that we almost cobbled together a win playing like shit? I didn't. I would have felt relieved and then maybe enjoyed listening to my bitter uncle talk about how we actually played shit, and I'd annoy him by agreeing with him with a smiley voice. But the game itself?
 
It genuinely is a shame, but it's how it is for me.

Did you "enjoy" that last match on any level bar the fact that we almost cobbled together a win playing like shit? I didn't. I would have felt relieved and then maybe enjoyed listening to my bitter uncle talk about how we actually played shit, and I'd annoy him by agreeing with him with a smiley voice. But the game itself?
I didn't enjoy it in the moment, of course not... But I'm talking more the bigger picture.

I didn't enjoy a second of the 2020 run, until the final whistle went at Stamford Bridge that night, then I cried like a baby. Even when we were soooooooooooo obviously gonna do it, I was still waiting for the disaster that had always come, for the previous 29 years. I didn't sing "We're gonna win the league" when Mo buried that 2nd goal past DeGea. I couldn't even enjoy the game I went to that season, in case we only drew, and that let (a clearly already beaten) city back in.

I get the reluctance to crow. I really do. And I'm not crowing... I'm just looking at it like this. We're 7 clear. They have several top players out, have just as hard a run in as we do AND they have to beat us at Anfield. I see nothing to make me think that they'll put together the kind of run that we used to know was coming. We may not be inevitable, like Jurgen's team was in 2020, but our opposition are mere humans this time... I'm not arogant, I don't think it's already over. I just don't think they're going to do what they'd need to to catch us from here.

And I'm making a conscious effort to look at things from there, not from my 2020 perspective. Mostly, because 2020 happened, and we know we can do it now. They don't.
 
The circumstances are clearly completely different this year, but I'll not try to talk you around... I just think it's a shame that you and so many others can't enjoy this season (or at least give things a little perspective), considering we all thought we'd be in a battle for top 4. The only people on planet earth who don't think we're gonna win the league this year, is us!
I KNOW we are winning the league.
 
I forgot the part where Arsenal play Southampton 14 league games on the bounce.

Let’s look.

Forest
Scum
Chelsea
Fulham
Blueshite
Brentford
Bournemouth
Us
Newcastle

They have to win all of those. All of them.
 
You deserve it for acting like one.

I didn’t say that and couldn’t be fucked explaining it again as it’s a waste of time when all you do is try and twist words.

I said nothing stupid but you reading it as something totally different to what I actually said is stupid.

No because it was still optimal to go out to give us the best chance of winning. If we crumble because we are weak mentally I can live with that. If we crumpled because of injury or fatigue because we chased a fucky fantasy that was next to impossible anyway I’d be fucking livid. It’s all about the league first and foremost this season then the CL. Fuck the FA Cup when the league is within touching distance.

These are your words.

You do this all the time - you take a contrary, “extreme” or “edgy” position on something because you think it make you look insightful or thoughtful (newsflash - it doesn’t) or to “provoke debate”. You’re doing it right now with Diaz as a No 9 (when it clearly isn’t working that well).

Then you invariably say something a bit stupid, but rather than qualify the point you double down and go more extreme - every fucking time - it’s almost Trumpian.

Then when you get picked up on it, because you’re more interested in trolling and acting up than actually discussing anything, you’ll start “cunt calling” before invariably having a moan about how you’re the victim of being called names more than anyone.

If you want to run around calling people out for acting like a cunt, best have a long good hard look in the mirror first.
 
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