• You may have to login or register before you can post and view our exclusive members only forums.
    To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

The left back issue

Forums Unread posts
Status
Not open for further replies.
Modo

Modo

A contentious scando
Member
Just some thoughts.

The league starts next weekend and we still haven't found a proper left fullback.
We're fucked financially so, forget the big name signing. Even if Insua is sold we won't find a good enough player for the transfer money. Aurelio isn't fit enough.
Here's my solution:

Play Agger.

He's been played there a couple of times before and he's done quite well IMO.
Remember the game against Wigan? His assist to Kuyt's first goal?
I think he should fill that spot until we find someone else.
Kelly did really well, but it was so obvious that he had a weak left foot.

http://lfcglobe.com/liverpool-3-2-wigan-athletic-video
 
i'd stick Kelly @ LB

Only way the guy is going to mature into a decent defender.. He is already showing signs of class..


Did JC no harm in his early days...
 
Agree. Agger and, if necessary, Carra as back-up. Kelly won't be the only right-footed LB in the Prem, nor the worst of them either.
 
Yeah I think Agger is injured. Id play Kelly after his performance the other night. Its a big step up but he's got a big future so why not give him a baptism of fire. Opening day of the season, Arsenal at Anfield. Doesnt really get bigger than that to get someone pumped up!
 
I think both are going to happen, since we seem to have quite a good number of CB's at the moment.

Those who 'can' play at fullback are going to get shunted there at some point.
 
Kelly for me too. He's strong and physical, very physical in fact. I know it's not his favoured position across the back four but as has been said it didn't do Carra any harm. First team exposure is exactly what he needs to progress. Also, Wilson has played there before.
 
We've got two dedicated leftbacks in Insua and Aurelio, so they'll probably play more often than not.
 
I actually think (or hope and pray) that Insua will be flogged off somewhere, albeit at a shit price.
 
Keni - Aurelio perhaps (though I for one would still start the season with Kelly). Not so sure about Insua - if he DOESN'T get picked, he'll know what his prospects are. Or rather aren't.
 
Won't Aurelio be fit for the Arsenal match? If he is, I'd pick him, without a doubt. I rate Kelly, but Aurelio wins out for both his experience and his left foot.

Insua would be fourth-choice for me, after Aurelio, Kelly and Agger. Hopefully, though, we'll manage to sell the little fat fucker and buy someone more solid than Fabio as first-choice.
 
if aurelio is fit (and you'd have to hope he is otherwise what is the point of our medicals?) then he has to start.
 
There's no doubt Aurelio will start. He is our best option for now and won't be involved in internationals. He is fired up and has a point to prove.

Kelly will get game time and I'll keep him as backup for RB/CB but I'd put a left footer like Wilson as back up for LB.
 
Aurelio is by far the best LB we have and I don't understand people advocating Agger who can do a job but isn't a natural LB. Before the transfer season ends we'll have another LB but for now Kelly is an excellent backup to Aurelio.
 
Kelly before Agger?
Please...
We've only seen Kelly play there for one game against a team that is so shit we honour them by calling them shit.
I also thought Agger was injured but he has been picked to play for Denmark so I suppose he isn't.
Aurelio is the natural left defender but I don't think he's fit enough to start.
FFS we're playing Arsenal. Half of their squad didn't even play in the world cup. They've had a great pre-season.
It's a big risk to start Kelly or Aurelio.
 
We need Agger in central and as Froggie says he's not a natural LB hence a poor choice.

If/when Masher leaves we could apply a little less defensive midfielder alongside say Gerrard and let Agger move into Mashers holding position when in control or when we're ditating play especially at home. Would give us more options on the break and perhaps make our attacking play even more fluid when in possession.

Could we somehow sell Lucas, Insua and Masher a decent prizes we'd be able to buy both young and experienced substitutes whith different attributes to what we're selling. A bit of fresh air really and we could even look a better squad/team afterwards.

I really hope we are in for someone like Coentrao, Luiz or Cissohko for the LB spot. We need someone very good to match our splendid RB.
 
Has Agger ever played as a DM ... I'd like to see if he can handle it (not in the PL until proven of course). He's definitely not slow, good tackler, comfortable in the ball, aggressive, would help us win more headers in the centre of the park, can carry it forward and can pass. Would be interesting to see.
 
[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=41323.msg1150015#msg1150015 date=1281176780]
Has Agger ever played as a DM ... I'd like to see if he can handle it (not in the PL until proven of course). He's definitely not slow, good tackler, comfortable in the ball, aggressive, would help us win more headers in the centre of the park, can carry it forward and can pass. Would be interesting to see.
[/quote]Interesting.
 
I agree Kelly has done more than necessary to show he is worthy of regular first-team games. I wouldn't be at all worried if he were left back against Arsenal.

I reckon we may have another Carragher on our hands here.
 
[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=41323.msg1150015#msg1150015 date=1281176780]
Has Agger ever played as a DM ... I'd like to see if he can handle it (not in the PL until proven of course). He's definitely not slow, good tackler, comfortable in the ball, aggressive, would help us win more headers in the centre of the park, can carry it forward and can pass. Would be interesting to see.
[/quote]

i conclude!! He has excellent ball playing abilities and is good in the tackle where are carra and skrtel are ace tacklers, but not as good a ball players, plus agger dropping into defence could make it an interesting prospect. Would need to be explored before throwing in at the deep end tho!
 
[quote author=Portly link=topic=41323.msg1150017#msg1150017 date=1281176908]
I agree Kelly has done more than necessary to show he is worthy of regular first-team games. I wouldn't be at all worried if he were left back against Arsenal.

I reckon we may have another Carragher on our hands here.
[/quote]

Wouldn't that be just brilliant. Another local lad playing in the 1st team.
 
[quote author=Portly link=topic=41323.msg1150017#msg1150017 date=1281176908]
I agree Kelly has done more than necessary to show he is worthy of regular first-team games. I wouldn't be at all worried if he were left back against Arsenal.

I reckon we may have another Carragher on our hands here.
[/quote]
The first time I watched Kelly play I actually thought he reminded me more of a young Gerrard.

Either way I'm absolutely thrilled with this young bloke and I do reckon he's got a golden future ahead of him.
 
[quote author=cochyn link=topic=41323.msg1150018#msg1150018 date=1281177009]
[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=41323.msg1150015#msg1150015 date=1281176780]
Has Agger ever played as a DM ... I'd like to see if he can handle it (not in the PL until proven of course). He's definitely not slow, good tackler, comfortable in the ball, aggressive, would help us win more headers in the centre of the park, can carry it forward and can pass. Would be interesting to see.
[/quote]

i conclude!! He has excellent ball playing abilities and is good in the tackle where are carra and skrtel are ace tacklers, but not as good a ball players, plus agger dropping into defence could make it an interesting prospect. Would need to be explored before throwing in at the deep end tho!
[/quote]

Hey, I've got an even more radical idea!!! Why don't we play Agger as a centre-back?! Because, y'know, it's his natural position! Wacky and out-there, I know, but maybe worth considering?!!!?
 
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=41323.msg1150123#msg1150123 date=1281190854]
Hey, I've got an even more radical idea!!! Why don't we play Agger as a centre-back?! Because, y'know, it's his natural position! Wacky and out-there, I know, but maybe worth considering?!!!?
[/quote]

Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit! 😉

In my humble opinion, centre-back may not be Agger's best position, because you expect centre backs to dominate in the air, and Agger's heading isn't actually that good.

I prefer Carragher at full back for the same reason but I wouldn't express this opinion if I met him in a pub.
 
[quote author=Modokay link=topic=41323.msg1149963#msg1149963 date=1281172176]
Just some thoughts.

The league starts next weekend and we still haven't found a proper left fullback.
We're fucked financially so, forget the big name signing. Even if Insua is sold we won't find a good enough player for the transfer money. Aurelio isn't fit enough.
Here's my solution:

Play Agger.

He's been played there a couple of times before and he's done quite well IMO.
Remember the game against Wigan? His assist to Kuyt's first goal?
I think he should fill that spot until we find someone else.
Kelly did really well, but it was so obvious that he had a weak left foot.

http://lfcglobe.com/liverpool-3-2-wigan-athletic-video

[/quote]

The game against Wigan, he played centre back..
 
If my memory serves didn't Sami play a few games at DM? Or am I making it up?

In regards as to who should play LB against arsenal - clearly Aurelio. He is head and shoulders above all of our other leftbacks.. It was only the season before last he was named in the EPL team of the year for his performances..
 
[quote author=JimmyK link=topic=41323.msg1150147#msg1150147 date=1281196330]
If my memory serves didn't Sami play a few games at DM? Or am I making it up?

In regards as to who should play LB against arsenal - clearly Aurelio. He is head and shoulders above all of our other leftbacks.. It was only the season before last he was named in the EPL team of the year for his performances..
[/quote]

I think he covered there from the bench a couple of times, but he had played there in Holland quite a bit.
 
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=41323.msg1150123#msg1150123 date=1281190854]
[quote author=cochyn link=topic=41323.msg1150018#msg1150018 date=1281177009]
[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=41323.msg1150015#msg1150015 date=1281176780]
Has Agger ever played as a DM ... I'd like to see if he can handle it (not in the PL until proven of course). He's definitely not slow, good tackler, comfortable in the ball, aggressive, would help us win more headers in the centre of the park, can carry it forward and can pass. Would be interesting to see.
[/quote]

i conclude!! He has excellent ball playing abilities and is good in the tackle where are carra and skrtel are ace tacklers, but not as good a ball players, plus agger dropping into defence could make it an interesting prospect. Would need to be explored before throwing in at the deep end tho!
[/quote]

Hey, I've got an even more radical idea!!! Why don't we play Agger as a centre-back?! Because, y'know, it's his natural position! Wacky and out-there, I know, but maybe worth considering?!!!?
[/quote]

Oh for goodness sake !

There are many players around that have been converted from one position to another - nothing wrong with trying a player out in another position if he has the attributes for it. We currently have quite a few options for CB but Masher aside not a another true DM in the squad. If we ended up with say Defour and, let's just say for arguments sake, Agger proves he could play there in emergencies, then even when Masher leaves we don't need Lucas or the more-than-likely inbound Poulson. Too late by far for the latter as he's on his way in it seems, but maybe not for the future. Who knows, maybe we could end up with the Danish equivalent of Essien.
 
I was advocating giving Kelly a chance at left-back (and right back when Johnson was out) last season. He played much of his loan season at Huddersfield there and gained raved reviews a couple of years back.

We'd have been better off blooding him last season at left-back than Insua.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar threads

the count
    • Like
  • Locked
The futures so bright....................
Replies
13
Views
573
rurikbird
rurikbird
rurikbird
    • Like
  • Locked
Slot – first impressions?
2 3 4
Replies
103
Views
2K
Oncy
Oncy
Farkmaster
    • Like
  • Locked
How good is this team?
2 3 4
Replies
116
Views
2K
Champ
C
Squiggles
  • Locked
Weekends Other Games 31-8-24
2 3 4 5
Replies
138
Views
2K
Mamma Mia
Mamma Mia
Farkmaster
    • Like
  • Locked
Narrowminded.
Replies
23
Views
1K
Hansern
Hansern
Back
Top Bottom