[quote author=keniget link=topic=40731.msg1127250#msg1127250 date=1277659034]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=40731.msg1126967#msg1126967 date=1277633708]
Phooey. I could just as easily turn that back at you two and say you're trying to cobble together any old reason not to fetch Kenny in.
What really "doesn't make any sense" is that stuff about the same candidates in six months time. First of all, six months is an arbitrary limit which keni's cooked up to try and give his argument some respectability. Secondly, neither you nor I nor anyone else knows who'll be available further down the line. Keni almost admits as much himself when putting in that bit about "generally more or less", which is vague to the point of being meaningless. When he caught himself writing that, he should have known he was on a loser with this.
Other clubs aren't LFC. Most other clubs don't have either our level of expectation or the amount of value which the club still embodies. Those few that do have them spend a long time preparing their managerial succession, in a way that we haven't been able to do this time because of the uncertainty right to the end about whether and when Rafa was going to leave. They don't panic and settle for what's there at the time. Neither should we.
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What a load of fucking rubbish.
I picked an arbitrary amount of time because it doesn't matter. As I said, it's generally the same guys going from job to job and given that we, the fans, know pretty much every name out there, you can bet those in the business do and then some. As said in my last post, by waiting we'd essentially be gambling on some big name becoming available or a young talented manager crying out for a big break. Either way, there is nothing to stop us binning Woy at that point in time, who is essentially the interim appointment you so crave (he just doesn't happen to be Kenny).
How long did Barca spend on getting their appointment just right when Rijkaard left? 3 years? 2 years? What? And Inter? And Real? And... the list goes on.
But yeah, I guess they're not businesses of our size or clubs that carry the same level of expectations or whatever other bollocks you're spouting.
Fucking hell.
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You can parrot that BS about "it's generally the same guys going from job to job" all you like. It'll still be total crap when you've finished.
If there were a grain of sense in all that hooey about "gambling" and the rest, nobody would ever bother conducting proper executive searches.
Nothing to stop us binning Roy? Perhaps not if he and his representatives don't insist on any kind of financial guarantees in his contract. Trouble is they just might, given all the uncertainty surrounding the club at the moment.
Real were after Mourinho long before he joined them. Inter's representatives were reported in Italy as talking to Rafa's representatives long before Rafa and LFC parted company. Guardiola had a lot less management experience than Kenny when he was appointed, and questions are now being asked about him there after last season's CL exit.
To coin a phrase, fucking hell.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=40731.msg1126967#msg1126967 date=1277633708]
Phooey. I could just as easily turn that back at you two and say you're trying to cobble together any old reason not to fetch Kenny in.
What really "doesn't make any sense" is that stuff about the same candidates in six months time. First of all, six months is an arbitrary limit which keni's cooked up to try and give his argument some respectability. Secondly, neither you nor I nor anyone else knows who'll be available further down the line. Keni almost admits as much himself when putting in that bit about "generally more or less", which is vague to the point of being meaningless. When he caught himself writing that, he should have known he was on a loser with this.
Other clubs aren't LFC. Most other clubs don't have either our level of expectation or the amount of value which the club still embodies. Those few that do have them spend a long time preparing their managerial succession, in a way that we haven't been able to do this time because of the uncertainty right to the end about whether and when Rafa was going to leave. They don't panic and settle for what's there at the time. Neither should we.
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What a load of fucking rubbish.
I picked an arbitrary amount of time because it doesn't matter. As I said, it's generally the same guys going from job to job and given that we, the fans, know pretty much every name out there, you can bet those in the business do and then some. As said in my last post, by waiting we'd essentially be gambling on some big name becoming available or a young talented manager crying out for a big break. Either way, there is nothing to stop us binning Woy at that point in time, who is essentially the interim appointment you so crave (he just doesn't happen to be Kenny).
How long did Barca spend on getting their appointment just right when Rijkaard left? 3 years? 2 years? What? And Inter? And Real? And... the list goes on.
But yeah, I guess they're not businesses of our size or clubs that carry the same level of expectations or whatever other bollocks you're spouting.
Fucking hell.
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You can parrot that BS about "it's generally the same guys going from job to job" all you like. It'll still be total crap when you've finished.
If there were a grain of sense in all that hooey about "gambling" and the rest, nobody would ever bother conducting proper executive searches.
Nothing to stop us binning Roy? Perhaps not if he and his representatives don't insist on any kind of financial guarantees in his contract. Trouble is they just might, given all the uncertainty surrounding the club at the moment.
Real were after Mourinho long before he joined them. Inter's representatives were reported in Italy as talking to Rafa's representatives long before Rafa and LFC parted company. Guardiola had a lot less management experience than Kenny when he was appointed, and questions are now being asked about him there after last season's CL exit.
To coin a phrase, fucking hell.