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Take Ince or the sell-on fee?

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King Binny

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TOTTENHAM are plotting a move to pip Liverpool in the race to sign £8m-rated Thomas Ince.

Spurs made late enquiries about the Blackpool winger when he was set for a return to the Reds in January.

But Liverpool’s failure to wrap up a deal for Ince (right), 21, has left the door open for Spurs.

They want to bring him to White Hart Lane this summer and have made regular checks.

They have also reopened talks with the England Under-21 ace’s agents in an attempt to steal a march on their rivals.

Ince was named the Championship’s Young Player of the Year at Sunday’s Football League awards and is in huge demand.

Ten Premier League clubs are on the trail of the Tangerines star, who has 18 goals and 11 assists to his name this season.

Liverpool still want him back.

He left in 2011 for just £250,000 compensation.

But Spurs hope their track record of success with players from the Championship will persuade Ince to reject a switch to his former club in favour of joining them.

The likes of Gareth Bale, Kyle Walker and Aaron Lennon have all developed from having Championship potential into established Premier League and international players at Spurs.

The north Londoners reckon they can do the same with Ince.

Liverpool bid £5.5m for Ince in January but that was not enough to tempt the Tangerines to sell.

They wanted more because 50 per cent of any fee is due back to Liverpool because of a sell-on clause the clubs agreed when Ince moved to Bloomfield Road.
 
He doesn't excite me like I'd hope any new wingers we could be linked with should.
I'd just look to get the £4m cut from Bale FC's deal and look for other exciting prospects on the continent and south america. We've also got the youngsters to look forward to in the reserves and youth levels.
I'd have been happy to have him back if we still had him and had loaned him out to Blackpool. Not the case. So onwards and upwards.
 
If the fee was £8m I'd let Spurs have him and we pocket £4m but if the fee's as low as £5m then I'd take a chance on him as it would only cost us £2.5m and we'd recoup that next Summer if things don't work out.
 
The sell-on fee was previously reported as 35% but it now seems to have suddenly jumped to 50%. I suggest we stay put for a bit longer; maybe it'll be 75% by the time the summer window opens.
 
This guys scores a shed load goals from midfield and is exactly the type of player we need.

In The Championship. As did Shelvey. It's a big jump I think. I'm not saying he won't do well simply that the Championship is not a bench mark of talent
 
In The Championship. As did Shelvey. It's a big jump I think. I'm not saying he won't do well simply that the Championship is not a bench mark of talent

True, he has pace and some trickery so could see him and sterling alternating on the wing for us for years to come.
 
I think Blackpool are going to want at least 5mill in their pocket from this deal, whatever happens, and whatever our cut is. He's just won young player of the year in the championship, and he's allegedly played very well down there.
I think they're going to want 8mill and upwards to sell him, which means they'll end up with more like 4 or 5.
I think for 4mill (we give them 8, they give us 4 back), he'd be worth taking a gamble on.
My only concern is that he's at the age now where he needs games (I don't think he's as 'exhausted' as sterling at the moment), and if we buy him and only use him in the cup and the odd sub appearance, he's going to go backwards.
If we were to sell assaidi or downing he might get more games though.....
 
It wouldn't suprise me if his Dad was brought in to Blackpool, to get his son to honour the Extension in his contract to sell him on for an inflated fee. Type of cunty thing that Blackpool Chairman would do..
 
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Didn't know that he had a lazy eye.
 
'If you're talking £15m for Zaha, Thomas has got to be £25m,' Paul Ince told the BBC, potentially risking the wrath of Ferguson who once called him 'a big-time Charlie'.

'If you compare the two, Thomas should cost more.

'Zaha is a fantastic player, don't get me wrong. Zaha's a stronger runner and does a lot of tricks, whereas Thomas is more direct, he makes things happen and he scores goals.

'You've got a kid playing in the Championship who has scored 18 goals. When you look at the leading scorers, they're all strikers, and he's there among them.

'Potentially, I think he can reach that value. If Palace want £15m for Zaha who has scored six goals, it makes you wonder what price he's going to be.'

Ince was last month named the Football League's Young Player of the Year and has scored 18 goals in the Championship while Zaha, scorer of six, made his England debut against Sweden in November.

'You're not going to get it because he's not proven in the Premier League, but if United are paying £15m for Zaha, on the stats you'd have to say Thomas is worth a lot more than that. That's my opinion.'
 
Paul Inces goals equal money reasoning - 6 goals = £15m so 18 goals must mean £45m for Thomas
and using the Ince valuation formula the top scorer in the championship Glen Murray (whoever he is?) is worth a bargain £72m
 
Selling ince that cheap was a massive mistake by us. Shame
It would be if we had a choice.

It was either sell him or lose him on a free. He didn't seem to make a decent effort in the reserves so we got rid. No biggy.
 
Comolli, who arrived at Anfield in November 2010 before being sacked in April this year, has defended the decision to sell Ince, insisting it was out of the club's control.

He said: “When I arrived Tom was at the end of his contract.

“One of the first things I did was meet him and his dad, and Paul was concerned the style of play under Roy Hodgson was not suited to his son, who was a quick winger.

“When Roy went I think we made four or five contract offers to Tom which he kept turning down. He didn’t feel it was the right place for him to stay.

“The last offer would have made him the highest-earning player beneath the first team but to be fair to him I don’t think money was the issue.

“We never released him. You don’t release a player like this, you can’t force him to stay.

“I am very pleased that he is doing well. If they buy him back, good for him and good for Liverpool.”
 
Exactly. He was offered a new deal and he turned it down. So hardly our fault. Not fussed either way about ince. He's about the same level as downing, so not exactly a player to get excited about.
 
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