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[dantes]

you've just wikied them 5 minutes ago and now you're an authority on the matter?

Well, they believe in god and also some wierd demulgie thing/creature created the physical universe.

 

[Skullflower]

Well, they believe in god and also some wierd demulgie thing/creature created the physical universe.

yeah. like plato.

 

[dantes]

yeah. like plato.

For plato it is understandable progress from the greek theology. But thousand of years later, with the benefit of modern science and physics, plato would be thinking more like me than the gnostics

 

[Skullflower]

For plato it is understandable progress from the greek theology. But thousand of years later, with the benefit of modern science and physics, plato would be thinking more like me than the gnostics

the gnostics were nearly 2000 years ago. just shut the fuck up.

 

[dantes]

the gnostics were nearly 2000 years ago. just shut the fuck up.

As are christians. I have no problem with the reasons they came up with their explanations. The problem is they still cling on to them after science

 

[cloggypop]

This is much more interesting than the Rafa thread. Don't think you have quite coverered the dance yet though. How does it work in a gnostic context?

 

[dantes]

That dance is not only sad, it must fucking piss off the defenders to see him act like that. This will have consequences next season where he will either get assaulted or ruthlessly marked

 

[Skullflower]

As are christians. I have no problem with the reasons they came up with their explanations. The problem is they still cling on to them after science

they all died before they got to witness modern science.

 

[cloggypop]

I feel that the dance is designed to remind us all of an old primeval serpent that is in all of our residual memories. Not necessarily a bad thing though. It just is what it is.

 

[Skullflower]

the dance is studge's attempt to mock satan.

 

[cloggypop]

Satan is a far more recent concept than what the dance refers to.

 

[Skullflower]

i'm not gonna apply a jungian perspective on the dance. i'm dealing with studge on his own terms.

 

[Halmeister]

Maybe science is the answer to 'how' and not the answer to 'why'?

 

[Skullflower]

science is great but i get strong whiffs of victorian arrogance about the culture of science. there's this growing notion that science can provide objective criteria for things like moral truth which is just ridiculous.

 

[Y1]

Science is the New theology? Nah. It cannot and will not be the answer to everything.

 

[IGotALuvlyBunchOfCoconuts]

WHy not?

 

[hamstrung_pigeon]

League's top scorers since 1 Jan 2013:

1. Van Persie - 11 goals
2. Bale - 11 goals
3. Suarez - 10 goals
4. Sturridge - 10 goals (5 goals in 3 games without Suarez)

 

[Y1]

It is simply because it is that way. The more science explain, the more questions will crop up ad infinitum.

 

[IGotALuvlyBunchOfCoconuts]

If science can't answer something, I think it's limitation would be man, not science itself.

 

[Judge Jules]

There's no way you can know that, precisely because of the limitation to which you refer.

 

[IGotALuvlyBunchOfCoconuts]

I know, because I don't know.

 

[Fabio]

Damn you man!

 

[cloggypop]

Science can not explain that dance. There is a much deeper and older thing going on there.

 

[dantes]

they all died before they got to witness modern science.

That is good to hear. So we weren't talking about modern gnosticism, that makes more sense apart from why you think I am the last living Gnostic.

 

[Holle]

I'd rather not think about our players thanking God. Too weird for me.

Saw the Wigan keeper praying before the game last night. Then they lost anyway.

Does that mean:

a) God exists, listens but doesn't give a shit what you ask for. So there's no point praying.
b) He doesn't exist. So there's no point praying.
c) You losing is all part of God's greater plan. So there's no point praying.

Answers on a Gideon bible to the usual address.

You don't know what he prayed for.

Maybe he prayed that they go down so his only-for-the-PL-contract ends and he can leave this shithole.

In this case God is good.

 

[Skullflower]

That is good to hear. So we weren't talking about modern gnosticism, that makes more sense apart from why you think I am the last living Gnostic.

i don't. i think youre a poor man's sam harris. and sam harris is a fucking awful thinker.

 

[dantes]

If science can't answer something, I think it's limitation would be man, not science itself.

Science is the practical method of testing your answer. The scientist himself or herself can arrive at an answer in any way they choose. There's no limitation on the answer having to be practical and pragmatic. The answer is simply the answer and its up to you to get it right by any means necessary.

 

[dantes]

i don't. i think youre a poor man's sam harris. and sam harris is a fucking awful thinker.

Yeah right. Two things. 1. You haven't witnessed me think. 2. Sam Harris is as far beneath me as the christians he argues against are beneath him.

 

[Skullflower]

Yeah right. Two things. 1. You haven't witnessed me think. 2. Sam Harris is as far beneath me as the christians he argues against are beneath him.

where's the platonic humility you said you aspire to?

 

[dantes]

where's the platonic humility you said you aspire to?

Its in the same place as platonic ideals science should aspire to. Unfortunately others would corrupt that with politics and selfish ambitions and evil. I cant join them, so I will humiliate them in the name of plato