Sturridge

[Judge Jules]

I think Sturridge is absolutely up for being the main man - in fact I suspect the main reason why he left Citeh and seems unsettled at Chavski is that he didn't get the games, or the prominence, he thinks he deserves at either club. I don't share your wish that we'd gone for him when he left Citeh (confidence is one thing - being *that* far up yourself as a mere teenager, though, isn't a good thing IMO) but you make a decent case for signing him now PROVIDED he's not going to get @rsey about taking his turn out wide when the switching around is happening during a game.

 

[hmmmmm1]

Would prefer Theo to Sturrdrige, the later seems like a big time charlie

 

[Judge Jules]

Up till recently I'd have said Theo does seem to be more the kind of individual you'd want around the club. Lately, though, he's been having a great long hissy fit about playing wide, despite the fact that he's failed to persuade any manager he's ever played for to pick him centrally on a consistent basis. Sturridge has had the same problem at the Chavs, but he does at least have *something* of a track record of playing centrally earlier in his career.

 

[peterhague]

I think £18m for the pair would be good business, leaving aside the cock-up of letting Ince go in the first place. I like Sturridge, the guy has such obvious talent and I think he's one of those players just bound to come good at some stage given the right opportunity. He's just made poor career choices in the past - kind of the opposite of Ince, really.

Whichever poster it was who said we shouldn't go for Sturridge because it'd mean either him or Suarez playing on the wing is surely having a laugh, because that's gonna be the case whichever striker we buy. I suppose we could solve that by signing someone equally capable on the wing as up front, but how many such players are there out there? Our priority has to be to get in a backup striker, his versatility is very much a secondary issue.

 

[Fabio]

And, for the millionth time, our entire front 3 drifts.

How ofter have we seen suarez running in from the left? Or sterling our most central player? Have a front 3 who can do a job on the wing and a job in the middle in the same game is surely exactly what we're after?

 

[Glen C]

Very underwhelmed by these signings i have to say.

 

[Judge Jules]

And, for the millionth time, Fabs, that's not the issue. Of course our front three drift. The question is whether Sturridge or Walcott is going to be up for doing that kind of job.

 

[Glen C]

And, for the millionth time, Fabs, that's not the issue. Of course our front three drift. The question is whether Sturridge or Walcott is going to be up for doing that kind of job.

If sturridge comes, he's coming i presume with a full knowledge of what his role would be. So i don't see how he could come here with a strop.

 

[Judge Jules]

The trouble with that is I'd have assumed the same when he left Citeh for Chelsea. Circumstances change and clubs have to change with them. If that leaves Sturridge playing out wide for any reason, will he throw his toys out the pram (again)?

 

[Modo]

Cant believe Im saying this but Id rather have Walcott. At least he's a boyhood fan and has family in Liverpool.

 

[Glen C]

Cant believe Im saying this but Id rather have Walcott. At least he's a boyhood fan and has family in Liverpool.

Who cares if he's a fan or not. Carra was a blue but that didn't make any difference. Anyway Walcott isn't available until the summer.

 

[Modo]

Who cares if he's a fan or not. Carra was a blue but that didn't make any difference. Anyway Walcott isn't available until the summer.

The lesser of two evils. Honestly I prefer neither.

 

[Fabio]

And, for the millionth time, Fabs, that's not the issue. Of course our front three drift. The question is whether Sturridge or Walcott is going to be up for doing that kind of job.

Tell me how they're not up to it?

Sturridge has done that jjb adequately for chelsea without being allowed to drifting because of Drogba or torres. for us, his darting runs or movement to give suarez space is perfect

Same for Walcott. Theyd be up for the job, are young, and have a fair amount of talent

 

[Mors]

Who cares if he's a fan or not. Carra was a blue but that didn't make any difference. Anyway Walcott isn't available until the summer.

IF, he doesn't go until the summer, and goes on a bosman, I'd not want him. Reason being I can't see him wanting any less than 150k a week, and if we do a 'cole' with him and put him on a whopping big contract over 4 or 5 years, and he flops like jokehole did, then we're knackered, and stuck with him.
I'd rather we buy him in Jan for some sort of knockdown fee (if the arse board will let him go), and have a bit more power over bargaining his wages.

I think it'd be a coin flip out of Sturridge and Walcott who would be better for us, but I think Walcott has a bit more of a proven record.

 

[Mors]

Tell me how they're not up to it?

Sturridge has done that jjb adequately for chelsea without being allowed to drifting because of Drogba or torres. for us, his darting runs or movement to give suarez space is perfect

Same for Walcott. Theyd be up for the job, are young, and have a fair amount of talent

They're capable, no doubt. But the may get offers from teams to play them as out and out strikers, not drifters. And they've both confessed that's the position they want to play. So they may not be up for it in that respect.

 

[Mystic]

Walcott is by far the best choice, he's brilliant. If Sturridge learns how to look up, plays on the left of a front three, and is £12m or less, then he'll be a good deal.

 

[Pesam]

Hooper at Celtic would be about £5m cheaper than Sturridge (because of his contract only having 1 year left) and Zaha ia significantly better than Ince.

Hooper £7m & Zaha £14m > Sturridge £12m & Ince £6m

 

[Mors]

Hooper at Celtic would be about £5m cheaper than Sturridge (because of his contract only having 1 year left) and Zaha ia significantly better than Ince.

Hooper £7m & Zaha £14m > Sturridge £12m & Ince £6m

From all I've heard of Zaha, he is quality, BUT, for 14mill, wouldn't you have wanted him to have done something in one of the top leagues? I'm not saying he's the same, but there have been loads of players that have looked brilliant in the championship etc, come up to the top level and been crap.

 

[Pesam]

From all I've heard of Zaha, he is quality, BUT, for 14mill, wouldn't you have wanted him to have done something in one of the top leagues? I'm not saying he's the same, but there have been loads of players that have looked brilliant in the championship etc, come up to the top level and been crap.

There is always a risk when buying players from lower divisions or lesser leagues (dutch, scottish, belgian etc) but sometimes these risks pay off and I think Zaha will prove to be a world class performer.

 

[Mojo]

I wonder how much Llorente would cost in January?
With his contract up at the end of the season, wouldn't a 12-15m bid force their hand?
Would he want to play for us though...

 

[tony]

I wonder how much Llorente would cost in January?
With his contract up at the end of the season, wouldn't a 12-15m bid force their hand?
Would he want to play for us though...

LLorente on loan until the end of the season for me every time. Doubt we can match the wages and signing on fee he would get elsewhere but would imagine we may have a chance of a loan signing until the end of the season. I for one would be devestated if he ends up at Spurs along with Moutihno. It would say something if we cannot compete with Tottenham for players like this.

Sturridge is a good finisher and has been wasted out wide by Chelsea but I cant see how he fits in with Suarez in the team. Ince is very overated from the few matches I have seen him in this season, surely we could spend that money better elsewhere.

 

[Stulikesdrums]

I'd be happy with Sturridge, I think he looks like a very good player.
Not really sure about Ince as I haven't seen him play an awful lot.

 

[Glen C]

i can't say i'd be happy with sturridge, i'd just be like "meh".. Surely there's better value out there for £12m than sturridge. Rodgers and our scouts needs to look further out.

 

[Halmeister]

Sturridge is a good player, but there is better value for £15m out there, or whatever it would cost.

 

[dmishra]

I'd take Sturridge for £8-10m. I think he has the potential to be quite good.

 

[RedZeppelin III]

as we don't have the money to buy £20m+ players (we probably still need to spread our money to cover different gaps in our squad) we need these 10-15m players to come in , play well and become a £20m player for us . It's what i hoped would happen with Borini and Allen but so far that doesn't look to be the case with them . It seems right now in football £10-15m players are a bit of a gamble , that money gets you a player who's done well enough but still needs to make the step up to top level . So many seem to be failing , arsenal have loads of them , we've a few , and so on right the way down the league to players like johnson at sunderland , ruiz at fulham , ramirez at southampton etc etc .

So whoever we go for you'd like to think we've done our homework and believe the odds are in favour of them stepping up to a top level . we'll see .

 

[Judge Jules]

They're capable, no doubt. But the may get offers from teams to play them as out and out strikers, not drifters. And they've both confessed that's the position they want to play. So they may not be up for it in that respect.

That's the whole point, and I should add that they've both made that point pretty emphatically. Their ability is not the issue.

 

[Judge Jules]

I wonder how much Llorente would cost in January?
With his contract up at the end of the season, wouldn't a 12-15m bid force their hand?
Would he want to play for us though...

He might get offers from teams with a greater likelihood of CL football next season. That said, Brendan Rodgers has good Spanish connections (Vicente del Bosque among others is a mate of his) who might be willing to put a word in. I'd certainly sooner sign Llorente than either Sturridge or Walcott.

 

[Fabio]

He might get offers from teams with a greater likelihood of CL football next season. That said, Brendan Rodgers has good Spanish connections (Vicente del Bosque among others is a mate of his) who might be willing to put a word in. I'd certainly sooner sign Llorente than either Sturridge or Walcott.

then we're back to square one with suarez being moved to the wing or changing our set up as llorente can't do a job on the wing

 

[Glen C]

was watching this little youtube of sturridge vs the mancs and just confirms my own opinion of him. Don't know why we are willing to spend the cash on him.