Strength and Weakness.

[Stulikesdrums]

[quote author=Brendan link=topic=41708.msg1168103#msg1168103 date=1283285551]
Maxi hasn't been 100% fit, so that's one reason why he hasn't featured much

Not convinced about him anyway; clever, slow wingers who don't score many goals rarely thrive in the Premiership
[/quote]

Hleb did alright first time around. It is rare though.
Maxi is also very, very slow so it doesn't look good.

 

[gene hughes]

The more I think about Cole the more I think it's not gonna work out. I want Gerrard playing behind Torres.

 

[Judge Jules]

Depends to some extent how Meireles and Poulsen get on, but I can see Gerrard being needed in CM. Didn't Roy say that's where he intends to play him anyway?

 

[Vlads Quiff]

[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=41708.msg1168110#msg1168110 date=1283285840]
Depends to some extent how Meireles and Poulsen get on, but I can see Gerrard being needed in CM. Didn't Roy say that's where he intends to play him anyway?
[/quote]

Yes, I had taken that as a given

Regards

 

[Sunny]

[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=41708.msg1168090#msg1168090 date=1283284888]
Sunny, teams which are flying can live without a dedicated DM, though there actually aren't many that do. Otherwise they're pretty darn important IMO - for example, I doubt we'd have finished above halfway last season without Masher. I'm afraid I expect us to miss him big style, unless and until we can really start motoring in the league.

Agree about Poulsen though.
[/quote]

Fair point but equally you could say that a decent striker cover would have gained us as many points as Masher saved us, and even gained a few more.

 

[manwithnoname]

Well, yes. We've had this argument often, and the same people always lose, but games are won by people scoring goals.

Players like Mascherano merely make it less likely that you will concede goals.

 

[Farkmaster]

[quote author=Stulikesdrums link=topic=41708.msg1168087#msg1168087 date=1283284653]
3 games is a bit quick make a judgement, is it not Fark?
Give him 20/30 games and see how he settles in.
[/quote]

What? Jovanovic? He's not a left winger and riera is. That will always reflect in their play. Riera gave us a nice amount of balance, even though he's not very good. Now we've a player of similar quality, who won't naturally play particularly wide.

 

[gene hughes]

[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=41708.msg1168118#msg1168118 date=1283286069]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=41708.msg1168110#msg1168110 date=1283285840]
Depends to some extent how Meireles and Poulsen get on, but I can see Gerrard being needed in CM. Didn't Roy say that's where he intends to play him anyway?
[/quote]

Yes, I had taken that as a given

Regards
[/quote]

I can't see Cole scoring >12 goals this season.

 

[Sunny]

[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=41708.msg1168130#msg1168130 date=1283286308]

I can't see Cole scoring >12 goals this season.
[/quote]

Nope agree with that. We may as well play Kuyt

 

[Frogfish]

[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=41708.msg1168083#msg1168083 date=1283284465]
I think we are weaker at LM, (Riera is better than Jovanovic) stronger at LB, and unchanged everywhere else.

Very interested to see what happens at CM, because I'm not going to pretend I know enough about Meireles to understand whether we'll do well with him in the side. That said, another year, another of our best CMs gone.
[/quote]

Jova and Riera have different qualities though both are good at holding onto possession. It remains to be seen if Jova is a better player than Riera, I suspect he is because he's more adept at playing anywhere across the front and therefore possesses a wider variety of skills.

However it's a moot point because Riera hardly played at all last season - so we have an instant improvement in LM to the piecemeal played there last season.

 

[LarryHagman]

We're better off at left back, centre mid is an unknown quantity as no-one knows how Poulsen & Meireles will fare, Jovanovic is looking like a mirror image of Kuyt and will not be as effective as Riera was, Cole will defo play middle as that's probably why he's signed for us and that moves Gerrard out of the position he has seemingly thrived in i.e. behind Torres.

Like most other seasons, I suspect we'll go ok as long as G&T stay fit. When they're crocked, we'll be useless again.

 

[DHSC]

If both Torres and Gerrard starts at least 30 games each we'll finish 4th or even higher.

As for the remaining games, I'm hoping that Babel/N'gog/Kuyt gets the goals.

 

[jexykrodic]

Nobody can say whether team A or B is better, there are too many unknowns; it may be that we suffer similar injuries and suspensions to last year which will effect any teams efficiency.

We can say that Benitez is a better Manager simply by comparing records of achievement.

This transfer window has seen the status quo maintained if comparing player lists.

In the event that we get new owners capable of competing in the transfer fee and wage market then we can have real expectation of something other than treading water.

This season luck will be the biggest factor in improving our league position. Let's hope Roy Hodgson is a lucky manager.

 

[mark1975]

[quote author=jexykrodic link=topic=41708.msg1168275#msg1168275 date=1283320779]
Nobody can say whether team A or B is better, there are too many unknowns; it may be that we suffer similar injuries and suspensions to last year which will effect any teams efficiency.

​

We can say that Benitez is a better Manager simply by comparing records of achievement.

This transfer window has seen the status quo maintained if comparing player lists.

In the event that we get new owners capable of competing in the transfer fee and wage market then we can have real expectation of something other than treading water.

This season luck will be the biggest factor in improving our league position. Let's hope Roy Hodgson is a lucky manager.
[/quote]

Can you ever resist not getting a sly dig in?

 

[StevieM]

The most important signing we made this summer is Peter Brukner.

Keeping Gerrard & Torres fit is essential if we are to have any chance of getting anywhere near a top 4 finish.

Also, while Joe Cole is a positive inclusion to the squad, we don't want him to turn into Kewell Mark II. His injury record could be a worry amd he is another player we need to see the best of.

Poulsen & Meireles must settle quickly and start producing their best Alonso/Mascherano impression. Fair bit of pressure on Merieles to start delivering from the off and we need him to be a good signing.

Time for a few of the young lads to step up as well and if we are going to give Babel one last chance then he has to take it and work hard for it rather than look confused that everything hasn't been handed to him on a plate.

 

[Avmenon]

[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=41708.msg1168276#msg1168276 date=1283321245]
[quote author=jexykrodic link=topic=41708.msg1168275#msg1168275 date=1283320779]
Nobody can say whether team A or B is better, there are too many unknowns; it may be that we suffer similar injuries and suspensions to last year which will effect any teams efficiency.

​

We can say that Benitez is a better Manager simply by comparing records of achievement.

This transfer window has seen the status quo maintained if comparing player lists.

In the event that we get new owners capable of competing in the transfer fee and wage market then we can have real expectation of something other than treading water.

This season luck will be the biggest factor in improving our league position. Let's hope Roy Hodgson is a lucky manager.
[/quote]

Can you ever resist not getting a sly dig in?
[/quote]

It's not really sly though.

The RCDNW'ers will be impatiently waiting to list all of Hodgson's errors gleefully.

They're already dancing a jig because he failed to get in a quality striker,and point to the quality of Rafa..who'd NEVER be that stupid.

Bit hard to clear a path for the club when there's a mountain of shit players in the way.

 

[jexykrodic]

[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=41708.msg1168276#msg1168276 date=1283321245]
[quote author=jexykrodic link=topic=41708.msg1168275#msg1168275 date=1283320779]
Nobody can say whether team A or B is better, there are too many unknowns; it may be that we suffer similar injuries and suspensions to last year which will effect any teams efficiency.

​

We can say that Benitez is a better Manager simply by comparing records of achievement.

This transfer window has seen the status quo maintained if comparing player lists.

In the event that we get new owners capable of competing in the transfer fee and wage market then we can have real expectation of something other than treading water.

This season luck will be the biggest factor in improving our league position. Let's hope Roy Hodgson is a lucky manager.
[/quote]

Can you ever resist not getting a sly dig in?
[/quote]
Can you try not let my opinions upset you?

I call it as I see it. Suck it up, criticise the post not me.

I see Cole as improving the squad, I see Mascherano's loss as weakening it. With the exception of Meireles (who I personally know nothing of) all of the other players are journeymen. I think the balance sheet is neutral. The manager thing is simply factual.

 

[mark1975]

[quote author=jexykrodic link=topic=41708.msg1168290#msg1168290 date=1283323613]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=41708.msg1168276#msg1168276 date=1283321245]
[quote author=jexykrodic link=topic=41708.msg1168275#msg1168275 date=1283320779]
Nobody can say whether team A or B is better, there are too many unknowns; it may be that we suffer similar injuries and suspensions to last year which will effect any teams efficiency.

​

We can say that Benitez is a better Manager simply by comparing records of achievement.

This transfer window has seen the status quo maintained if comparing player lists.

In the event that we get new owners capable of competing in the transfer fee and wage market then we can have real expectation of something other than treading water.

This season luck will be the biggest factor in improving our league position. Let's hope Roy Hodgson is a lucky manager.
[/quote]

Can you ever resist not getting a sly dig in?
[/quote]
Can you try not let my opinions upset you?

I call it as I see it. Suck it up, criticise the post not me.

I see Cole as improving the squad, I see Mascherano's loss as weakening it. With the exception of Meireles (who I personally know nothing of) all of the other players are journeymen. I think the balance sheet is neutral. The manager thing is simply factual.



[/quote]

You're opinions don't upset me as it happens, your sly, repetitive digs DO.

 

[jexykrodic]

[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=41708.msg1168293#msg1168293 date=1283323785]
[quote author=jexykrodic link=topic=41708.msg1168290#msg1168290 date=1283323613]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=41708.msg1168276#msg1168276 date=1283321245]
[quote author=jexykrodic link=topic=41708.msg1168275#msg1168275 date=1283320779]
Nobody can say whether team A or B is better, there are too many unknowns; it may be that we suffer similar injuries and suspensions to last year which will effect any teams efficiency.

​

We can say that Benitez is a better Manager simply by comparing records of achievement.

This transfer window has seen the status quo maintained if comparing player lists.

In the event that we get new owners capable of competing in the transfer fee and wage market then we can have real expectation of something other than treading water.

This season luck will be the biggest factor in improving our league position. Let's hope Roy Hodgson is a lucky manager.
[/quote]

Can you ever resist not getting a sly dig in?
[/quote]
Can you try not let my opinions upset you?

I call it as I see it. Suck it up, criticise the post not me.

I see Cole as improving the squad, I see Mascherano's loss as weakening it. With the exception of Meireles (who I personally know nothing of) all of the other players are journeymen. I think the balance sheet is neutral. The manager thing is simply factual.



[/quote]

You're opinions don't upset me as it happens, your sly, repetitive digs DO.
[/quote]
The way my posts come across to you is your problem. I'll allow that you can say things safe in your ignorance and anonymity because there are no consequences for you. I have no idea why you show disrespect for others opinions. Ignore my posts or deal with it.

 

[Avmenon]

No worries, jexy.

I'll counter every one of your shit posts with one of my own shit posts 8)

 

[jexykrodic]

[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=41708.msg1168311#msg1168311 date=1283325057]
No worries, jexy.

I'll counter every one of your shit posts with one of my own shit posts 8)
[/quote]

That's the spirit 😉

 

[keniget]

I didn't see anything really that wrong with Jexy's post there. Was he getting a dig in?

Benitez has proven himself to be a better manager than Roy and his achievements back that up. That's not to say Rafa was unjustly sacked or that Roy has no chance of succeeding at Liverpool though. He will need a helping hand from Lady Luck, however you'd say the same about any manager at Liverpool with the way things are right now, Mourinho included.

 

[Delinquent]

I didn't really see what the problem with jexy's post was either. Roy will need luck to do well this season, and plenty of it.

 

[Avmenon]

Of course there wasn't anything wrong with Jexy's content; but his intent was more of an issue.

I think his second post was spot on tho.

 

[manwithnoname]

I have no idea what was wrong with his post either. Nothing?

 

[Avmenon]

Nope, nothing, nadda.

Unless you were familiar with his posting style.

 

[Mamma Mia]

Avy's created this strawman Rafa lover who 'dances a jig' when Roy gets something wrong.

He posts about these people all the time, but I have no idea who he is referring to.

 

[manwithnoname]

[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=41708.msg1168368#msg1168368 date=1283330759]
Nope, nothing, nadda.

Unless you were familiar with his posting style.
[/quote]

Which I'm not, obviously

 

[Avmenon]

[quote author=Mamma Mia link=topic=41708.msg1168369#msg1168369 date=1283330778]
Avy's created this strawman Rafa lover who 'dances a jig' when Roy gets something wrong.

He posts about these people all the time, but I have no idea who he is referring to.
[/quote]

We'll see after a couple more losses, unfortunately.

 

[jexykrodic]

[quote author=Mamma Mia link=topic=41708.msg1168369#msg1168369 date=1283330778]
Avy's created this strawman Rafa lover who 'dances a jig' when Roy gets something wrong.

He posts about these people all the time, but I have no idea who he is referring to.
[/quote]

Spot on.