Look I love to watch attacking football as much as anyone but I'm trying to say that it doesn't guarantee results.
Would you want lovely attacking football that ends in second place or football that gets results?
So who do we want/expect/hope?
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Look I love to watch attacking football as much as anyone but I'm trying to say that it doesn't guarantee results.
Would you want lovely attacking football that ends in second place or football that gets results?
Well, you'd look at what managers get the best results with lowest outlay to start with.
admittedly no plan b, but they push the game massively in their favor by spending as much time as possible in the opposition half. when you are that dominant you mostly wont need a plan b. grinding out wins absolutely has it's place and it's served manu well over 20 years but I think we are in a position to say what do we want to do in the next 5 years and go in that direction rather than aimlessly going from season to season in the hopes that everything clicks. I want a long term plan not a short term plan.
martinez is heading over to boston for a second interview.
Yeah, that's exactly what he meant.
The point was there, it wasn't hard to follow. They attack in numbers, I don't think anyone's that naive to think they don't work on patterns of play aswell. When they don't get players forward or they don't follow instruction, Fergie's usually ranting on the touchline.
http://www.theanfieldwrap.com/2012/05/the-anfield-wrap-episode-fourty-three/
good pocast about kenny sacking and potential manangers
good pocast about kenny sacking and potential manangers
I'd place him above any other current manager in the Premiership purely because he has now won the biggest trophie in European football as well as the FA Cup, despite being of the belief that he was in the right place at the right time and didn't particularly seem to change much/ do anything special - he has now got two big cup scalps. I agree, that is exactly the sort of CV our next manager needs , in my opinion.
Oh the above breaks my heart, I remember Graham`s teams and they will were horrible, dirty as hell sure they won but would hate to see Liverpool play that way...The reason I don`t want Rafa is that although the man loves the club I was never a huge fan of his style of football. In 09 he lifted the shackles off the team when it was too late, and that cost us the title.
I would take a punt on AVB or Martinez as the list is getting shorter every day, maybe the club will surprise us with the appointment of someone we weren`t expecting but please not Capello...If they appoint the GM (Director of Football) in the next week or two and he is vastly experienced I think they will then go for the likes of AVB or Martinez.
I don`t believe in results over style, both should work in tandem, that is why people love the Liverpool of 70`s instead of that horrible Leeds team. Why we all are love Barcelona and still talk about Dutch football and the imprint it made on the modern game.
I don`t want success with puke football
to be fair to rafa he also achieved 86 points which let's be honest here, in most seasons would have been enough to win the league
Bullshit? Ross, you've accredited me with the criteria that I'm "judging managers by" despite me offering nothing of the sort.
If I cared about winning cup trophies as the only criteria, I wouldn't have sang from the rooftops about getting Dalglish out the door.
It's one factor. Out of many.
The taw podcast isn't bad, though Tony Evans annoys me, shame as I loved his book.
They are pro sos to a point, but it's telling in the cast before this 42 the majority (just.) of the panel wanted kenny out but had grave concerns about FSG's ability to replace him.
Similar to this forum I believe.
They are pro sos to a point, but it's telling in the cast before this 42 the majority (just.) of the panel wanted kenny out but had grave concerns about FSG's ability to replace him.
Similar to this forum I believe.
Every successful Liverpool team ever - dour, grinding victories with no sexy attacking football in sight.
That's half the story at best. In the glory days we could, and did, play either way depending on circs.at the time.
It shouldn't be a factor at all.
No they weren't. Peoples memories might be tarnished and many have us dressed up as an attacking side, but we weren't dour. We dug out victories when we had to and romped a fair few times too. Dalglish's infamous side was one of the best attacking sides I've seen.
So no, not every successful Liverpool team ever was dour, infact, not many of them were. We were winners and we had balance and most of our more eye catching players were also capable of putting up a fight.
Fortress Anfield was reduced to a supermarket where most teams rocked up and got away with the goods. Substance over style. Results first to get into the top 4. However, I do believe that if ever the time was right to implement a footballing identity, theres no time like the present. We haven't yet won the Premiership, so if the defensive approach hasn't worked, the time is now to switch up.
I think Martinez has the edge over AVB simply because he has experience of working on a shoe string budget and getting his teams to play expansive football if you can call it that. With a second interview happening he looks the favourite.
I don't want either, but if it *has* to be a choice between those two I'd prefer Martinez also.
Unfortunately JJ, we don't get to choose this time around. They gave us KK and the romance quickly wore off.
That's true, but IMO there are better choices out there than either Martinez or (especially) AVB. I'll get behind whoever we do appoint though.
rafa is leading every poll but I don't think he is being considered.
Could you please expand on what you mean by "us"?
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