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So, Joe Allen...

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Gerry_A_Trick said:
Not if someone offers them more than that too. It's happened in the past, I just can't be bothered digging out examples. All it does is say we can now talk to Allen, and if he agrees to join and nobody else offers more, then we can get him.
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Stop being lazy! Find the example please ... I'm curious.
 
LeTallecWiz said:
They have to accept the 15 million bids though -- the release clause has been activated.
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No, they just have to allow a club to talk to him. Before that they could just flat refuse. Now we can talk to him and anyone who offers that or more can too. If someone comes in and offers 20m for him, he'll go to them.
 
Gerry_A_Trick said:
No, they just have to allow a club to talk to him. Before that they could just flat refuse. Now we can talk to him and anyone who offers that or more can too. If someone comes in and offers 20m for him, he'll go to them.
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Are you sure this is right Gerry?

My reading of it is that if a player has a release clause in his contract he can go to any club that offers that amount. All he has to choose is which club offers him the best deal. For example we could offer £15M to Swansea and the best terms to Allen. He would not have to go to a club that offered £20M but worse terms
 
Jack D Rips said:
Are you sure this is right Gerry?

My reading of it is that if a player has a release clause in his contract he can go to any club that offers that amount. All he has to choose is which club offers him the best deal. For example we could offer £15M to Swansea and the best terms to Allen. He would not have to go to a club that offered £20M but worse terms
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I'm not sure it's fact. But I bet it's what will happen.
 
The release clause mean they have to automatically accept the bid and allow him to talk to us.
If someone bid 20 mill ( a club not in the release clause list) it doesnt really matter, he can join whichevet teams he wants to who has gotten a bid accepted.
 
A release clause is a release clause. The only thing I can see making it difficult is Swansea getting arsey about the release clause leak and us going against the initial agreement of not approaching them (despite the loophole we've exploited).
 
Bradley said:
Why would anybody go above £15 million though?

It's not even worth thinking about.
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I'm a big fan of his but NO I wouldn't pay over £15m for him. He's got a lot of potential and he will almost certainly improve us but it's not 100% guaranteed he will. He has only had one season at the top level and he still has to prove he can cut at at the top end (hopefully) of the EPL. I think £15 is a fair price for both teams.
 
The latest minimum fee clause being activated I've read about happened last month.

Burak Yilmaz to Galatasaray for €5m.

Any what about Fenerbache and Kuyt?

Weren't Newcastle sweating on the £7m release clause in Ba's contract until it expired last month?
 
If there's a release clause only a fucking retarded club would offer more.
Allen can leave for any club that meets the release clause
 
Pesam said:
I'm a big fan of his but NO I wouldn't pay over £15m for him. He's got a lot of potential and he will almost certainly improve us but it's not 100% guaranteed he will. He has only had one season at the top level and he still has to prove he can cut at at the top end (hopefully) of the EPL. I think £15 is a fair price for both teams.
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Sorry, I was trying make the point that Rosco:

Rosco said:
If there's a release clause only a fucking retarded club would offer more.
Allen can leave for any club that meets the release clause
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Some player/agent's gain are linked to transfer fees/profits though. Wasn't Jan Vertonghen rumoured to be entitled to a 15% cut of any transfer fee that Ajax received for him? Agent's commissions are based on % of net transfer fees too.

Another example is Zabaleta.

"City have already entered into talks with their Primera Liga counterparts regarding the midfielder.

The fee involved is rumoured to be around 8million euros (£6.4m), with the Argentine thought to have a clause in his contract which is activated once that figure is offered.

Should Espanyol be forced into a sale, the Catalan club will also have to hand 50 per cent of the fee over to Zabaleta's advisor Marcelo Arguello."
 
I like the player a lot, but I'm not sure we should be paying 15 million. As someone said, I really won't be able to stomach another expensive failure.
 
I guess we'd almost be able to get hold of a player like Eriksen for a fee in that region so this Allen bloke better be GOOD.
 
He is good IMO, but I'm not sure we wouldn't be able to bag the likes of Clasie and Strootman (who're both probably bigger talents) for cheaper.
 
dmishra said:
He is good IMO, but I'm not sure we wouldn't be able to bag the likes of Clasie and Strootman (who're both probably bigger talents) for cheaper.
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None of those are of the same class of Eriksen mind. Let's aim for the top.
 
Rodgers is trying to get his midfield (the most important bit of the system) tied down with young players so we're set for years.

It makes sense to bring in a young talented player in this key position that he KNOWS will play in his way over a player who may not fit in IMO.
 
FoxForceFive said:
Rodgers is trying to get his midfield (the most important bit of the system) tied down with young players so we're set for years.

It makes sense to bring in a young talented player in this key position that he KNOWS will play in his way over a player who may not fit in IMO.
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I agree. Allen sounds the obvious candidate indeed.
 
Back in october. Been out for over a year now. Shame as he's a wonderful footballer
 
JOE ALLEN has told Swansea City he is ready to complete a record-breaking move to Liverpool FC.

The Wales midfielder is set for a £15m move to Anfield after former Swans boss Brendan Rodgers told his former employers he is prepared to meet the buy-out clause the 22-year-old's contract.

Allen trained with Swansea this morning, but has told both club chairman Jenkins and manager Michael Laudrup of his intention to take up the offer of being reunited with Rodgers.

It will bring an end to a summer of speculation over the Team GB playmaker and make him the costliest Welsh player in history, the £15m fee larger than the £14m Manchester City paid West Ham for Allen's Olympic teammate Craig Bellamy in 2009.

It represents a huge blow for Swansea who had seen Narbeth-born Allen as a key player in their progress as a Premier League club, the youth-team product having signed a four-year deal last summer.

However, in that contract existed a release clause that would be triggered at £15m by a selection of clubs, Swansea powerless if that figure was reached.

It was on this technicality that Rodgers was able to get around a 12-month "player protection" agreement made when he quit the Liberty for Anfield in May. The Northern Irishman confirmed himself at the time of his move he was unable to make moves for Swansea players unless they were made available for sale.

But despite Swansea citing that agreement when they angrily rejected a £12.5m offer at the end of last month from Liverpool, they had long accepted the young midfielder would be on his way once the offer was upped.

Manager Laudrup had called for a swift end to the saga earlier this week following Allen's return to the club after his Olympics involvement, stressing he would speak to the player for his opinion on the move but warned that Liverpool would need to hit that £15m figure.

Liverpool are yet to make that offer in writing, but have verbally indicated that they are now ready to make the deal happen.

Spurs had been touted as potential suitors of Allen, who made his Swansea debut at the age of 16 in 2007 and wowed observers in his maiden Premier League campaign.

But Liverpool were always the more likely to push through a deal because of Rodgers' long-standing admiration for the player who he will believe is key to helping him implement his style on the Liverpool side.

Swansea will be in no rush to find a replacement for Allen with Jonathan de Guzman used in his central role in the 4-2 friendly win over Blackpool in midweek, although they have registered an interest in Bolton midfielder Mark Davies.
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Big decision for him to move here as a manc fan. More or less ruling out the possibility of him ever joining them. I just hope united stay out of it
 
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