[quote author=Brendan link=topic=42171.msg1190434#msg1190434 date=1286392296]
I like Headwand now!
[/quote]
Que?
I like Headwand now!
[/quote]
Que?
So how many on here owe an apology??
- Thread starter muppa
- Start date
- Latest activity Latest activity:
- Status
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=42171.msg1190434#msg1190434 date=1286392296]
I like Headwand now!
[/quote]
You *are* Headwand now!
I like Headwand now!
[/quote]
You *are* Headwand now!
Oh
What's not to like about Headwand? Apart from personality and opinions obviously.
I just think a few people accidentally got sucked into RAWK's mass hysteria
regards
regards
None of them bothered me that much. They came across as Proffesionals here to do a job...
Gillett didnt piss me off THAT much either.. Hicks on the other hand just reminded me of that cowboy oil tycoon off the Simpsons.
Gillett didnt piss me off THAT much either.. Hicks on the other hand just reminded me of that cowboy oil tycoon off the Simpsons.
I was confident that Broughton would put his reputation first before allegiance to the Chavs. After all he is only a fan of theirs. While his oft silence on the sale wasn't in our best interest and he was widely vilified, I always thought that he would put our long-term future at the top of any agenda.
I have nothing but repsect for the Board for doing the right thing. Long may we live on and WIN silverware!
I have nothing but repsect for the Board for doing the right thing. Long may we live on and WIN silverware!
Maybe Broughton did it for the money, and maybe Purslow did it to save his job.
However they have actually taken the war, and fought it. They seem to have been able to fight down the opposition while keeping their integrity in order.
If just more of our players had followed that, we would have been top three and not bottom three by now.
However they have actually taken the war, and fought it. They seem to have been able to fight down the opposition while keeping their integrity in order.
If just more of our players had followed that, we would have been top three and not bottom three by now.
This takeover feels more like a stay of execution than a reprieve. I can't see us being in a much better place than we are now a few years down the line - but that's no reflection on the board, who seem to have done an ace job just to get us to this position considering the amount of flak they got from the yanks on one side and the impotent fury of the poor (SoS) on the other.
I agree that while Henry will doubtless be an improvement on H & G, he is buying the club as a business proposition, rather than a way of frittering away $ zillions of oil money (Man City) or distancing the owner from the KGB (Chelsea). So from the point of view of the fans, Henry isn't as good, as he won't be spending silly money in the transfer market.
[quote author=RolandG link=topic=42171.msg1190726#msg1190726 date=1286434598]
I was confident that Broughton would put his reputation first before allegiance to the Chavs. After all he is only a fan of theirs. While his oft silence on the sale wasn't in our best interest and he was widely vilified, I always thought that he would put our long-term future at the top of any agenda.
I have nothing but repsect for the Board for doing the right thing. Long may we live on and WIN silverware!
[/quote]
Have to disagree with point around Broughtons silence mate. I think it was in our best interest and certainly not in the interests of the two twats. Broughton appears to have played his hand very coyly.
I was confident that Broughton would put his reputation first before allegiance to the Chavs. After all he is only a fan of theirs. While his oft silence on the sale wasn't in our best interest and he was widely vilified, I always thought that he would put our long-term future at the top of any agenda.
I have nothing but repsect for the Board for doing the right thing. Long may we live on and WIN silverware!
[/quote]
Have to disagree with point around Broughtons silence mate. I think it was in our best interest and certainly not in the interests of the two twats. Broughton appears to have played his hand very coyly.
If he runs it like he's run the Red Sox, we'll not be complaining...
In a league where EVERYBODY spends less than those Bronx cnuts, we've had the next largest payroll for years. He's also developed the youth (farm) system brilliantly (by allowing 'baseball people' to do their things withour interference. He also listened to the local outcry when tearing down Fenway to build a bigger, better stadium somewhere else was allegedly the only option for them.
Boston is the ONLY place I've ever seen where the people love their (baseball) team like we love our Reds. It's a religion up there, with generations of fans living and dying on every single pitch - They're fanatical.
He's won the backing and support of the toughest, most fervant fans in America, by doing what he said he'd do, investing in the team, growing the brand and simply winning.
IF he does here what he's done there, we'll be satisfied with the new owners.
I'm optimistic.
In a league where EVERYBODY spends less than those Bronx cnuts, we've had the next largest payroll for years. He's also developed the youth (farm) system brilliantly (by allowing 'baseball people' to do their things withour interference. He also listened to the local outcry when tearing down Fenway to build a bigger, better stadium somewhere else was allegedly the only option for them.
Boston is the ONLY place I've ever seen where the people love their (baseball) team like we love our Reds. It's a religion up there, with generations of fans living and dying on every single pitch - They're fanatical.
He's won the backing and support of the toughest, most fervant fans in America, by doing what he said he'd do, investing in the team, growing the brand and simply winning.
IF he does here what he's done there, we'll be satisfied with the new owners.
I'm optimistic.
I was interested to get your view Whad, knowing you spent time up there and would know that franchise well. Good stuff.
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=42171.msg1191056#msg1191056 date=1286464967]
[quote author=RolandG link=topic=42171.msg1190726#msg1190726 date=1286434598]
I was confident that Broughton would put his reputation first before allegiance to the Chavs. After all he is only a fan of theirs. While his oft silence on the sale wasn't in our best interest and he was widely vilified, I always thought that he would put our long-term future at the top of any agenda.
I have nothing but repsect for the Board for doing the right thing. Long may we live on and WIN silverware!
[/quote]
Have to disagree with point around Broughtons silence mate. I think it was in our best interest and certainly not in the interests of the two twats. Broughton appears to have played his hand very coyly.
[/quote]
Yep, agree. Broughton's known what he was doing all along, and has had the cojones to get it done, as H and G have hopefully now found out to their cost. You don't build up a CV like his for nothing.
[quote author=RolandG link=topic=42171.msg1190726#msg1190726 date=1286434598]
I was confident that Broughton would put his reputation first before allegiance to the Chavs. After all he is only a fan of theirs. While his oft silence on the sale wasn't in our best interest and he was widely vilified, I always thought that he would put our long-term future at the top of any agenda.
I have nothing but repsect for the Board for doing the right thing. Long may we live on and WIN silverware!
[/quote]
Have to disagree with point around Broughtons silence mate. I think it was in our best interest and certainly not in the interests of the two twats. Broughton appears to have played his hand very coyly.
[/quote]
Yep, agree. Broughton's known what he was doing all along, and has had the cojones to get it done, as H and G have hopefully now found out to their cost. You don't build up a CV like his for nothing.
S
Squiggles
Guest
A sugar daddy was never going to come in and throw his bank balance in our direction, and with the financial regulations coming into play, my only hope is we'll get a head-start on some clubs and build our future around these restraints, which could see us better placed in years to come.
Whilst there are doubts about his wealth to build us a new stadium/redevelop Anfield, everything I've heard about Henry suggests he's a decent owner, who listens to the fans and respects the traditions of the fan-base. I'm fucked off at the militant fans who burnt flags and so on. It makes us look like a load of complete cunts - but at least they were doing 'something' hey. What shite.
Whilst there are doubts about his wealth to build us a new stadium/redevelop Anfield, everything I've heard about Henry suggests he's a decent owner, who listens to the fans and respects the traditions of the fan-base. I'm fucked off at the militant fans who burnt flags and so on. It makes us look like a load of complete cunts - but at least they were doing 'something' hey. What shite.
S
Squiggles
Guest
Although he hasn't deserved any of the abuse thrown his way by the loony brigade, Broughton will only be fondly remembered if the new prospective owners keep to their word and satisfy the fans expectations. And all his actions to outmanoeuvre H&G will be quickly forgotten if this is not the case.
Like Moores, Broughton will be judged on the research he undertook before the sale, and not how he achieved it.
Like Moores, Broughton will be judged on the research he undertook before the sale, and not how he achieved it.
The point about the new regulations is particularly important IMO and may even mean that we'd be better off NOT getting a Citeh-style avalanche of cash at this stage. Given the choice between that and H and G remaining in place I'd obv.prefer the former, but something less extreme may well be the best option of all. The few clubs who have gone the sugar daddy route may face more problems than any of us realise when they find themselves having to manage with less after a while.
S
Squiggles
Guest
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=42171.msg1191076#msg1191076 date=1286468161]
The point about the new regulations is particularly important IMO and may even mean that we'd be better off NOT getting a Citeh-style avalanche of cash at this stage. Given the choice between that and H and G remaining in place I'd obv.prefer the former, but something less extreme may well be the best option of all. The few clubs who have gone the sugar daddy route may face more problems than any of us realise when they find themselves having to manage with less after a while.
[/quote]
They could barely comply with a small change this year which limited the squad down to 25, and had to force players like Bellamy off the books to go play in the Championship. Not all players will be so easy to persuade, especially the ones on the big wage. Take a look a Winston Bogarde of Chelsea - he sat on the bench each week and picked up his pay-cheque, with little interest in moving or playing. That's all very well in this current climate, but it could prove a disaster in the one vision which UEFA/FIFA are shaping for football. Who else is going to come along and offer player's like Santa Cruz 80 grand a week? Not many, I tell you that.
City are building a team for an era of football which is soon to be extinct, and I wouldn't like to guess how much it will cost them in the future.
And it's fair to say that as time passes, being run like a proper business will soon become more acceptable in the eyes of the fans.
The point about the new regulations is particularly important IMO and may even mean that we'd be better off NOT getting a Citeh-style avalanche of cash at this stage. Given the choice between that and H and G remaining in place I'd obv.prefer the former, but something less extreme may well be the best option of all. The few clubs who have gone the sugar daddy route may face more problems than any of us realise when they find themselves having to manage with less after a while.
[/quote]
They could barely comply with a small change this year which limited the squad down to 25, and had to force players like Bellamy off the books to go play in the Championship. Not all players will be so easy to persuade, especially the ones on the big wage. Take a look a Winston Bogarde of Chelsea - he sat on the bench each week and picked up his pay-cheque, with little interest in moving or playing. That's all very well in this current climate, but it could prove a disaster in the one vision which UEFA/FIFA are shaping for football. Who else is going to come along and offer player's like Santa Cruz 80 grand a week? Not many, I tell you that.
City are building a team for an era of football which is soon to be extinct, and I wouldn't like to guess how much it will cost them in the future.
And it's fair to say that as time passes, being run like a proper business will soon become more acceptable in the eyes of the fans.
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=42171.msg1191084#msg1191084 date=1286469042]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=42171.msg1191076#msg1191076 date=1286468161]
The point about the new regulations is particularly important IMO and may even mean that we'd be better off NOT getting a Citeh-style avalanche of cash at this stage. Given the choice between that and H and G remaining in place I'd obv.prefer the former, but something less extreme may well be the best option of all. The few clubs who have gone the sugar daddy route may face more problems than any of us realise when they find themselves having to manage with less after a while.
[/quote]
They could barely comply with a small change this year which limited the squad down to 25, and had to force players like Bellamy off the books to go play in the Championship. Not all players will be so easy to persuade, especially the ones on the big wage. Take a look a Winston Bogarde of Chelsea - he sat on the bench each week and picked up his pay-cheque, with little interest in moving or playing. That's all very well in this current climate, but it could prove a disaster in the one vision which UEFA/FIFA are shaping for football. Who else is going to come along and offer player's like Santa Cruz 80 grand a week? Not many, I tell you that.
City are building a team for an era of football which is soon to be extinct, and I wouldn't like to guess how much it will cost them in the future.
And it's fair to say that as time passes, being run like a proper business will soon become more acceptable in the eyes of the fans.
[/quote]
city's wage bill alone is higher than their turnover, so it's fair to say that they're going to have to offload a lot of pretty decent players at rock-bottom prices in the next couple of years, just like real madrid always end up doing. it should be worth keeping an eye on.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=42171.msg1191076#msg1191076 date=1286468161]
The point about the new regulations is particularly important IMO and may even mean that we'd be better off NOT getting a Citeh-style avalanche of cash at this stage. Given the choice between that and H and G remaining in place I'd obv.prefer the former, but something less extreme may well be the best option of all. The few clubs who have gone the sugar daddy route may face more problems than any of us realise when they find themselves having to manage with less after a while.
[/quote]
They could barely comply with a small change this year which limited the squad down to 25, and had to force players like Bellamy off the books to go play in the Championship. Not all players will be so easy to persuade, especially the ones on the big wage. Take a look a Winston Bogarde of Chelsea - he sat on the bench each week and picked up his pay-cheque, with little interest in moving or playing. That's all very well in this current climate, but it could prove a disaster in the one vision which UEFA/FIFA are shaping for football. Who else is going to come along and offer player's like Santa Cruz 80 grand a week? Not many, I tell you that.
City are building a team for an era of football which is soon to be extinct, and I wouldn't like to guess how much it will cost them in the future.
And it's fair to say that as time passes, being run like a proper business will soon become more acceptable in the eyes of the fans.
[/quote]
city's wage bill alone is higher than their turnover, so it's fair to say that they're going to have to offload a lot of pretty decent players at rock-bottom prices in the next couple of years, just like real madrid always end up doing. it should be worth keeping an eye on.
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=42171.msg1191071#msg1191071 date=1286467707]
A sugar daddy was never going to come in and throw his bank balance in our direction, and with the financial regulations coming into play, my only hope is we'll get a head-start on some clubs and build our future around these restraints, which could see us better placed in years to come.
Whilst there are doubts about his wealth to build us a new stadium/redevelop Anfield, everything I've heard about Henry suggests he's a decent owner, who listens to the fans and respects the traditions of the fan-base. I'm fucked off at the militant fans who burnt flags and so on. It makes us look like a load of complete cunts - but at least they were doing 'something' hey. What shite.
[/quote]
The doubts about his wealth aren't truly applicable given it's not just him, it's a consortium.
A sugar daddy was never going to come in and throw his bank balance in our direction, and with the financial regulations coming into play, my only hope is we'll get a head-start on some clubs and build our future around these restraints, which could see us better placed in years to come.
Whilst there are doubts about his wealth to build us a new stadium/redevelop Anfield, everything I've heard about Henry suggests he's a decent owner, who listens to the fans and respects the traditions of the fan-base. I'm fucked off at the militant fans who burnt flags and so on. It makes us look like a load of complete cunts - but at least they were doing 'something' hey. What shite.
[/quote]
The doubts about his wealth aren't truly applicable given it's not just him, it's a consortium.
We certainly shouldn't expect money to be showered upon us. Worrying that we might also expect a hike in prices at the ground.
It isn't ideal, that's true, but the business model's worked in Boston, and in a way which hasn't alienated the ordinary fans there.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=42171.msg1191076#msg1191076 date=1286468161]
The point about the new regulations is particularly important IMO and may even mean that we'd be better off NOT getting a Citeh-style avalanche of cash at this stage.
[/quote]
Why?
I'm guessing our turnover is higher than City's and can accommodate a few high earners in the squad.
The point about the new regulations is particularly important IMO and may even mean that we'd be better off NOT getting a Citeh-style avalanche of cash at this stage.
[/quote]
Why?
I'm guessing our turnover is higher than City's and can accommodate a few high earners in the squad.
Squiggs explains it above. The main point isn't so much to do with the here and now, but has more to do with the comedown in a few years' time being difficult to handle.
I owe them an apology as I was getting totally frustrated. However, there's a few on here who really have ended up with egg on their faces with the vilification of Broughton and Purslow.
Its nice to see a return to the days of getting business done behind closed doors.
Its nice to see a return to the days of getting business done behind closed doors.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=42171.msg1191212#msg1191212 date=1286482373]
Squiggs explains it above. The main point isn't so much to do with the here and now, but has more to do with the comedown in a few years' time being difficult to handle.
[/quote]
There is nothing to say we have to throw money around like City though. It'd just mean we can buy who we need to buy without worrying about transfer fees like we have been.
Squiggs explains it above. The main point isn't so much to do with the here and now, but has more to do with the comedown in a few years' time being difficult to handle.
[/quote]
There is nothing to say we have to throw money around like City though. It'd just mean we can buy who we need to buy without worrying about transfer fees like we have been.
[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=42171.msg1191057#msg1191057 date=1286465021]
If he runs it like he's run the Red Sox, we'll not be complaining...
In a league where EVERYBODY spends less than those Bronx cnuts, we've had the next largest payroll for years. He's also developed the youth (farm) system brilliantly (by allowing 'baseball people' to do their things withour interference. He also listened to the local outcry when tearing down Fenway to build a bigger, better stadium somewhere else was allegedly the only option for them.
Boston is the ONLY place I've ever seen where the people love their (baseball) team like we love our Reds. It's a religion up there, with generations of fans living and dying on every single pitch - They're fanatical.
He's won the backing and support of the toughest, most fervant fans in America, by doing what he said he'd do, investing in the team, growing the brand and simply winning.
IF he does here what he's done there, we'll be satisfied with the new owners.
I'm optimistic.
[/quote]
Now that's a good read.
If he runs it like he's run the Red Sox, we'll not be complaining...
In a league where EVERYBODY spends less than those Bronx cnuts, we've had the next largest payroll for years. He's also developed the youth (farm) system brilliantly (by allowing 'baseball people' to do their things withour interference. He also listened to the local outcry when tearing down Fenway to build a bigger, better stadium somewhere else was allegedly the only option for them.
Boston is the ONLY place I've ever seen where the people love their (baseball) team like we love our Reds. It's a religion up there, with generations of fans living and dying on every single pitch - They're fanatical.
He's won the backing and support of the toughest, most fervant fans in America, by doing what he said he'd do, investing in the team, growing the brand and simply winning.
IF he does here what he's done there, we'll be satisfied with the new owners.
I'm optimistic.
[/quote]
Now that's a good read.
[quote author=Buddha link=topic=42171.msg1191223#msg1191223 date=1286482883]
[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=42171.msg1191057#msg1191057 date=1286465021]
If he runs it like he's run the Red Sox, we'll not be complaining...
In a league where EVERYBODY spends less than those Bronx cnuts, we've had the next largest payroll for years. He's also developed the youth (farm) system brilliantly (by allowing 'baseball people' to do their things withour interference. He also listened to the local outcry when tearing down Fenway to build a bigger, better stadium somewhere else was allegedly the only option for them.
Boston is the ONLY place I've ever seen where the people love their (baseball) team like we love our Reds. It's a religion up there, with generations of fans living and dying on every single pitch - They're fanatical.
He's won the backing and support of the toughest, most fervant fans in America, by doing what he said he'd do, investing in the team, growing the brand and simply winning.
IF he does here what he's done there, we'll be satisfied with the new owners.
I'm optimistic.
[/quote]
Now that's a good read.
[/quote]
Agreed. Is he facing a tougher task here though. We'll see.
[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=42171.msg1191057#msg1191057 date=1286465021]
If he runs it like he's run the Red Sox, we'll not be complaining...
In a league where EVERYBODY spends less than those Bronx cnuts, we've had the next largest payroll for years. He's also developed the youth (farm) system brilliantly (by allowing 'baseball people' to do their things withour interference. He also listened to the local outcry when tearing down Fenway to build a bigger, better stadium somewhere else was allegedly the only option for them.
Boston is the ONLY place I've ever seen where the people love their (baseball) team like we love our Reds. It's a religion up there, with generations of fans living and dying on every single pitch - They're fanatical.
He's won the backing and support of the toughest, most fervant fans in America, by doing what he said he'd do, investing in the team, growing the brand and simply winning.
IF he does here what he's done there, we'll be satisfied with the new owners.
I'm optimistic.
[/quote]
Now that's a good read.
[/quote]
Agreed. Is he facing a tougher task here though. We'll see.
- Status