SIX SERIOUS BIDS FOR LFC
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So if it happens Ross what do you think of it all?
Will we get the stadium done, and will we be able to stand on our own two feet?
Will we get the stadium done, and will we be able to stand on our own two feet?
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=41247.msg1147125#msg1147125 date=1280777752]
Venture capital funds - Hansern does that not set alarm bells ringing yet ?
They don't exist to plough money into football clubs.
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I mentioned this before - they don't need to make money out of the club directly so long as they have a strongly competitive team (PL & CL), there is vast money to be made in the marketing of football related sales in TV, merchandise etc.
Venture capital funds - Hansern does that not set alarm bells ringing yet ?
They don't exist to plough money into football clubs.
[/quote]
I mentioned this before - they don't need to make money out of the club directly so long as they have a strongly competitive team (PL & CL), there is vast money to be made in the marketing of football related sales in TV, merchandise etc.
More cowboys? Yeah.
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=41247.msg1147126#msg1147126 date=1280777817]
So if it happens Ross what do you think of it all?
Will we get the stadium done, and will we be able to stand on our own two feet?
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If it really is Chinese money then everything will get done. Have you not noticed China recently.
So if it happens Ross what do you think of it all?
Will we get the stadium done, and will we be able to stand on our own two feet?
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If it really is Chinese money then everything will get done. Have you not noticed China recently.
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[quote author=Rosco link=topic=41247.msg1147125#msg1147125 date=1280777752]
Venture capital funds - Hansern does that not set alarm bells ringing yet ?
They don't exist to plough money into football clubs.
[/quote]
I mentioned this before - they don't need to make money out of the club directly so long as they have a strongly competitive team (PL & CL), there is vast money to be made in the marketing of football related sales in TV, merchandise etc.
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You've lost me. TV revenue and the peanuts clubs make from merchandise are money the club makes directly.
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=41247.msg1147125#msg1147125 date=1280777752]
Venture capital funds - Hansern does that not set alarm bells ringing yet ?
They don't exist to plough money into football clubs.
[/quote]
I mentioned this before - they don't need to make money out of the club directly so long as they have a strongly competitive team (PL & CL), there is vast money to be made in the marketing of football related sales in TV, merchandise etc.
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You've lost me. TV revenue and the peanuts clubs make from merchandise are money the club makes directly.
Mate, I couldn't care fuck all if they want to invest 300 mill £ on Cristiano Ronaldo or not.
The whole point of Huang is the far east market which he has excellent contacts, which would generate so much income for us.
I don't want fantasy Championship manager style owners, and I agree they don't excist. I want owners that can build a stadium, quickly, and give us some funds for players the first couple of years. And then I'd like this club to be run without to much interferrence from the owners at all. With 2012 in mind.
If that sovereign fund has 200 bn, fine. It won't be used on us anyway. But at least it shows that the funds are there to build a stadium and get us challenging.
Huang and his backers sees what kind of money they could make by taking us over in the far east. Thats whats interesting for them, of course they want to make money. And if you remove our debt, Liverpool actually makes a profit.
The whole point of Huang is the far east market which he has excellent contacts, which would generate so much income for us.
I don't want fantasy Championship manager style owners, and I agree they don't excist. I want owners that can build a stadium, quickly, and give us some funds for players the first couple of years. And then I'd like this club to be run without to much interferrence from the owners at all. With 2012 in mind.
If that sovereign fund has 200 bn, fine. It won't be used on us anyway. But at least it shows that the funds are there to build a stadium and get us challenging.
Huang and his backers sees what kind of money they could make by taking us over in the far east. Thats whats interesting for them, of course they want to make money. And if you remove our debt, Liverpool actually makes a profit.
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=41247.msg1147126#msg1147126 date=1280777817]
So if it happens Ross what do you think of it all?
Will we get the stadium done, and will we be able to stand on our own two feet?
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We know absolutely nothing about those behind the bid, so it's impossible to say right now.
There are plenty of red flags already though
So if it happens Ross what do you think of it all?
Will we get the stadium done, and will we be able to stand on our own two feet?
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We know absolutely nothing about those behind the bid, so it's impossible to say right now.
There are plenty of red flags already though
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=41247.msg1147135#msg1147135 date=1280778109]
Mate, I couldn't care fuck all if they want to invest 300 mill £ on Cristiano Ronaldo or not.
The whole point of Huang is the far east market which he has excellent contacts, which would generate so much income for us.
I don't want fantasy Championship manager style owners, and I agree they don't excist. I want owners that can build a stadium, quickly, and give us some funds for players the first couple of years. And then I'd like this club to be run without to much interferrence from the owners at all. With 2012 in mind.
If that sovereign fund has 200 bn, fine. It won't be used on us anyway. But at least it shows that the funds are there to build a stadium and get us challenging.
Huang and his backers sees what kind of money they could make by taking us over in the far east. Thats whats interesting for them, of course they want to make money. And if you remove our debt, Liverpool actually makes a profit.[/quote]
Rosco pointed out earlier that this actually isn't the case.
Mate, I couldn't care fuck all if they want to invest 300 mill £ on Cristiano Ronaldo or not.
The whole point of Huang is the far east market which he has excellent contacts, which would generate so much income for us.
I don't want fantasy Championship manager style owners, and I agree they don't excist. I want owners that can build a stadium, quickly, and give us some funds for players the first couple of years. And then I'd like this club to be run without to much interferrence from the owners at all. With 2012 in mind.
If that sovereign fund has 200 bn, fine. It won't be used on us anyway. But at least it shows that the funds are there to build a stadium and get us challenging.
Huang and his backers sees what kind of money they could make by taking us over in the far east. Thats whats interesting for them, of course they want to make money. And if you remove our debt, Liverpool actually makes a profit.[/quote]
Rosco pointed out earlier that this actually isn't the case.
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[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=41247.msg1147129#msg1147129 date=1280777918]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=41247.msg1147125#msg1147125 date=1280777752]
Venture capital funds - Hansern does that not set alarm bells ringing yet ?
They don't exist to plough money into football clubs.
[/quote]
I mentioned this before - they don't need to make money out of the club directly so long as they have a strongly competitive team (PL & CL), there is vast money to be made in the marketing of football related sales in TV, merchandise etc.
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You've lost me. TV revenue and the peanuts clubs make from merchandise are money the club makes directly.
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The club is in no position to take advantage of the opportunities that could be presented (lack of local knowledge). Agents would need to be appointed to handle sales in China / Asia, those agents would naturally be companies operated by the investors, franchising of sporting deals will make huge amounts of money and LFC would receive just a proportion of it. TV, clothing, merchandise ..... think on a much smaller, but longer term, scale of how both the Olympics and the World Expo were marketed. Vast sales & profits were generated in China alone (especially in the case of the World Expo) and the Olympic committee had to concede a large percentage to Chinese vested parties. We are not talking about LFC alone either as these companies would be able to market the Premier League, Champions League etc.
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[quote author=Rosco link=topic=41247.msg1147125#msg1147125 date=1280777752]
Venture capital funds - Hansern does that not set alarm bells ringing yet ?
They don't exist to plough money into football clubs.
[/quote]
I mentioned this before - they don't need to make money out of the club directly so long as they have a strongly competitive team (PL & CL), there is vast money to be made in the marketing of football related sales in TV, merchandise etc.
[/quote]
You've lost me. TV revenue and the peanuts clubs make from merchandise are money the club makes directly.
[/quote]
The club is in no position to take advantage of the opportunities that could be presented (lack of local knowledge). Agents would need to be appointed to handle sales in China / Asia, those agents would naturally be companies operated by the investors, franchising of sporting deals will make huge amounts of money and LFC would receive just a proportion of it. TV, clothing, merchandise ..... think on a much smaller, but longer term, scale of how both the Olympics and the World Expo were marketed. Vast sales & profits were generated in China alone (especially in the case of the World Expo) and the Olympic committee had to concede a large percentage to Chinese vested parties. We are not talking about LFC alone either as these companies would be able to market the Premier League, Champions League etc.
[quote author=Wilko link=topic=41247.msg1147138#msg1147138 date=1280778274]
Rosco pointed out earlier that this actually isn't the case.
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And I got the figures wrong.
in 08/09 the loss was 52m, interest payments were 40m.
in 07/08 the loss was 42m, interest payments were 41m.
Rosco pointed out earlier that this actually isn't the case.
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And I got the figures wrong.
in 08/09 the loss was 52m, interest payments were 40m.
in 07/08 the loss was 42m, interest payments were 41m.
The new stadium has been heralded as the club's savior for a long time now. It will sky rocket match day revenue with more boxes and more seats for lads who have spent years on the season ticket waiting list.
Is the waiting list as long as it's made out to be though? There have been recent posts suggesting it's relatively easy to get one so is this simply due to an utterly shit season or is there a lack of demand for another twenty five thousand seats?
Is the waiting list as long as it's made out to be though? There have been recent posts suggesting it's relatively easy to get one so is this simply due to an utterly shit season or is there a lack of demand for another twenty five thousand seats?
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[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=41247.msg1147129#msg1147129 date=1280777918]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=41247.msg1147125#msg1147125 date=1280777752]
Venture capital funds - Hansern does that not set alarm bells ringing yet ?
They don't exist to plough money into football clubs.
[/quote]
I mentioned this before - they don't need to make money out of the club directly so long as they have a strongly competitive team (PL & CL), there is vast money to be made in the marketing of football related sales in TV, merchandise etc.
[/quote]
You've lost me. TV revenue and the peanuts clubs make from merchandise are money the club makes directly.
[/quote]
The club is in no position to take advantage of the opportunities that could be presented (lack of local knowledge). Agents would need to be appointed to handle sales in China / Asia, those agents would naturally be companies operated by the investors, franchising of sporting deals will make huge amounts of money and LFC would receive just a proportion of it. TV, clothing, merchandise ..... think on a much smaller, but longer term, scale of how both the Olympics and the World Expo were marketed. Vast sales & profits were generated in China alone (especially in the case of the World Expo) and the Olympic committee had to concede a large percentage to Chinese vested parties. We are not talking about LFC alone either as these companies would be able to market the Premier League, Champions League etc.
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Liverpool can't negotiate TV deals. The Premier League does and already has a deal in place.
Adidas get all the money from the gear that's sold.
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=41247.msg1147134#msg1147134 date=1280778104]
[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=41247.msg1147129#msg1147129 date=1280777918]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=41247.msg1147125#msg1147125 date=1280777752]
Venture capital funds - Hansern does that not set alarm bells ringing yet ?
They don't exist to plough money into football clubs.
[/quote]
I mentioned this before - they don't need to make money out of the club directly so long as they have a strongly competitive team (PL & CL), there is vast money to be made in the marketing of football related sales in TV, merchandise etc.
[/quote]
You've lost me. TV revenue and the peanuts clubs make from merchandise are money the club makes directly.
[/quote]
The club is in no position to take advantage of the opportunities that could be presented (lack of local knowledge). Agents would need to be appointed to handle sales in China / Asia, those agents would naturally be companies operated by the investors, franchising of sporting deals will make huge amounts of money and LFC would receive just a proportion of it. TV, clothing, merchandise ..... think on a much smaller, but longer term, scale of how both the Olympics and the World Expo were marketed. Vast sales & profits were generated in China alone (especially in the case of the World Expo) and the Olympic committee had to concede a large percentage to Chinese vested parties. We are not talking about LFC alone either as these companies would be able to market the Premier League, Champions League etc.
[/quote]
Liverpool can't negotiate TV deals. The Premier League does and already has a deal in place.
Adidas get all the money from the gear that's sold.
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=41247.msg1147151#msg1147151 date=1280778838]
[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=41247.msg1147147#msg1147147 date=1280778748]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=41247.msg1147134#msg1147134 date=1280778104]
[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=41247.msg1147129#msg1147129 date=1280777918]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=41247.msg1147125#msg1147125 date=1280777752]
Venture capital funds - Hansern does that not set alarm bells ringing yet ?
They don't exist to plough money into football clubs.
[/quote]
I mentioned this before - they don't need to make money out of the club directly so long as they have a strongly competitive team (PL & CL), there is vast money to be made in the marketing of football related sales in TV, merchandise etc.
[/quote]
You've lost me. TV revenue and the peanuts clubs make from merchandise are money the club makes directly.
[/quote]
The club is in no position to take advantage of the opportunities that could be presented (lack of local knowledge). Agents would need to be appointed to handle sales in China / Asia, those agents would naturally be companies operated by the investors, franchising of sporting deals will make huge amounts of money and LFC would receive just a proportion of it. TV, clothing, merchandise ..... think on a much smaller, but longer term, scale of how both the Olympics and the World Expo were marketed. Vast sales & profits were generated in China alone (especially in the case of the World Expo) and the Olympic committee had to concede a large percentage to Chinese vested parties. We are not talking about LFC alone either as these companies would be able to market the Premier League, Champions League etc.
[/quote]
Liverpool can't negotiate TV deals. The Premier League does and already has a deal in place.
Adidas get all the money from the gear that's sold.
[/quote]
Just out of interest, what about Real's claims that Beckham didn't cost them anything in the end because his shirt sales earned them substantially more than the 25 million they paid for him? Is our kit deal set up differently?
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[quote author=Rosco link=topic=41247.msg1147134#msg1147134 date=1280778104]
[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=41247.msg1147129#msg1147129 date=1280777918]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=41247.msg1147125#msg1147125 date=1280777752]
Venture capital funds - Hansern does that not set alarm bells ringing yet ?
They don't exist to plough money into football clubs.
[/quote]
I mentioned this before - they don't need to make money out of the club directly so long as they have a strongly competitive team (PL & CL), there is vast money to be made in the marketing of football related sales in TV, merchandise etc.
[/quote]
You've lost me. TV revenue and the peanuts clubs make from merchandise are money the club makes directly.
[/quote]
The club is in no position to take advantage of the opportunities that could be presented (lack of local knowledge). Agents would need to be appointed to handle sales in China / Asia, those agents would naturally be companies operated by the investors, franchising of sporting deals will make huge amounts of money and LFC would receive just a proportion of it. TV, clothing, merchandise ..... think on a much smaller, but longer term, scale of how both the Olympics and the World Expo were marketed. Vast sales & profits were generated in China alone (especially in the case of the World Expo) and the Olympic committee had to concede a large percentage to Chinese vested parties. We are not talking about LFC alone either as these companies would be able to market the Premier League, Champions League etc.
[/quote]
Liverpool can't negotiate TV deals. The Premier League does and already has a deal in place.
Adidas get all the money from the gear that's sold.
[/quote]
Just out of interest, what about Real's claims that Beckham didn't cost them anything in the end because his shirt sales earned them substantially more than the 25 million they paid for him? Is our kit deal set up differently?
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[quote author=Rosco link=topic=41247.msg1147151#msg1147151 date=1280778838]
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[quote author=Rosco link=topic=41247.msg1147134#msg1147134 date=1280778104]
[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=41247.msg1147129#msg1147129 date=1280777918]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=41247.msg1147125#msg1147125 date=1280777752]
Venture capital funds - Hansern does that not set alarm bells ringing yet ?
They don't exist to plough money into football clubs.
[/quote]
I mentioned this before - they don't need to make money out of the club directly so long as they have a strongly competitive team (PL & CL), there is vast money to be made in the marketing of football related sales in TV, merchandise etc.
[/quote]
You've lost me. TV revenue and the peanuts clubs make from merchandise are money the club makes directly.
[/quote]
The club is in no position to take advantage of the opportunities that could be presented (lack of local knowledge). Agents would need to be appointed to handle sales in China / Asia, those agents would naturally be companies operated by the investors, franchising of sporting deals will make huge amounts of money and LFC would receive just a proportion of it. TV, clothing, merchandise ..... think on a much smaller, but longer term, scale of how both the Olympics and the World Expo were marketed. Vast sales & profits were generated in China alone (especially in the case of the World Expo) and the Olympic committee had to concede a large percentage to Chinese vested parties. We are not talking about LFC alone either as these companies would be able to market the Premier League, Champions League etc.
[/quote]
Liverpool can't negotiate TV deals. The Premier League does and already has a deal in place.
Adidas get all the money from the gear that's sold.
[/quote]
Just out of interest, what about Real's claims that Beckham didn't cost them anything in the end because his shirt sales earned them substantially more than the 25 million they paid for him? Is our kit deal set up differently?
[/quote]
Perez has more recently stated that there is only small money in selling kits. When you look at any set of club accounts you'll see the real money comes from ticket sales, sponsorship and TV revenue.
Real made their money on him by selling their own TV rights to places that were interested in seeing him, I'd be willing to bet Sky had to pay a lot more for La Liga once he moved
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[quote author=Rosco link=topic=41247.msg1147134#msg1147134 date=1280778104]
[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=41247.msg1147129#msg1147129 date=1280777918]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=41247.msg1147125#msg1147125 date=1280777752]
Venture capital funds - Hansern does that not set alarm bells ringing yet ?
They don't exist to plough money into football clubs.
[/quote]
I mentioned this before - they don't need to make money out of the club directly so long as they have a strongly competitive team (PL & CL), there is vast money to be made in the marketing of football related sales in TV, merchandise etc.
[/quote]
You've lost me. TV revenue and the peanuts clubs make from merchandise are money the club makes directly.
[/quote]
The club is in no position to take advantage of the opportunities that could be presented (lack of local knowledge). Agents would need to be appointed to handle sales in China / Asia, those agents would naturally be companies operated by the investors, franchising of sporting deals will make huge amounts of money and LFC would receive just a proportion of it. TV, clothing, merchandise ..... think on a much smaller, but longer term, scale of how both the Olympics and the World Expo were marketed. Vast sales & profits were generated in China alone (especially in the case of the World Expo) and the Olympic committee had to concede a large percentage to Chinese vested parties. We are not talking about LFC alone either as these companies would be able to market the Premier League, Champions League etc.
[/quote]
Liverpool can't negotiate TV deals. The Premier League does and already has a deal in place.
Adidas get all the money from the gear that's sold.
[/quote]
Just out of interest, what about Real's claims that Beckham didn't cost them anything in the end because his shirt sales earned them substantially more than the 25 million they paid for him? Is our kit deal set up differently?
[/quote]
Perez has more recently stated that there is only small money in selling kits. When you look at any set of club accounts you'll see the real money comes from ticket sales, sponsorship and TV revenue.
Real made their money on him by selling their own TV rights to places that were interested in seeing him, I'd be willing to bet Sky had to pay a lot more for La Liga once he moved
Makes you wonder about the BBC though, who runs the story about 6 bids. I always thought the Beeb was a very good source.
Broughton said he was concerned about the lack of interest because of the high valuation set by H&G, and after Huang makes his bid, magically 5 more bids appear.
Smells of stalling tactic to me, and it takes a lot of credibility away from BBC if it's true.
Tony Evans said that there is one bid, but he also said earlier in the summer that Gerrard and Torres would have been gone by now.
In the end, I guess no one knows fuck all except the people involved in the process. We'll just have to wait and see, but if we're not sold now. I think our beloved club is doomed.
Broughton said he was concerned about the lack of interest because of the high valuation set by H&G, and after Huang makes his bid, magically 5 more bids appear.
Smells of stalling tactic to me, and it takes a lot of credibility away from BBC if it's true.
Tony Evans said that there is one bid, but he also said earlier in the summer that Gerrard and Torres would have been gone by now.
In the end, I guess no one knows fuck all except the people involved in the process. We'll just have to wait and see, but if we're not sold now. I think our beloved club is doomed.
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[quote author=Rosco link=topic=41247.msg1147125#msg1147125 date=1280777752]
Venture capital funds - Hansern does that not set alarm bells ringing yet ?
They don't exist to plough money into football clubs.
[/quote]
I mentioned this before - they don't need to make money out of the club directly so long as they have a strongly competitive team (PL & CL), there is vast money to be made in the marketing of football related sales in TV, merchandise etc.
[/quote]
You've lost me. TV revenue and the peanuts clubs make from merchandise are money the club makes directly.
[/quote]
The club is in no position to take advantage of the opportunities that could be presented (lack of local knowledge). Agents would need to be appointed to handle sales in China / Asia, those agents would naturally be companies operated by the investors, franchising of sporting deals will make huge amounts of money and LFC would receive just a proportion of it. TV, clothing, merchandise ..... think on a much smaller, but longer term, scale of how both the Olympics and the World Expo were marketed. Vast sales & profits were generated in China alone (especially in the case of the World Expo) and the Olympic committee had to concede a large percentage to Chinese vested parties. We are not talking about LFC alone either as these companies would be able to market the Premier League, Champions League etc.
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Liverpool can't negotiate TV deals. The Premier League does and already has a deal in place.
Adidas get all the money from the gear that's sold.
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The PL didn't have a deal in place last season and this year only one station is 'officially' covering it, again not from the PL directly ..... though I guarantee we will again see it on 3 or 4 channels as we did last year. If the connections are there deals can & will be made.
Adidas can't market China - I've seen this a million times here, they all end up using local marketing companies or international companies sub-contracting to local companies and you still can't find any legitimate Liverpool gear over here.
Merchandise covers a whole plethora of stuff .... my mate actually holds the franchise for some LFC stuff (mugs etc.) - and he lives in Canada !
Sports are taking off in a big way in China, led by Football & Basketball. Done the right way, utilising local connections, there are vast sums of money to be made.
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[quote author=Rosco link=topic=41247.msg1147125#msg1147125 date=1280777752]
Venture capital funds - Hansern does that not set alarm bells ringing yet ?
They don't exist to plough money into football clubs.
[/quote]
I mentioned this before - they don't need to make money out of the club directly so long as they have a strongly competitive team (PL & CL), there is vast money to be made in the marketing of football related sales in TV, merchandise etc.
[/quote]
You've lost me. TV revenue and the peanuts clubs make from merchandise are money the club makes directly.
[/quote]
The club is in no position to take advantage of the opportunities that could be presented (lack of local knowledge). Agents would need to be appointed to handle sales in China / Asia, those agents would naturally be companies operated by the investors, franchising of sporting deals will make huge amounts of money and LFC would receive just a proportion of it. TV, clothing, merchandise ..... think on a much smaller, but longer term, scale of how both the Olympics and the World Expo were marketed. Vast sales & profits were generated in China alone (especially in the case of the World Expo) and the Olympic committee had to concede a large percentage to Chinese vested parties. We are not talking about LFC alone either as these companies would be able to market the Premier League, Champions League etc.
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Liverpool can't negotiate TV deals. The Premier League does and already has a deal in place.
Adidas get all the money from the gear that's sold.
[/quote]
The PL didn't have a deal in place last season and this year only one station is 'officially' covering it, again not from the PL directly ..... though I guarantee we will again see it on 3 or 4 channels as we did last year. If the connections are there deals can & will be made.
Adidas can't market China - I've seen this a million times here, they all end up using local marketing companies or international companies sub-contracting to local companies and you still can't find any legitimate Liverpool gear over here.
Merchandise covers a whole plethora of stuff .... my mate actually holds the franchise for some LFC stuff (mugs etc.) - and he lives in Canada !
Sports are taking off in a big way in China, led by Football & Basketball. Done the right way, utilising local connections, there are vast sums of money to be made.
Good read from Tony Barrett, translated from Liverpool.no
Barrett explains Huang situation
Tony Barrett of The Times believes Fernando Torres will be at the club despite all the speculation about the club best. Huang wants control of the team as quickly as possible.
By Arild Skjæveland
Tony Barrett is known for being a fellow with the sources in order, for his work in the Liverpool Echo and many years as a red fan. Now he writes for The Times, which yesterday brought news of Kenny Huang wanted to buy the club. He tells us little about the Chinese could be the club's new owner, and says that Fernando Torres's situation is not as dependent on the ownership of the club as his colleague Tony Evans said earlier today.
- Huang has been described as the closest China has a super mogul. He was the first Chinese guy who was educated and worked on the Stock Exchange in New York, and he talks Mandarin, Cantonese, English and Japanese. He has organized major sporting event between companies, where basketball has been his specialty. He bought a basketball League in home country competing with Chinese basketball Association. He is generally a low profile, but apparently believes that Liverpool's popularity in Asia can make his business grow.
- The next step now is that banks are considering your bid, and decides whether there is a good bid for Liverpool Football Club. Seems they do, they'll recommend it to the Board, who will vote for or against it should be accepted. We must wait to see how this goes, and if Kenny Huang to take on debt to buy the club that way. The situation is complex, where control of the club will be handled by the board instead of owners, because they have failed to reduce the outstanding debt of £ 237 million.
Barrett also explains why Huang has gone directly to the Royal Bank of Scotland, rather than through Martin Broughton who are employed to sell the club.
- What we know about Huang is that he wanted to get this done quickly. He wants total control before the transfer window closes so that Roy Hodgson can obtain the transition goals he has set for the new season. To contact RBS and Barclays Capital directly, Huang hopes to speed the process, which would have been slower if he had gone directly to the club.
Hicks and Gillett values the club at £ 800 million, and some sources say that the offer from Huang's nearly £ 350 million. How has such an opportunity to bid to be accepted?
- RBS and Barclays Capital put control of the club on the board rather than owners, because the owners have failed to reduce debt. If RBS will recommend your bid, it will be up to the board to accept it at the polls. Gillett and Hicks sits on the board, but it is a boardroom split. If this bid is so far, it is likely that there will be voted for by the club.
Barrett says that it is the Asian market that enables Huang looks at Liverpool as so attractive.
- The club might be laden in debt, and with the danger of getting out of the top clubs, but Liverpool's brand still sells well. With the exception of Manchester United, there is no other English club with so much appeal in the East as Liverpool. Huang's vision is that Liverpool will have the potential to become the people's club in China.
- It has not been given any indication (the number of pounds available to the manager whether there will be a takeover) on the exact amounts yet, but we know that Huang would like to invest in players as Liverpool keep in touch with the teams ahead in the top of the Premier League . It will not be like Manchester City, but it will let Roy Hodgson few pick the players he has accused them seem to be able to hang with the top.
Would Fernando Torres's future depends on this assumption, the last question Barrett got.
- I'm not so sure. Torres reported back to the gym today, and have been told to postpone the decision on his future until the outcome of this bid is clear. I have a feeling that he will stay no matter how it goes. He loves life on Merseyside and he loves playing for Liverpool Football Club. His concern is that the club's ambitions do not match his personal ambitions. There are concerns also several others in the club.
- In addition, it does not have Chelsea's interest in the player been as strong as they had expected in recent months. They have not put Fernando in a position that he must make a difficult choice, and we are not so far from the start of the season. So long as the current owners will always be speculation about Torres, but if the club gets a real owner will not be his future, a theme, "concludes Barrett.
Barrett explains Huang situation
Tony Barrett of The Times believes Fernando Torres will be at the club despite all the speculation about the club best. Huang wants control of the team as quickly as possible.
By Arild Skjæveland
Tony Barrett is known for being a fellow with the sources in order, for his work in the Liverpool Echo and many years as a red fan. Now he writes for The Times, which yesterday brought news of Kenny Huang wanted to buy the club. He tells us little about the Chinese could be the club's new owner, and says that Fernando Torres's situation is not as dependent on the ownership of the club as his colleague Tony Evans said earlier today.
- Huang has been described as the closest China has a super mogul. He was the first Chinese guy who was educated and worked on the Stock Exchange in New York, and he talks Mandarin, Cantonese, English and Japanese. He has organized major sporting event between companies, where basketball has been his specialty. He bought a basketball League in home country competing with Chinese basketball Association. He is generally a low profile, but apparently believes that Liverpool's popularity in Asia can make his business grow.
- The next step now is that banks are considering your bid, and decides whether there is a good bid for Liverpool Football Club. Seems they do, they'll recommend it to the Board, who will vote for or against it should be accepted. We must wait to see how this goes, and if Kenny Huang to take on debt to buy the club that way. The situation is complex, where control of the club will be handled by the board instead of owners, because they have failed to reduce the outstanding debt of £ 237 million.
Barrett also explains why Huang has gone directly to the Royal Bank of Scotland, rather than through Martin Broughton who are employed to sell the club.
- What we know about Huang is that he wanted to get this done quickly. He wants total control before the transfer window closes so that Roy Hodgson can obtain the transition goals he has set for the new season. To contact RBS and Barclays Capital directly, Huang hopes to speed the process, which would have been slower if he had gone directly to the club.
Hicks and Gillett values the club at £ 800 million, and some sources say that the offer from Huang's nearly £ 350 million. How has such an opportunity to bid to be accepted?
- RBS and Barclays Capital put control of the club on the board rather than owners, because the owners have failed to reduce debt. If RBS will recommend your bid, it will be up to the board to accept it at the polls. Gillett and Hicks sits on the board, but it is a boardroom split. If this bid is so far, it is likely that there will be voted for by the club.
Barrett says that it is the Asian market that enables Huang looks at Liverpool as so attractive.
- The club might be laden in debt, and with the danger of getting out of the top clubs, but Liverpool's brand still sells well. With the exception of Manchester United, there is no other English club with so much appeal in the East as Liverpool. Huang's vision is that Liverpool will have the potential to become the people's club in China.
- It has not been given any indication (the number of pounds available to the manager whether there will be a takeover) on the exact amounts yet, but we know that Huang would like to invest in players as Liverpool keep in touch with the teams ahead in the top of the Premier League . It will not be like Manchester City, but it will let Roy Hodgson few pick the players he has accused them seem to be able to hang with the top.
Would Fernando Torres's future depends on this assumption, the last question Barrett got.
- I'm not so sure. Torres reported back to the gym today, and have been told to postpone the decision on his future until the outcome of this bid is clear. I have a feeling that he will stay no matter how it goes. He loves life on Merseyside and he loves playing for Liverpool Football Club. His concern is that the club's ambitions do not match his personal ambitions. There are concerns also several others in the club.
- In addition, it does not have Chelsea's interest in the player been as strong as they had expected in recent months. They have not put Fernando in a position that he must make a difficult choice, and we are not so far from the start of the season. So long as the current owners will always be speculation about Torres, but if the club gets a real owner will not be his future, a theme, "concludes Barrett.
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Makes you wonder about the BBC though, who runs the story about 6 bids. I always thought the Beeb was a very good source.
Broughton said he was concerned about the lack of interest because of the high valuation set by H&G, and after Huang makes his bid, magically 5 more bids appear.
Smells of stalling tactic to me, and it takes a lot of credibility away from BBC if it's true.
Tony Evans said that there is one bid, but he also said earlier in the summer that Gerrard and Torres would have been gone by now.
In the end, I guess no one knows fuck all except the people involved in the process. We'll just have to wait and see, but if we're not sold now. I think our beloved club is doomed.
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I meant reputable as in 'insider' news, not the BS getting spouted by the club that the Beeb is reproducing.
Makes you wonder about the BBC though, who runs the story about 6 bids. I always thought the Beeb was a very good source.
Broughton said he was concerned about the lack of interest because of the high valuation set by H&G, and after Huang makes his bid, magically 5 more bids appear.
Smells of stalling tactic to me, and it takes a lot of credibility away from BBC if it's true.
Tony Evans said that there is one bid, but he also said earlier in the summer that Gerrard and Torres would have been gone by now.
In the end, I guess no one knows fuck all except the people involved in the process. We'll just have to wait and see, but if we're not sold now. I think our beloved club is doomed.
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I meant reputable as in 'insider' news, not the BS getting spouted by the club that the Beeb is reproducing.
I find it quite amusing that some people are treating Ross as some kind of authority on this
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