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And as said, then no-one is in said group 1, meaning not only is my logic flawed but the original premise too! Unless someone wants to come forward to admit their adoration for the Roy-hoff
 

What do you think you're capable of achieving with Liverpool?
I think I'm capable of giving the team a defined style of play, that they've lacked for a couple of years really. You look at teams like Manchester United, Manchester City, Chelsea, Tottenham even Stoke, Swansea - you know how they play, and more importantly they know how they play. I don't know what's gone on before I came here, but it's football management at it's most basic. That will be the first thing I look to implement.

What players are you looking forward to working with?
All of them. I know that sounds like a cop out answer, but it's true. There's a danger when you start elevating one player's importance above the others. You've seen that in the England National team and you even saw that at Liverpool last year, which I won't get into.

Interesting stuff there.
 
Im in group one baby and Brendan makes me fucking hard.
I LOVE this guy.
Hes fucking so powerful. He demands respect with his every utterance. I cant wait to see him interviewed in the press next year. I am stupidly, childishly, gayly excited and optimistic about next season with no reason other than the fact this guy seems like THE guy.
Makes for fucking weird reading on SCM. Call him Rodgers.
 
So why did you leave?
I've always said - always - that I'm not the type to chase money. That wasn't a factor in my decision. I've always outlined that I have a career plan, and Liverpool is my next step in that. They're a step to the overall goal.

What is the overall goal?
If I told you that I'd have to kill you!
No, really, it's no secret. I want to win things. I suppose every manager does. I believe I can do that with Liverpool, or at least give myself the platform to show that I'm capable of doing that. That's the thing, even just being at a club like Liverpool gives you the platform to show what you can do. You have greater exposure. It puts you in the shop window so to speak, rather than in the warehouse.

Wonder what the next step on his career plan is?

I'm hoping Northern Ireland
 
saw this on the swansea forum, some interesting answers

What style of play will you be looking to use?
I don't consider it a style of play. It's an ethos. We'll be looking to play with our brains, not our hearts. Intelligence is key for me. Ball retention, team play - nobody looking to be a hero. It goes back to elevating one player. You look at Barcelona, and even Messi is fighting for the team - not for himself. Football is very much a team game, and anybody who doesn't realise that will not play for me. That's one thing that's not negotiable for me.

I liked this part.



http://www.sabotagetimes.com/footba...ds-5-players-to-bring-tika-taka-to-liverpool/

This article outlines what positions Liverpool will have to address. The bit i've bolded in the midfield section is what intrigued me as I hadn't really given it much thought.


Anyone who watched Swansea last season knows: Brendan Rodgers likes his team to play football. Not just any football, tika-taka football. Modelled on those (previously) all-conquering beasts in Barcelona, his Swansea side proved that the seductive style of play made famous in Catalonia isn’t reserved exclusively for Europe’s elite.

In guiding a side, who many predicted to come rock bottom, to a respectable 11th place, he exceeded all expectations (except maybe his own) and gained the respect of plenty of people within the game of football. It wasn’t just their league position that caught the eye however – after all, Paul Lambert achieved similar feats at Norwich this season – it was the way they went about it. Possession based football is in Rodgers DNA, it’s what has brought him success so far, and you can bet it’s what he’s banking on bringing him success at Liverpool. Which begs the question; can tika-taka football be implemented with success at Anfield?

The obvious answer is yes. If Rodgers was able to achieve 11th place with Swansea using this strategy, then a Liverpool side who are technically superior in every area of the pitch should be able to do the business. However, Liverpool aren’t looking to finish 11th, or 10th, or 9th, and certainly not in the 8th spot that they finished under King Kenny. For Liverpool next season the minimum requirement must be a spot in the top 6, with the goal of Champion’s League football within the next two seasons. I’m in no doubt Brendan Rodgers is the man to do it, but if he is to do so in his very specific style, there’s a few squad issues he’ll need to sort out first:


The back four
Required: one fast, attacking left back and one technically gifted centre back
Swansea’s play last season was heavily reliant on keeping possession at the back. You’ve all seen Barca do it; the two centre backs spread wide, ready to receive the ball from the goalkeeper, and everything builds from there. This is not natural for most defenders; if they were that comfortable on the ball they’d probably be playing in a more advanced position to begin with. It’s likely Martin Skrtel will struggle to play the ball out from the back consistently to the level Rodgers will demand. Agger, though more technically gifted than Skrtel, may also find the going tough in the new system. Teams playing possession based football are prone to counter attacks (as Real Madrid and Chelsea demonstrated beautifully this season) and in these situations his lack of pace could be exposed.

The two full backs will play in slightly advanced positions, helping to provide the width which compensates for a narrow midfield three. In order to do this effectively at the top level they need to possess pace (think Dani Alves and Eric Abidal). Glen Johnson should thrive in this system, his eagerness to burst forward will be encouraged, and he’ll offer a significant attacking threat in the final third. Jose Enrique however does not possess the same physical attributes or level of ability as the man on the opposite flank. A lack of acceleration means Enrique is prone to being exposed in one on one situations. This average speed will more pressingly result in a struggle to both support attacks effectively on the overlap, and get back into position when an attack breaks down.

It may seem as if I’m putting a ridiculously high premium on pace – I am, but justifiably so. At the top level, which is where Liverpool aspire to be, speed is a huge factor. Almost all modern day attackers who play in the Champion’s League have it, therefore any defender who lacks pace and is not exceptional in their positioning for ninety minutes will be exposed.

Midfield
Required: One, if not two, creative midfield players
In order to keep possession to Rodger’s wishes, his formation requires three central midfielders all doing that most simple of things – passing and moving. They also need to press fast when out of possession, so mobility is a huge factor when looking at who will fit into Liverpool’s new style of play. Lucas will suit the system well; his ability to intercept and break up play will help his side recycle possession quickly. The other two midfield slots are anyone’s guess. Steven Gerrard is the obvious name that comes to mind, but for all his qualities the tactical discipline, movement and high level of pressing required in Rodger’s system mean it’s hard to see him being a smooth fit.

One possible alternative for Stevie, and don’t think Rodgers won’t consider this, is moving him to centre back. The precedent has already been set at Athletic Bilbao where Marcelo Bielsa, in need of a player confident enough to bring the ball out from defence when converting the side to possession based football, moved the defensive midfield anchor Javi Martinez into the role. If by some miracle you didn’t catch them on TV, this move yielded excellent results for both the team and individual.

The rest of Liverpool’s midfield options simply don’t look like they’ll fit the bill. Jordan Henderson is the most likely starter of those remaining, but still has a long way to go in his development as a player. His movement and energy levels, two vital attributes to being part of Rodger’s midfield engine, are very good, but it’s in the final third where he needs to improve most. Decisive passing in key areas, something required of the advanced midfielders in this system, is not yet part of Henderson’s repertoire. Shelvey and Spearing fall into the category of young midfield players who will need to progress significantly if they wish to be part of Liverpool’s tika-taka future. As for Charlie Adam, a man who signed for the club a mere twelve months ago, he might want to have serious talks with the new manager. It’s hard to see a player whose main asset is long diagonal balls, and who offers little in the way of movement, thriving in Rodger’s system.

The front three
Required: goal scoring striker with good mobility and link up play

The words movement and mobility have crept up a lot in this article, and rightly so, because they are key components to tika-taka football. Remember Carrick being put on the ‘Barcelona carousel’ back in Rome? Players constantly passing and moving, passing and moving, all around him – he didn’t stand a chance. Movement allows players to quickly make space to receive a pass, drag the opponents out of position, and most importantly it means all eleven men are able to swiftly and effectively put pressure on the ball when out of possession.

Good mobility is a quality Andy Carroll does not possess. For this reason alone he will not fit Rodger’s plans. Balls in the air, crosses and aerial battles are clearly what he thrives on, and there won’t be many of those under the new regime. As for pressing from the front, Carroll’s lack of pace means Liverpool won’t be able to do this effectively if he plays, and so won’t be able to recycle possession as quickly as Rodgers demands. The obvious alternative is to play Suarez in attack as he possesses many of the qualities needed for this system. However, and it’s a big however, Suarez probably isn’t quite clinical enough in front of goal to be the main goal scoring threat. A more appealing prospect would be for him and Downing (yes, Downing) to play as inverted wingers, and for Liverpool to sign a striker to fill the void. Quite how the owners would feel about spending big bucks on another striker after the £35 million they trumped up for Andy Carroll is another matter.

So to summarise, Rodgers could ideally do with a cultured centre back, a fast attacking left back, a creative midfielder (or two) and a goal scoring centre forward. That’s not too much to ask for, right?
 
How about B.A.? has a ring to it.. the term D.A. is discredited, synonymous with fans flight of fancy. B.A. on the other hand, seems to indicate we'll give the rest of the league a good Rodgering...
 
How about B.A.? has a ring to it.. the term D.A. is discredited, synonymous with fans flight of fancy. B.A. on the other hand, seems to indicate we'll give the rest of the league a good Rodgering...
I pity the fool that doesn't like B.A.
 
I'm not sure if anyone remembers me talking about a Red friend of mine who died of cancer 3 years ago.

His Uncle is a mad Red and just did the pilgrimage this week; there's a picture of him on FB with his arm around Rodgers shoulders taken today.
Must have been tickled pink, even if he was a big Kenny fan.
 
What good does it do to alienate Whelan like that?

I don't want us to try to be in his good books, that's not what i mean...but there really is no point in doing the opposite.
 
How about B.A.? has a ring to it.. the term D.A. is discredited, synonymous with fans flight of fancy. B.A. on the other hand, seems to indicate we'll give the rest of the league a good Rodgering...
To be honest I thought you would be more concerned thinking up your next "manager out" thread title.
Lucky for you we didn't appoint Martinez
 
stevie as a centre back? he'd get sent off every game

Swansea had the best Fair Play Statistics last year so to fit in the new system Stevie will have to be disciplined and not launch himself in for crunching tackles.
 
To be honest I thought you would be more concerned thinking up your next "manager out" thread title.
Lucky for you we didn't appoint Martinez

Count Count Count, how can you man say that? For every manager that comes in lowering expectations, I feel I have to overcompensate and raise them. Roy out was justified, and no-one can say it wasn't. Martinez would have just been the same again. I couldn't have watched. And as I have said a man gets only one manager out thread in his lifetime. That was mine. Jaysus.
 
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Book was very good
 
Did anyone hear Holloway on Talksport this morning? Looks like Shelvey is moving to Blackpool in part exchange for Thomas Ince. How embarrassing if we're getting Ince back in a cash plus Shelvey deal. Still it shows Rodgers isn't messing around and is matching players to specific roles in the team. I expect Ince will be an understudy to someone or other. I feel bad for Shelvey though, but I reckon one good season and he'll be back in the premiership and I just made that up.
 
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