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Talks of Rodgers daughter getting abused and threats of violence and rape on social media from our own fans.
Probably not true but fucking embarrassing if there's a modicum of truth to it.
 
Talks of Rodgers daughter getting abused and threats of violence and rape on social media from our own fans.
Probably not true but fucking embarrassing if there's a modicum of truth to it.
It's the Internet. People are too stupid to realise that saying things in a pub to mates is different to tweeting someone directly with threats when they're drunk.

The Internet. It's a magnet for the stupid.
 
Didn't we all come to the conclusion in the Arsenal thread that the long term stability in their club is the reason for their success?

Yet every time we run into trouble the proposed solution is to change the manager and/or get in new ownership.

I'm not saying you shouldn't make changes when they are clearly warranted but shuffling the deck every 3-4 years doesn't seem like a long term solution either.
 
Didn't we all come to the conclusion in the Arsenal thread that the long term stability in their club is the reason for their success?

Yet every time we run into trouble the proposed solution is to change the manager and/or get in new ownership.

I'm not saying you shouldn't make changes when they are clearly warranted but shuffling the deck every 3-4 years doesn't seem like a long term solution either.


Not my quote "Stability is fine when it is the byproduct of competence. When it becomes the goal itself, corrosion sets in"
 
It still seems remarkable to me that you can lose 6-1 to Stoke City and keep your job.

There's not a fucking way on Earth that if a Manchester United, Manchester City, or Chelsea manager lost 6-1 to Stoke that they'd keep their job. Probably why those three sides have accounted for the last 11 league titles.

Act like a 6th place club, and you'll end up as one.
 
I thought he deserved one more season and it looks like he will get it.

Massive pressure to start strong next season and for any signings to hit the ground running.
 
Talks if Rodgers daughter getting abused and threats of violence and rape on social media from our own fans.
Probably not true but fucking embarrassing if there's a modicum of truth to it.
That's sickening if true..

But sadly that's the mentality of a small minority of fans who get access to the Internet unfortunately..
 
It still seems remarkable to me that you can lose 6-1 to Stoke City and keep your job.

There's not a fucking way on Earth that if a Manchester United, Manchester City, or Chelsea manager lost 6-1 to Stoke that they'd keep their job. Probably why those three sides have accounted for the last 11 league titles.

Act like a 6th place club, and you'll end up as one.

Yep despite my moaning.. that's exactly how I see it..

Though looking at it from @Wolands perspective you can see why and tend to think the owners do have other ideas..
 
Im happy the club have not been trigger happy.
Its blatantly obvious this is not the time to sack our manager.
This is the time to calmly rebuild. Things are finally moving positively off the field after near paralysis for twenty years where the club has been left behind by a lot of clubs in England. Yet here we are arguing like dumb fucks over spending millions on sacking a manager and his team and bringing in a new team with a new manager who will have his own five year plan of mediocrity.

What is the point? We are not going to become the best club in England overnight, why are we so anxious to waste money to achieve nothing, when we have a manager who has shown to be competant for the most part. There are lots of positives with Brendan for all his failings. Dig up posts in this forum from 6 months back if you dont believe me.

Just focus on reinforcing the team we currently we have( i dont just mean players) get on with things...next year we may feel a lot better about our position.
 
It still seems remarkable to me that you can lose 6-1 to Stoke City and keep your job.

There's not a fucking way on Earth that if a Manchester United, Manchester City, or Chelsea manager lost 6-1 to Stoke that they'd keep their job. Probably why those three sides have accounted for the last 11 league titles.

Act like a 6th place club, and you'll end up as one.
Of course at Chelsea you can win a European Cup and still lose your job. I don't think we need to follow the examples set by Chelsea and City when it comes to firing managers.
 
It still seems remarkable to me that you can lose 6-1 to Stoke City and keep your job.



There's not a fucking way on Earth that if a Manchester United, Manchester City, or Chelsea manager lost 6-1 to Stoke that they'd keep their job. Probably why those three sides have accounted for the last 11 league titles.



Act like a 6th place club, and you'll end up as one.

United conceded 5 goals to Leicester City this season. As bad a result it was, it's retarded to talk about sacking a manager with the basis of the sacking being one, admittedly terrible, result.
 
Yeah to sack a manager based on one result is a bad daft. Things like that can happen. When you've been rubbish all season, clearly lost the dressing room, lost easily over half the fan base, played people out of position, had one good season out of 3.....well.

I really hope I'm made to eat my words next season.
 
I didn't think I needed to add the whole preamble about coming 6th, being fucking rubbish in every competition, getting dicked in Europe, and wasting hundreds of millions to my 6-1 defeat point.

I thought that went without saying.

Guess I was wrong.
 
United conceded 5 goals to Leicester City this season. As bad a result it was, it's retarded to talk about sacking a manager with the basis of the sacking being one, admittedly terrible, result.


United lost that game by 2 goals Mark.
 
I didn't think I needed to add the whole preamble about coming 6th, being fucking rubbish in every competition, getting dicked in Europe, and wasting hundreds of millions to my 6-1 defeat point.

I thought that went without saying.

Guess I was wrong.
Chelsea and City have sacked managers after winning cups and qualifying for the CL...should we follow their lead?
 
It still seems remarkable to me that you can lose 6-1 to Stoke City and keep your job.

There's not a fucking way on Earth that if a Manchester United, Manchester City, or Chelsea manager lost 6-1 to Stoke that they'd keep their job. Probably why those three sides have accounted for the last 11 league titles.

Act like a 6th place club, and you'll end up as one.

Didn't Ferguson lose 6-1 to City?
 
- agreed “a comprehensive plan for improvement”
- “productive meeting to review the season”

allegedly in 2 hours.

They could've save the trouble of flying over (probably the reason why John Henry gave it a miss).
 
United conceded 5 goals to Leicester City this season. As bad a result it was, it's retarded to talk about sacking a manager with the basis of the sacking being one, admittedly terrible, result.
5-3.. ? I would hardly call that in the same breath as What happend against Stoke.. Arsenal, Real Madrid and Manchester UTD. .

Leicester just outscored Manchester UTD which was made easier with their makeshift defence.

You know the similar thing that we did at times last Season (13/14)... Because we had to.... because our defending was god awful...
 
Yeah to sack a manager based on one result is a bad daft. Things like that can happen. When you've been rubbish all season, clearly lost the dressing room, lost easily over half the fan base, played people out of position, had one good season out of 3.....well.

I really hope I'm made to eat my words next season.


This.
 
Since these lizards bought the club revenues are up massively through sponsorship and endorsements, every year since they bought the club for a relative pittance they've reduced the wage bill, even though the tv deal alone has something like tripled in the last 6 years. Carlsberg used to pay 7m a year for the shirt, now Standard Chartered pay 25 and Carlsberg still pay 6 just to be associated with us. The Warrior deal was the biggest ever globally at the time. Then there's all this dunkin donuts and Chevrolet bullshit. Somehow an extra 100 million quid has ended up on the top line, yet managers have had to sell to buy every year without fail. Net spend has never exceeded about 20 million quid. Their policy of buying cheap and young and selling anyone who shows real promise is in full swing. They're only expanding the stadium so they can rape the fans some more.

Rodgers clearly hasn't been given the players he's wanted... he didn't want Balotelli... and while he dealt with that and the others badly, it shows that the problem certainly doesn't start and end with him. He's also in his first major job and knows if he's sacked it'll probably be his last, hence he's desperate to stick it out. With that in mind he's never going to do a Benitez and take the club on publicly regarding any of the failings. The owners know this and so he's the ideal fall guy for them to have in place whilst they play their money-making game. In summary, we're fucked. These lizards are Hicks and Gillett with a better PR team. They bought us for peanuts and now we're worth billions. Rodgers is their pawn in place to keep us bubbling along at zero cost until the perfect moment to sell at massive profit presents itself.

Well the club is still paying interest on loans, and they've probably put in a little more money than Hicks and Gillett so there is some value in the comparison.

However, the wage bill has never actually reduced, it has increased slightly. I'm aware their were stories about the reductions but none of them ever factored in new deals or signings into the equation.

Our losses in the three financial years previous to this one were 49m, 40m and 49m.

And we're also making stadium improvements. There's no real mystery with the financial situation unless you ignore the real figures and just listen to media reports.
 
Didn't we all come to the conclusion in the Arsenal thread that the long term stability in their club is the reason for their success?

Yet every time we run into trouble the proposed solution is to change the manager and/or get in new ownership.

I'm not saying you shouldn't make changes when they are clearly warranted but shuffling the deck every 3-4 years doesn't seem like a long term solution either.

Madrid change managers regularly and have more success than us
 
Well the club is still paying interest on loans, and they've probably put in a little more money than Hicks and Gillett so there is some value in the comparison.

However, the wage bill has never actually reduced, it has increased slightly. I'm aware their were stories about the reductions but none of them ever factored in new deals or signings into the equation.

Our losses in the three financial years previous to this one were 49m, 40m and 49m.

And we're also making stadium improvements. There's no real mystery with the financial situation unless you ignore the real figures and just listen to media reports.

I've only noted the top line improvement and seen no more going out. I thought those losses were mostly down to writing stuff off - but are they actually spending all the extra income on the squad / investment? It doesn't seem possible.
 
I don't think they'd lose that much by booting out Rodgers and his staff. If the likes of Marsh and Pascoe are on much at all then someone's truly incompetent. They'll lose far more in the long term by sticking with an under-performing set-up. They certainly need to go through all of Rodgers' backroom staff and weed out the waste. He has an entire team of video and data analysts, for god's sake - whatever they do it's not helping. Then there's the ex-Swansea mob who run the sports science and fitness side of the operation - again, if FSG think that's giving value for money they're crazy.
 
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