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Other games 14-19 Feb

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Fuck me that is a ridiculous amount of empty seats. They've spread everyone out to try to make it look more, but it's barely half full in the lower tiers.

Good job their loyal fans are sticking with then through thick & thin, eh?

See, it's this sort of shit that makes a farce of the claim that somehow there's some virtue to City cheating their way to success, because the alternative is some entrenched system of haves and have nots.

How on earth is it more just to have the arbitrary investment whims of some rich fuck decide things? As though it's ok that capitalism is not a meritocracy, because there's a lottery, or you could be taken in as the pitiable ward of some aristocrat.

Man City aren't a big club. They weren't when they didn't have money, and they still aren't now. It makes sense that they can't compete with Liverpool or United. They have no business doing so.

Why should they break in, instead of a whole mess of better supported clubs, some of which have far richer histories, and more success?

If you want every club to have some chance of victory, then you are looking at an NFL model. Neither the current model, nor random benefactors, are fair, but the former is more meritocratic, as disturbing as that might be for those on the outside. Well run clubs do have more of a chance of breaking in, even if mobility is the exception, and not the rule.
 
See, it's this sort of shit that makes a farce of the claim that somehow there's some virtue to City cheating their way to success, because the alternative is some entrenched system of haves and have nots.

How on earth is it more just to have the arbitrary investment whims of some rich fuck decide things? As though it's ok that capitalism is not a meritocracy, because there's a lottery, or you could be taken in as the pitiable ward of some aristocrat.

Man City aren't a big club. They weren't when they didn't have money, and they still aren't now. It makes sense that they can't compete with Liverpool or United. They have no business doing so.

Why should they break in, instead of a whole mess of better supported clubs, some of which have far richer histories, and more success?

If you want every club to have some chance of victory, then you are looking at an NFL model. Neither the current model, nor random benefactors, are fair, but the former is more meritocratic, as disturbing as that might be for those on the outside. Well run clubs do have more of a chance of breaking in, even if mobility is the exception, and not the rule.

I think it's only fair to point out that, without huge investment from owners, it's almost impossible to 'break in' to that elite group of storied and successful global clubs, despite what points you make about who might deserve it more, based on historical success and/ or fanbase.

That's why this has happened
 
I think it's only fair to point out that, without huge investment from owners, it's almost impossible to 'break in' to that elite group of storied and successful global clubs, despite what points you make about who might deserve it more, based on historical success and/ or fanbase.

That's why this has happened

Right, my point is, randomly buying your way in is not more meritocratic than an old boys club. People are acting like one is the antidote to the other, when breaking in on merit over years is very difficult, while the other relies on randomly being the most decadent, and least deserving charity, in the world.
 
Yes, but it could be argued that it does increase competition, expand the number of elite clubs and thus dilute that power slightly.

Perhaps, but only accidentally. Some people are acting like they're rightfully ignoring an unjust law, when they're just doing whatever they want and expecting to get away with it.
 
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