scot parker would be a very welcome addition to the squad
Mascherano going then?
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[quote author=Doped White Mouse link=topic=41151.msg1142939#msg1142939 date=1280217694]
There's no way that Eto'o is going to join us. And even less in a part exchange deal.
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The depressing monotone voice of reason.
There's no way that Eto'o is going to join us. And even less in a part exchange deal.
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The depressing monotone voice of reason.
There is no way Parker would cost 15 mill.
The problem is how we're going to replace Mascherano when he goes.
There are not many holding midfielders of his calibre around these days.
Parker may be a short term solution as he's 30 years old in a few weeks. Hardly one for the future. But is experienced, knows the league, can do a job for us.
Another option is Lee Cattermole. At 22 he is significantly younger than Parker and could be one for the future. The problem is can he do a job for us on the short term? Relying on a younger player who only played for lesser clubs until now could prove a gamble. And I doubt we are in a position to gamble.
What other solutions are there?
Felipe Melo? I doubt Juventus would sell.
Bastian Schweinsteiger? Bayern definitely won't sell.
It would be best for us if nobody would come up with a decent offer for Mascherano and he'd stay for another year.
There are not many holding midfielders of his calibre around these days.
Parker may be a short term solution as he's 30 years old in a few weeks. Hardly one for the future. But is experienced, knows the league, can do a job for us.
Another option is Lee Cattermole. At 22 he is significantly younger than Parker and could be one for the future. The problem is can he do a job for us on the short term? Relying on a younger player who only played for lesser clubs until now could prove a gamble. And I doubt we are in a position to gamble.
What other solutions are there?
Felipe Melo? I doubt Juventus would sell.
Bastian Schweinsteiger? Bayern definitely won't sell.
It would be best for us if nobody would come up with a decent offer for Mascherano and he'd stay for another year.
[quote author=crump link=topic=41151.msg1142956#msg1142956 date=1280218602]
[quote author=Doped White Mouse link=topic=41151.msg1142955#msg1142955 date=1280218469]
Relying on a younger player who only played for lesser clubs until now could prove a gamble.
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What, like Masch? Curbishley thought Hayden Mullins was better than him.
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Mascherano played for River Plate and Corinthinas before he joined West Ham in a dubious deal 2007. Hardly small clubs in South America. Moreover he already was a regular in Argentina's WC campaign 2006.
No, not like Masch.
[quote author=Doped White Mouse link=topic=41151.msg1142955#msg1142955 date=1280218469]
Relying on a younger player who only played for lesser clubs until now could prove a gamble.
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What, like Masch? Curbishley thought Hayden Mullins was better than him.
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Mascherano played for River Plate and Corinthinas before he joined West Ham in a dubious deal 2007. Hardly small clubs in South America. Moreover he already was a regular in Argentina's WC campaign 2006.
No, not like Masch.
[quote author=crump link=topic=41151.msg1142956#msg1142956 date=1280218602]
[quote author=Doped White Mouse link=topic=41151.msg1142955#msg1142955 date=1280218469]
Relying on a younger player who only played for lesser clubs until now could prove a gamble.
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What, like Masch? Curbishley thought Hayden Mullins was better than him.
[/quote]So did Ryan o'hare.
[quote author=Doped White Mouse link=topic=41151.msg1142955#msg1142955 date=1280218469]
Relying on a younger player who only played for lesser clubs until now could prove a gamble.
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What, like Masch? Curbishley thought Hayden Mullins was better than him.
[/quote]So did Ryan o'hare.
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=41151.msg1142966#msg1142966 date=1280219034]
I'm actually a bit frustrated.
If it were always clear that he'd be giving us one more year and that's it, we should have been more motivated to sell him much much earlier.
As it stands now, any potential transfer is going to resemble Owen's instead of Xabi's.
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The one more year is only now applicable because Rafa got the boot. If Rafa stayed, he would have signed the new contract.
I'm actually a bit frustrated.
If it were always clear that he'd be giving us one more year and that's it, we should have been more motivated to sell him much much earlier.
As it stands now, any potential transfer is going to resemble Owen's instead of Xabi's.
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The one more year is only now applicable because Rafa got the boot. If Rafa stayed, he would have signed the new contract.
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=41151.msg1142966#msg1142966 date=1280219034]
I'm actually a bit frustrated.
If it were always clear that he'd be giving us one more year and that's it, we should have been more motivated to sell him much much earlier.
As it stands now, any potential transfer is going to resemble Owen's instead of Xabi's.
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What. The. Fuck.
Owen was a £20m+ player, who ended up going for 8m.
Mascher is a £25-30m player who will gor for £20-25m.
Is he going to go for less than half of what hes worth? No.
What are you fucking blithering about?
I'm actually a bit frustrated.
If it were always clear that he'd be giving us one more year and that's it, we should have been more motivated to sell him much much earlier.
As it stands now, any potential transfer is going to resemble Owen's instead of Xabi's.
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What. The. Fuck.
Owen was a £20m+ player, who ended up going for 8m.
Mascher is a £25-30m player who will gor for £20-25m.
Is he going to go for less than half of what hes worth? No.
What are you fucking blithering about?
[quote author=grjt link=topic=41151.msg1142972#msg1142972 date=1280219469]
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=41151.msg1142966#msg1142966 date=1280219034]
I'm actually a bit frustrated.
If it were always clear that he'd be giving us one more year and that's it, we should have been more motivated to sell him much much earlier.
As it stands now, any potential transfer is going to resemble Owen's instead of Xabi's.
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What. The. Fuck.
Owen was a £20m+ player, who ended up going for 8m.
Mascher is a £25-30m player who will gor for £20-25m.
Is he going to go for less than half of what hes worth? No.
What are you fucking blithering about?
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Perhaps he's talking about how the negotiations with Madrid over the ransfer of Alonso took a while, and by the time it had finally been agreed, we rushed out and bought a spaz because it was getting rather close to the start of our season.
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=41151.msg1142966#msg1142966 date=1280219034]
I'm actually a bit frustrated.
If it were always clear that he'd be giving us one more year and that's it, we should have been more motivated to sell him much much earlier.
As it stands now, any potential transfer is going to resemble Owen's instead of Xabi's.
[/quote]
What. The. Fuck.
Owen was a £20m+ player, who ended up going for 8m.
Mascher is a £25-30m player who will gor for £20-25m.
Is he going to go for less than half of what hes worth? No.
What are you fucking blithering about?
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Perhaps he's talking about how the negotiations with Madrid over the ransfer of Alonso took a while, and by the time it had finally been agreed, we rushed out and bought a spaz because it was getting rather close to the start of our season.
Do we really need another holding midfielder though? Who purely defends the back four and only sits infront of them?
It really depens on how Roy will play doesn't it, if we're going to play 4-4-2 then I'd rather get a midfielder that offers something going forward aswell.
Parker
Khedira
Cambiasso (though I doubt that will happen)
Sissoko (from Toulouse not the other one...)
Defour
It really depens on how Roy will play doesn't it, if we're going to play 4-4-2 then I'd rather get a midfielder that offers something going forward aswell.
Parker
Khedira
Cambiasso (though I doubt that will happen)
Sissoko (from Toulouse not the other one...)
Defour
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=41151.msg1142974#msg1142974 date=1280219671]
[quote author=grjt link=topic=41151.msg1142972#msg1142972 date=1280219469]
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=41151.msg1142966#msg1142966 date=1280219034]
I'm actually a bit frustrated.
If it were always clear that he'd be giving us one more year and that's it, we should have been more motivated to sell him much much earlier.
As it stands now, any potential transfer is going to resemble Owen's instead of Xabi's.
[/quote]
What. The. Fuck.
Owen was a £20m+ player, who ended up going for 8m.
Mascher is a £25-30m player who will gor for £20-25m.
Is he going to go for less than half of what hes worth? No.
What are you fucking blithering about?
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Perhaps he's talking about how the negotiations with Madrid over the ransfer of Alonso took a while, and by the time it had finally been agreed, we rushed out and bought a spaz because it was getting rather close to the start of our season.
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The two events being related because.....theyre both football transfers? I dont see too much of a link beyond that.
Alonso's protracted transfer took so long because i) the player did not feel he should have to put in a transfer request after being hawked round Europe for over 12mths ii) Real Madrids valuation being heavily aligned to the fee we were trying to secure less than a year before. Both things took time to resolve.
In this case - Mascher has stated he wants to go, Roy wants the money, Inter have the money, Benitez wants him. Unless Barca remortgage Messi's short and curlies and come in with a bid, the deal will get done pretty promptly.
[quote author=grjt link=topic=41151.msg1142972#msg1142972 date=1280219469]
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=41151.msg1142966#msg1142966 date=1280219034]
I'm actually a bit frustrated.
If it were always clear that he'd be giving us one more year and that's it, we should have been more motivated to sell him much much earlier.
As it stands now, any potential transfer is going to resemble Owen's instead of Xabi's.
[/quote]
What. The. Fuck.
Owen was a £20m+ player, who ended up going for 8m.
Mascher is a £25-30m player who will gor for £20-25m.
Is he going to go for less than half of what hes worth? No.
What are you fucking blithering about?
[/quote]
Perhaps he's talking about how the negotiations with Madrid over the ransfer of Alonso took a while, and by the time it had finally been agreed, we rushed out and bought a spaz because it was getting rather close to the start of our season.
[/quote]
The two events being related because.....theyre both football transfers? I dont see too much of a link beyond that.
Alonso's protracted transfer took so long because i) the player did not feel he should have to put in a transfer request after being hawked round Europe for over 12mths ii) Real Madrids valuation being heavily aligned to the fee we were trying to secure less than a year before. Both things took time to resolve.
In this case - Mascher has stated he wants to go, Roy wants the money, Inter have the money, Benitez wants him. Unless Barca remortgage Messi's short and curlies and come in with a bid, the deal will get done pretty promptly.
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=41151.msg1142975#msg1142975 date=1280219788]
Do we really need another holding midfielder though? Who purely defends the back four and only sits infront of them?
It really depens on how Roy will play doesn't it, if we're going to play 4-4-2 then I'd rather get a midfielder that offers something going forward aswell.
Parker
Khedira
Cambiasso (though I doubt that will happen)
Sissoko (from Toulouse not the other one...)
Defour
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Realistic and attractive - Parker or Defour.
Wouldn't mind Cattermole, but is he becoming injury prone, and is he simply a poor mans Mascherano?
Do we really need another holding midfielder though? Who purely defends the back four and only sits infront of them?
It really depens on how Roy will play doesn't it, if we're going to play 4-4-2 then I'd rather get a midfielder that offers something going forward aswell.
Parker
Khedira
Cambiasso (though I doubt that will happen)
Sissoko (from Toulouse not the other one...)
Defour
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Realistic and attractive - Parker or Defour.
Wouldn't mind Cattermole, but is he becoming injury prone, and is he simply a poor mans Mascherano?
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=41151.msg1142982#msg1142982 date=1280220306]
Sky Sports News had some stats up before that showed we had a better win % without Masch and lost less games when he didn't play.
Nicked this from another site, thats quite interesting.
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No it isn't.
Sky Sports News had some stats up before that showed we had a better win % without Masch and lost less games when he didn't play.
Nicked this from another site, thats quite interesting.
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No it isn't.
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=41151.msg1142982#msg1142982 date=1280220306]
Sky Sports News had some stats up before that showed we had a better win % without Masch and lost less games when he didn't play.
Nicked this from another site, thats quite interesting.
[/quote]Oh dear. Is there anything you wouldn't try to spin positively?
Mascherano played in all our toughest games. When he didn't play we were playing against bottom half dross. It's hardly a suprising stat.
Sky Sports News had some stats up before that showed we had a better win % without Masch and lost less games when he didn't play.
Nicked this from another site, thats quite interesting.
[/quote]Oh dear. Is there anything you wouldn't try to spin positively?
Mascherano played in all our toughest games. When he didn't play we were playing against bottom half dross. It's hardly a suprising stat.
Exactly, and he made the difference in those big games more than once. The other top teams will be chuffed to monkeys if/when he goes.
Mascher is a monster player and he will be sorely missed. However, we cant put another player straight into that position, but will have to adjust our game to what personell we have.
Honestly I think we missed Xabi more than we will miss Mascher.
Honestly I think we missed Xabi more than we will miss Mascher.
Whether we went and bought a spaz after we sold Alonso will be more clear this season, but Aquilani wasn't a panic buy. Rafa had been tracking him for ages and thought he was the best in his position, otherwise he'd have gone for Sneijder.
Anyways, some Italian dude just posted that reports over there say the deal is 30m plus Muntari - which values Muntari at minus 5 million.
Anyways, some Italian dude just posted that reports over there say the deal is 30m plus Muntari - which values Muntari at minus 5 million.
[quote author=crump link=topic=41151.msg1143005#msg1143005 date=1280221490]
Anyways, some Italian dude just posted that reports over there say the deal is 30m plus Muntari - which values Muntari at minus 5 million.
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Which is about right.
Anyways, some Italian dude just posted that reports over there say the deal is 30m plus Muntari - which values Muntari at minus 5 million.
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Which is about right.
[quote author=crump link=topic=41151.msg1143010#msg1143010 date=1280221747]
Did you see that goal he scored in the World Cup? It was boss.
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Yeah I did; but other than that he didn't do much.
Also, even if we get him we will still have to get a more defensive minded midfielder. I think Muntari is more attacking than defensive.
Did you see that goal he scored in the World Cup? It was boss.
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Yeah I did; but other than that he didn't do much.
Also, even if we get him we will still have to get a more defensive minded midfielder. I think Muntari is more attacking than defensive.
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