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Lucas + Johnson - the axis of awful

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Ideally yes, but I don't believe we will get a few decent attackers in

Maybe 1 alright one
 
Thing for me with Johnson is if his primary value is in attack, and he's basically worthless if he isn't contributing to the attack. Any one of our young RBs could do a comparable job in defense, which is why it's a real challenge to find a reason justifying keeping Johnson in the side if he's off form.


I'd like to see us at least get some like for like competition for Lucas, but we probably aren't going to move him as long as we still have Suarez. Maybe a reasonable cost option like Tiote would be a smart purchase.
 
Lucas is not as bad as people make out, but we should always be thinking about improvements - think Delph would be interesting, a mad engine on him, can pass and seems to have a bit of spike about him.
 
In all seriousness, if he can build on the good 25 minutes or so he's had in his first 7 seasons, he could be up there with the likes of Istvan Kozma and co. by the time he packs in.
 
The fact there are no decent DM's knocking about, coupled with less demand for one seems to have elevated Lucas' status somewhat.

He's something of a rare breed who seems to have gatecrashed the category that was once represented by Hamann, Makelele, Mascherano, etc
 
Some of our players are as good as the ones we had then. I reckon Gerrard and Suarez and Sturridge and Coutinho would be pushing for a place in any of our old sides. There's a few more who would be worth a debate on various European Cup winning squads.

So it's not a stupid question. You call him Wonderman when he's fucking gash. I thought that as you had such a high opinion of him you might think he was as good as some of those other players. But you don't. Which is good coz if you did you'd be off your head, coz he's shite.
 
Some of our players are as good as the ones we had then. I reckon Gerrard and Suarez and Sturridge and Coutinho would be pushing for a place in any of our old sides. There's a few more who would be worth a debate on various European Cup winning squads.

So it's not a stupid question. You call him Wonderman when he's fucking gash. I thought that as you had such a high opinion of him you might think he was as good as some of those other players. But you don't. Which is good coz if you did you'd be off your head, coz he's shite.
Youre off youre head if you think any of our players other than Gerrard (5 years ago) would get in our European cup sides.
I call him wonderman, because i support our players and our team.
Im not in control of who plays, who signs, who goes. So I just try to support the lads when they are here and in the most part hope for miracles. I think hes a good player. Not a great player and certainly not one of our all time greats. But thats ok, it doesnt make me want to lay into him for not being good enough. The CLUB isnt good enough.
If we we t out and signed Bender, Mascherano or any other worldie DM i'd want them in the team ahead of him, but we dont. We have Lucas. Who good or bad has given fucking everything he has for us for 7 years through fucking thick and thin. Hes played every game as hard as he can, and seen the European cup winning side he came into dismantled and asset stripped around him and never once complained about it. Players like Lucas and Agger in the main part get a bye from criticism from me. That isnt to say im a fucking mug and wouldnt replace them, but id replace others first. Ones who really couldnt give a fuck about this club or me or their team mates. Players like these two and Dirk deserve my fandom, so they get it.
I like them. I like them as men and I like them as representatives of something that means a lot to me. Thats why I call him Wonderman. I like you wish he played like Beckenbauer. I unlike you will continue to support him as if he does.
 
The above is the equivalent if me watching a coiple of episodes of Ally McBeal and thinking I could practice law.

I particularly liked the use of some selective stats to hammer home the points too.

Ironymuch?

The irony really is that you're the Lucas of the forum.

You show up a lot, but never manage to contribute anything positive. Just lots of clumsy fouls.
 
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Youre off youre head if you think any of our players other than Gerrard (5 years ago) would get in our European cup sides.
I call him wonderman, because i support our players and our team.
Im not in control of who plays, who signs, who goes. So I just try to support the lads when they are here and in the most part hope for miracles. I think hes a good player. Not a great player and certainly not one of our all time greats. But thats ok, it doesnt make me want to lay into him for not being good enough. The CLUB isnt good enough.
If we we t out and signed Bender, Mascherano or any other worldie DM i'd want them in the team ahead of him, but we dont. We have Lucas. Who good or bad has given fucking everything he has for us for 7 years through fucking thick and thin. Hes played every game as hard as he can, and seen the European cup winning side he came into dismantled and asset stripped around him and never once complained about it. Players like Lucas and Agger in the main part get a bye from criticism from me. That isnt to say im a fucking mug and wouldnt replace them, but id replace others first. Ones who really couldnt give a fuck about this club or me or their team mates. Players like these two and Dirk deserve my fandom, so they get it.
I like them. I like them as men and I like them as representatives of something that means a lot to me. Thats why I call him Wonderman. I like you wish he played like Beckenbauer. I unlike you will continue to support him as if he does.

Oh right. So he's crap but he works hard or whatever. I don't think he works that hard. He's no Dirk in that respect. Maybe he does and I'm blinded by his total shitness. Either way I loved Dirk not because he worked hard but because that work was effective. I just don't get it with Lucas.
 
Oh right. So he's crap but he works hard or whatever. I don't think he works that hard. He's no Dirk in that respect. Maybe he does and I'm blinded by his total shitness. Either way I loved Dirk not because he worked hard but because that work was effective. I just don't get it with Lucas.
I didnt say he was crap.
I knew I shouldnt have bothered responding.
Tsk.
 
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