Liverpool v Manchester United - Match Thread
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In the 1st half they were caught offside at least seven times and I don't remember one occasion when he played the advantage to us and on several of them we had counter attacks on the go. Maybe we're just lucky he didn't have the chance to give them a penalty as sure as shit he would have done.
Can we at least ban that green smiley face?
Just ban the twat who started using it.
Typical Portuguese playacting cunt.
It's a bit of both. He's a remarkably effective player for being technically deficient in some ways. We have seen his best form in a team playing perfectly to his strengths.
Trent's form and salahs form are also related. They make space for each other.
I don't know really.
He is easy to read, as he is always going to his left foot.
I also don't think he is particularly good at shielding the ball when he dribbles. He tries tricks and flicks with the ball mostly.
Lately we have dominated possession and pushed teams back, or had to contend with teams parking the bus, which negates his strengths of counter attacking.
Yeah this was my thought. Teams are going deep against us and we need Hendo and Fab in midfield to break the lock
Not the worst result against manu. We should have won it with the chances we had early on, but a draw against the mancs is well, not bad.
We probably play with fear because we know we can be had at the back. Having no true centre back is a massive hit, especially the way we play with the high line and all.
We probably play with fear because we know we can be had at the back. Having no true centre back is a massive hit, especially the way we play with the high line and all.
I believe that is where our main problems stem from, that is missing Henderson and Fabinho in midfield as opposse to being at CB,. The break up play,push uus forward and create chance for our strikers. Thiago adds quality. while Gini adds to that added goal threat. But without Henderson and Fabinho we are lacking. Need a quality CB if we are to rescue our season
We could play Matip and Williams or Philips against Burnley. Phillips is probably better suited to that style. We probably wont do it but we could.
We are playing a dangerous game this season - I really wonder now if we will even make a CL position, I honestly did not think throughout that game we would score and we didn't - we look completely incapable of scoring right now as soon as we face these busses, and the general consensus here about Hendo, Fab missing in midfield is a symptom of the issue and no matter how you look at any of this - us having no full time defenders to actually.. defend is fucking terrible. I cannot believe we are not going into the market to get one this January.
I believe that all teams will go through a dip in form this season. We have to remember the schedule that the players were submitted to, some of have had covid whilst we don't know what effects it has on them with family or friends. We've been terrible for the last month but we're still thereabouts ar the summit of the table.
In that first half the scummers played like West Brom, which is more scandalous than than Allardyce's tactics. We do need to sign at least one cb to free our first choice midfield into their rightful positions.
Decrying players in this side as past it or worse still, uninterested, after what they have achieved is just poor.
In that first half the scummers played like West Brom, which is more scandalous than than Allardyce's tactics. We do need to sign at least one cb to free our first choice midfield into their rightful positions.
Decrying players in this side as past it or worse still, uninterested, after what they have achieved is just poor.
The signings of Thiago and Jota certainly did show ambition, and displayed a dearie to evolve our game. We've just been desperately unlucky with injuries to both of them and elsewhere on the pitch, but I'm confident when we get Jota and Thiago both playing regularly then we'll improve significantly.
The slight concern I have is Klopp is very loyal to his players, and he's never been in a position where he has decided to move his best players. Going back to his Dortmund days when they all flocked to Bayern, to Coutinho and Wijnaldum at Liverpool, etc, it's always been the players choice.
Few managers last more than five years at a club and face the problems we are encountering, so Klopp has to rise to the challenge. If some players are no longer buying into the vision then they have to be ruthlessly replaced. Klopps game is all or nothing and putting in ninety five percent doesn't cut it.
Same same.
We all thought the same ... but then when man city win 8 straight, you realize that "dips in form" are ok (they had them), but not unless they're matched by good runs like this (which weve not had, and honestly, struggle to see us doing).
I would love if our manager stopped moaning about other team's tactics... we arent getting poor results, or not scoring, because of the opposition ...
Yup, and if he can (rise to the challenge), it will push him to an even higher regard ... just dont want to think about what if he doesn't ...
I haven't read this thread yet but I think this is yet more evidence of our front three, and arguably also the full backs feeling completely safe in their roles and starting positions. The intensity in the box is gone, the link up play is its worst ever, the link up with the full backs is terrible. We have become very predictable that when avenues look closed in the box we work it wide and whip it in. This has rarely ever been successful for us if the cross isn't made when not on a form of counter attack (but is potent when this is the case).
We need options, badly. All of the attackers could be benched at some point but they are playing like turd and getting to start every week.
Yes - it might help to get Hendo back in CM, but the CM unit wasn't the problem yesterday. We worked loads of chances into the box and around the box but simply wasted every single one.
We salvaged a point through Alisson, in a game that with switched on attackers we should have won by 3 or 4.
We need options, badly. All of the attackers could be benched at some point but they are playing like turd and getting to start every week.
Yes - it might help to get Hendo back in CM, but the CM unit wasn't the problem yesterday. We worked loads of chances into the box and around the box but simply wasted every single one.
We salvaged a point through Alisson, in a game that with switched on attackers we should have won by 3 or 4.
Really not sure where to start with that bit ... is it the ridiculous conduplicatio or the utter nonsense that is the issue here?
That is my feeling from the last 4 games! Every shot has been crap.
Thats one way to make me cry.
The only positive is that we have been utterly impotent for a month, like really really shit (with the best front three in the world etc etc) and are still in the mix.
One of the beautiful things of recent years is that one of them has always been in form but at the moment all three are off the boil, as are the full backs.
One of the beautiful things of recent years is that one of them has always been in form but at the moment all three are off the boil, as are the full backs.
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