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Yep I'm all for not going all Ten Hag on the issue, but . . . the facts still remain that we limped across the line with a squad last season that:

a) Won nothing
b) Came third in the league
c) Was playing in an easier European competition
d) Had more injuries than any other club in europe's top 5 leagues
f) Was a year younger

So one has to at least ponder why the strategy to win it all moving forwards seems to be, "let's go with a tweak in tactics."
 
As long as we have Morton, Endo and Grav, I think we can wait till Jan to address the #6 role. I think we need someone to compete with Salah... There's every chance we can go into the new season with no new signings and the bucks stops at Hughes as FSG have made £50m be available to sign someone. Hughes has Edwards and Ward to help out so no excuses.
 
Dirty Sanchez said:
Yep I'm all for not going all Ten Hag on the issue, but . . . the facts still remain that we limped across the line with a squad last season that:

a) Won nothing
b) Came third in the league
c) Was playing in an easier European competition
d) Had more injuries than any other club in europe's top 5 leagues
f) Was a year younger

So one has to at least ponder why the strategy to win it all moving forwards seems to be, "let's go with a tweak in tactics."
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Two sides to that.

The squad being a year older has advantages and disadvantages all over the park.

We won the league cup and went deep into all 4 competitions. If Klopp had concentrated on two or three then most would agree it would have been a better year. Slot should take that warning and bin off one or both of the domestic cups early.

A new coaching and backroom team methods can have a sizable impact on injury prevention.

We were a very comfortable third place, which many would take again in the first year post Klopp.

Not everything is rosey, but I don't think it's all that depressing either.
 
Dirty Sanchez said:
You didn't allow me to finish.
A) won nothing - except the easiest cup in football.
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It might be the least prestigious but surely the draw to the final determines if winning the league cup was easier than winning the FA cup.

Leicester (now Prem side), + overcoming 4 other Prem sides isn't exactly the kindest.

I'm proud of the team for beating Chelsea in the final despite half our team being out and filled up with 18/19 year olds.
 
Accedalyday said:
Carvalho £14.5m
Clark £10
Solanke sell-on clause £7m
Luis Alberto sell-on clause £2m.
Thiago and Matip’s wages off the bill.

Net Spend FC baby
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Don't forget the difference in wages from Klopp to Slot, another £10m a year there.

John must be treating himself to a nice new yacht.
 
Why is there such an expectation that new coaching setup will yield to less injuries? I see the logic but it sounds like we are banking on it. Were there less injuries with Rogers? Ten Haag and Poch had more injuries than us but they don’t play Klopps style either. Not convinced by that.
Also was told new director and transfer commitee would yield better transfers but that hasn’t so far played out either.
 
rubans said:
Why is there such an expectation that new coaching setup will yield to less injuries? I see the logic but it sounds like we are banking on it. Were there less injuries with Rogers? Ten Haag and Poch had more injuries than us but they don’t play Klopps style either. Not convinced by that.
Also was told new director and transfer commitee would yield better transfers but that hasn’t so far played out either.
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What I find strange is that many LFC fans were never saying this when Klopp was here, they would ignore it, but I think there will be less injuries regardless. Slot's system lets the ball do the work and requires less running - running can cause the injuries we have had, for instance I don't think Slob would have been as bad as he was in the 2nd part of the season had he not been used like a race-dog. There is more an expectation of more structure and less emotion under Slot.
 
rubans said:
Why is there such an expectation that new coaching setup will yield to less injuries? I see the logic but it sounds like we are banking on it. Were there less injuries with Rogers? Ten Haag and Poch had more injuries than us but they don’t play Klopps style either. Not convinced by that.
Also was told new director and transfer commitee would yield better transfers but that hasn’t so far played out either.
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Because of the magical powers!

"One of the main reasons Liverpool hired Slot, alongside his exciting playing style and ability to improve players, was his previous club Feyenoord’s almost magical powers when it came to preventing injuries. For three seasons, the Rotterdam side’s player availability levels were above 90 per cent, and Slot played a key role in that by listening carefully to the experts who made up one of the most successful medical and performance departments in world football.
One of those specialists was Peeters, a specialist at what is known as periodisation, who knew exactly how hard to push each individual at various points throughout a season without overloading their body. Every morning at Feyenoord, he provided Slot with a meticulous briefing on how long the group should train for and, like clockwork, the session would start and finish as suggested."

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/56...ries-ruben-peeters/?source=emp_shared_article
 
Squiggles said:
Because of the magical powers!

"One of the main reasons Liverpool hired Slot, alongside his exciting playing style and ability to improve players, was his previous club Feyenoord’s almost magical powers when it came to preventing injuries. For three seasons, the Rotterdam side’s player availability levels were above 90 per cent, and Slot played a key role in that by listening carefully to the experts who made up one of the most successful medical and performance departments in world football.
One of those specialists was Peeters, a specialist at what is known as periodisation, who knew exactly how hard to push each individual at various points throughout a season without overloading their body. Every morning at Feyenoord, he provided Slot with a meticulous briefing on how long the group should train for and, like clockwork, the session would start and finish as suggested."

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/56...ries-ruben-peeters/?source=emp_shared_article
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I will settle with magic for now, since the current data science knobs are unable buy another club or a player.
 
rubans said:
Why is there such an expectation that new coaching setup will yield to less injuries? I see the logic but it sounds like we are banking on it. Were there less injuries with Rogers? Ten Haag and Poch had more injuries than us but they don’t play Klopps style either. Not convinced by that.
Also was told new director and transfer commitee would yield better transfers but that hasn’t so far played out either.
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It's unlikely to be better than what we had.
 
When people start talking about replacing Andy, or even Simi- I honestly think that those guys did something personal to them. Robertson, got a few injuries, and Simi is the captain of his national team and a great crosser of the ball (actually both) are. I see no issue with them, and then on the back of that we also have Gomez who can cover. I would be pissed if we prioritize that position over a DM first, and then secondly as a Salah understudy. The fuck is wrong with this club.
 
Squiggles said:
Because of the magical powers!

"One of the main reasons Liverpool hired Slot, alongside his exciting playing style and ability to improve players, was his previous club Feyenoord’s almost magical powers when it came to preventing injuries. For three seasons, the Rotterdam side’s player availability levels were above 90 per cent, and Slot played a key role in that by listening carefully to the experts who made up one of the most successful medical and performance departments in world football.
One of those specialists was Peeters, a specialist at what is known as periodisation, who knew exactly how hard to push each individual at various points throughout a season without overloading their body. Every morning at Feyenoord, he provided Slot with a meticulous briefing on how long the group should train for and, like clockwork, the session would start and finish as suggested."

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/56...ries-ruben-peeters/?source=emp_shared_article
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90% available ? - amazing - every HR team in the country needs this fella.
 
I hate this 'wont make signings for signings sake' schtick. Like patting us on the head to placate us.

Im disappointed in the club this summer. We came third and have not strengthened, arguably weakened, and have not backed a new manager 'for signings sake'

As if we hadnt all noticed LAST YEAR that we needed a Centre Back, a DM and a back up LB as a minimum.

Do we magically expect our defense to improve this season with Endo, Quansa/Konate and an aging Virg, Robbo at the back?

I think it IS fair to expect our forward line to score more given the profligacy in front of goal last year. We CANT be that bad again.

Anyway. Not improving us at the back and claiming 'signings for signings sake' is a dereliction and not good enough.

#Thirdagain
 
Sorry mate but I'm with the club on this. There is no point signing players unless they improve us and we don't have a bottomless chequebook.
 
Judge Jules said:
Sorry mate but I'm with the club on this. There is no point signing players unless they improve us and we don't have a bottomless chequebook.
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Jules you could name 20 or 30 CBs who would improve us! And apparently we have NO chequebook.

If the inference is NO players out there can improve a weak backline then we are doomed.

I dont need Mbappe or Neymar mate, but we are not addressing our issues.
 
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