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tombrown said:
My philosophy is when you return to your childhood/teenage home, you should go retro & reminiscent. I was at me mum's a couple of year's back and started mixing myself "light & bitter", that I hadn't drunk since I was about 17. Fucking gash, like, but brought back memories.

In fact, when I was back in Liverpool for my daughter's 21st I had a pint of golden, for old times sake. Also fucking awful
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Should tell you all you need to know about reminiscing ! To be avoided at all costs.

It's a bit like people thinking living at Court in the 18th C would have been romantic just like on TV . Until you realise that they stank to high heaven, had all sorts of lice and bugs in their hair and ticks sucking away in their nether regions, gonorrhoea and syphilis was rife and their mouths were full of rotten teeth !
 
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StevieM said:
I found some Northern Monk in an ASDA on the shore road in Belfast.

Didn’t buy any… cause they were all fucking hazy IPAs, but. I bought some Beaverton American Pale Ale which will have to do since I can’t find any Sierra Nevada anywhere.

I also found a nice Adelaide Hills Shiraz and a decent selection of Whitewater Brewery beers at a Tesco’s in Glengormly.

I feel like bloody Indiana Jones searching for fucking treasure in remote and dangerous places…

… particularly the shore road ASDA… Larne isn’t feeling so bad after all…
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When in Norn I had a few Maggie's Leap IPA, tried it?
 
Frogfish said:
Ditto. Yes I know he's at Southampton (2 goals) but Elliott has a better record in half the games ! I don't see the point of signing a 19 year old for the first team and he'll be too expensive to just come and sit on the bench. Put that money towards Isak.
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Yeah, I’ve said a few times, there’s no value in most 18-21yo players for a team like Liverpool - high priced, but still developing, so might not continue to improve and usually not good enough yet to hold down a first team place.

So it’s risky.

At 22+ the cost can be more, but the risk reduced because they should be more proven and closer to peak years.

Of course there are players that are good enough (sometimes position dependent), but they’re rare.

I think Officer Dibling is one we look at in 2-3 years time - he’d be better off going to a team that’ll play & develop him, like Brighton or Bournemouth.
 
Frogfish said:
Ditto. Yes I know he's at Southampton (2 goals) but Elliott has a better record in half the games ! I don't see the point of signing a 19 year old for the first team and he'll be too expensive to just come and sit on the bench. Put that money towards Isak.
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Not sure he’d even make our bench, hasn’t really shown much besides being able to run with the ball a bit, I’m far from impressed and we had scouts who could tell their backsides from their elbows, they could find 50 talents as good if not better outside the country, and for a fraction of the price.
 
I don't see a problem with buying dibling, loaning him back to Southampton for a year, and then assessing.
 
Potential is potential but it needs to be developed. Can see that even at Brighton, there are quite a few gems that have not developed as expected, but that's fine for a club who is currently aiming to be consistently on the fringes of Europe. It won't work for a team aiming to win the League.

The Chelsea method of stockpiling prospects in the hope that one of them will be Messi is madness.

That said I would like us to sign one or two 17 - 19 y/o superkids who are truly special every other season. I'm hoping that kid will be Mastantuono.
 
If in demand players like Dibling were smart about it, they'd go to a development club - somewhere then can play and develop, and insist upon a release clause of £65M-£75M, or whatever, for any CL club.

Bournemouth, Brighton and Brentford are the best places for the likes of Dibling to progress.

The dumb ones sign their life away to Chelsea, or join Spurs, on some bizarre notion Spurs will become relevant to anything.
 
StevieM said:
Not if, as likely, Southampton ask for £40-50m.
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Depends really. His contract expires in 2026, and he'll be on a very low wage. Deals are there to be made, and if I was Dibling, I'd be demanding a reasonable release clause or I walk next year
 
Fabio said:
I don't see a problem with buying dibling, loaning him back to Southampton for a year, and then assessing.
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Fuck loaning him back down to the championship, when he's already looking decent in the PL. I'd have him straight in the first team squad, depending on how Doak fits in (if at all). What Dibling has in his favour to go with strong on-the-ball ability is a fairly big and athletic frame (at least it looked like that when I've seen him on the TV) which he will likely grow into over the next year or so too
 
Brizzle said:
Fuck loaning him back down to the championship, when he's already looking decent in the PL. I'd have him straight in the first team squad, depending on how Doak fits in (if at all). What Dibling has in his favour to go with strong on-the-ball ability is a fairly big and athletic frame (at least it looked like that when I've seen him on the TV) which he will likely grow into over the next year or so too
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Hes still in his formative years, so he needs games consistently. A prem club might be an option, but the problem is the clubs who would play him weekly are the "win now" freshly promoted/relegation avoiders. He won't develop rotating in and out our team.

He's only 19, so a year continuing to learn his trade and match experience away from us, still leaves us with a much more rounded 20 year old.
 
I would have thought our first priority with our limited funds would be to buy players who will replace our existing first 11 and not on a squad player who may come good in a few years. I've no idea of our budget but considering we need a LB, striker, CM, RB and possibly a CB I don't see where the money for dibling is coming from.
 
Glen C said:
I would have thought our first priority with our limited funds would be to buy players who will replace our existing first 11 and not on a squad player who may come good in a few years. I've no idea of our budget but considering we need a LB, striker, CM, RB and possibly a CB I don't see where the money for dibling is coming from.
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It needs to be both. Nothing wrong with forward planning
 
Fabio said:
I don't see a problem with buying dibling, loaning him back to Southampton for a year, and then assessing.
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And if we did that, spent say £40m on a player to loan back, wouldn't that affect how much we have in the kitty for the other 4-5 players we need?
 
Frogfish said:
And if we did that, spent say £40m on a player to loan back, wouldn't that affect how much we have in the kitty for the other 4-5 players we need?
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It's spend 40m now or potentially miss out on a 80m+ player. Its happened quite a lot with us.

I appreciate it leaves us short(er) than we'd like in the summer, but what's wrong with thinking long term? We did it last season with mamardashvilli, and that's seen as a potential masterstroke
 
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